Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[rickyvee] 15/7/2017 15:12

neftanikoff - 21/6/17 - 16:26 - Mental note to myself. Should this share ever get to 83/85 again, SEll, 22/6/2017 - 11:33 - riskybus, it was just something you said in a post yesterday about the sooner 85 comes and the moaners can sell the better or something like that, i am one of the moaners/disconteted and i should remember that i am in it to make money, not to fall in love with a share and pretend that nothing matters.

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 15:10

1.R., not that need to explain to you, but i will nevertheless, i need to sell some to buy a car and certainly 85 would suit better than 62, would it not?

2.M., evidence has been provided by better men than me. You miss the point about your postings. I'll reiterate, you post mainly 1 line postings, as descibed in my earlier post. I dont think you are capable of anything else, if you are able to, provide the evidence.

[rickyvee] 15/7/2017 15:00

Neftan, a few weeks ago you said you were waiting for the share price to spike one more time to 85p so you could sell. To me that doesn't sound like a confident long-term holder.

[monkeywench1] 15/7/2017 14:31

Neft I notice you could not give any evidence to the contrary. Currently this is a jam tomorrow stock with no guarantee of success ( i.e. profits ). No amount of ramping or crying will change that.

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 14:15

Elrico, i thought might reply, but really there was no need, as i implied in my post, i thought it was just a coincidence.

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 14:13

talkingtrade
14 Jul '17 - 16:48 - 1613 of 1625 0 0
Have a nice weekend guys.

See u Monday...


YET ANOTHER LIE


uzbek2
14 Jul '17 - 23:42 - 1618 of 1625 4 0
TT i will keep this brief but why turn nasty as the price moves back imto the 60's? There is a multitude of other oppotunities out in the market to make money. If Opti has not delivered to your satisfaction, then why change tack and join the dark side. I remember you always asked awkward questions when the price slided in the past but really, is there a need to turn extreme. Please life is too short (and I genuinely mean that!). If you are not happy with the share, please just move on and use you time productively looking at other opportunities rather than this whole bad cop routine. I understand this is your way of trying to get answers from knowledgable people like Elrico but please do it in an adult, professionalal way, not primary school antics.


COULD NOT EVEN REPLY TO THIS SENSIBLE AND WELL MEANING POST

[pglancy] 15/7/2017 13:57

Excle spreadsheet indicates not a single short position in opti. Liar liar pants on fire.

[elrico] 15/7/2017 13:41

Neft - I am just a humble small PI. I have nothing to do with OPTI or TW. I use ISSUU because it is free to use as a publishing tool. Its not the best but it does the job for my purpose.

[talkingtrade] 15/7/2017 13:31

Bulls are really spooked.They are now attempting to reassure each other that all is well. Any spike and some will sell.That's if it spikes. Even the old TW ramp on HSR failed to jump start the price.Below 60p and the avalanche will begin. Bulls selling, shorters selling, YSF probably selling.With the low liquidity it could get very very ugly. Just look at what happened to DDDD. Some bulls were comparing the difference in valuation between the two companies. Even SOH was doing the same.Now DDDD has collapsed this comparison has stopped.You have been warned!!!!

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 13:21

Bobdown2, you have posted your suspicians as to this new poster JG and rightly so as he has just joined up. Whover he is, he does make some positive points and for good measure i have listed them underneath, so whatever way you look at him, he is not all bad. I, personally agree with some of his concerns and the way things have been handled, with no help from TW. Elrico has dealt with the concerns, as best he able to. We have to remember that Elrico, as far as we are aware, is not part of the OPTI set up or part of the TW set up (although he chooses to use the same sort of system as does TW, by way of his reports), i dont mean anything sinister in that, i am sure it is standard.

About all this and the OPTI strangled share price for 2 whole years, i mean the 60/80 price range and even going to 100, has caused me to think that probably the share price/MC got away from itself and was never justified. With big deals in the offing imminent, hopefully now a higher share price can be all set to be finally justified and more importantly accepted in MARKET TERMS.



1. But Risky, you right about the future and i fully agree with you

2. If they get the deals we are being led to expect, then the future is assured

3. Elrico, firstly i wish to state i believe this is and will be an excellent company

4. I have recently invested a sizeable amount and beleve it will deliver

5. Risky, you are probably correct about the future and i believe you are

6. I expect by the end of September things will be much rosier

7. I expect all whom remain invested to make an excellent return over the next 12 months

8. He mentions that he attended the Vitalfoods event (i bet many on here who hold did not attend)

[talkingtrade] 15/7/2017 13:15

This whole company is centred around one man...SOH.Who else has his alleged expertise???

[elrico] 15/7/2017 11:34

John Galt - Thanks for the reply. I will take your new profile at face value, though I have been caught out before :) I hope you keep posting, but understand most rather not and understand the reasons. It is true I have been more positive than negative, hence why most of my posts are upbeat rather than down. I have been critical in the past, more recently about the way the SBTX IPO has been handled, the lack of clarity surrounding the release of value to OPTI PI. I have even fired of a volley or two to SOH stating as much. I was also critical SOH seemed not to understand the lack of urgency around formulating revenue guidance and again, I fired off a complaint to this effect, which may or may not have resulted in SOH changing his stance and dripping numbers into conversations, hence the £3-6m pa projections from existing deals. However, these won't be official until OPTI has sufficient camouflage in numbers in terms of commercial deals, this protects each commercial deal....NDA. It also has a serious element of visibility in terms of future revenues. SOH feels like he has been held to ransom due to certain expectations on deals being announced...not delivering on a TW's expectations. This is where much of the investor frustration emanates from...IMHO.

The very nature of investing in a company suggests one is more likely look on the rosier side of things. At the risk of coming across as arrogant sod, I appear to have a greater grasp of how OPTI have gone from a start up to be on the cusp of commercial greatness in less than 3 years and have less expectations on instant revenues. Of course I am NOT ALONE in understanding this, we are blessed with a number of posters. Risky, Parob, Someuwin, Shrewdie and myself, (sorry if I missed anyone) have been more vocal and made several attempts to point this out. A couple of articles in the header go into greater detail on this topic. Risky again went to great lengths explain in his post, but you seem to have missed this.

I see your point in relation to Slimfast. What is there to say at this stage? I have not idea. Do we trust SOH when he says nobody has walked? OPTI are in talks with 30+ companies, should they name them all? No of course not and I know you are not suggesting this. SOH has previously stated companies don't like 3rd parties riding on the back of their brand, so I GUESS this may be part of the radio silence. Slimfast have also been re-branding, so I guess this may have had an impact. TATA are a much bigger commercial partner than Slimfast (I assume) but similarly, OPTI have said nothing about TATA since their agreement. It is only recently via TW we have learned TATA have expanded on their original agreement, OPTI have been silent on this, OFFICIALLY. SOH has also stated he must have had c12 face-face meeting with TATA CEO, as well as emails last weekend.

I get it, perceived silence suggests NOTHING is happening. SOH has made several attempts to explain the long winded process involved with dealing with MN. This process cannot be rushed without serious risks.

I also see your point in relation to Tim. However, for me I would rather OPTI focus on getting Christina and Per up-to-speed and concentrate on getting some of these 30+ companies over the commercial line. I expect these deals to start dripping through over the next few weeks. Don't forget, SOH will need to find a suit to sit in the sweetbiotix seat ahead of the IPO, it will be upon us sooner than we think. There is much happening behind the scenes above and beyond commercial negotiations, it all eats into time and SOH have been on his jack for most of this. I wonder how many air miles he has racked up these past 12 months.

[bobdown2] 15/7/2017 10:51

no.....not from a poster who suddenly appears claiming that he has just bought shares in spite of all the problems that he sees. His sole purpose was to caste doubts over riskies superb post. If there was not so much going on with the naughty boys thread then I would take his post at face value....but I do not ...good post risky...well thought out..

[talkingtrades] 15/7/2017 10:46

Just to clarify things. I don't know who this talkingtrade character is.I sold out a while back and have no position or intrest in this stock anymore. I just popped in and see this character has been mistaken for me.I will be contacting ADVFN. To clarify, I have no position here hence have not posted since and will not be.Thanks

[owenmo] 15/7/2017 10:15

Not just you neffamikof; the market seems to be I'm sympathy with John Galt; and I'm not far removed as we await promised meaningful news. Constructive criticism is always welcome, isn't it?

[judijudi] 15/7/2017 10:11

Loaned from ibug on the sbtx thread
Sorry if posted before. About the 3rd page
Think it answers quite clearly most questions investors want answering and directly from the horses mouth

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 10:02

monkeywebnch1, do you not understand, you do not get it, until you can post something of more than 1 line and something of substance instead of the constant "60 before 100" or " jam tomorrow" rubbish, then you will be treated as a fool. Try and post something of substance either way, bull or bear.
Judijdi, applauds his friends but no mention of mrjohngalt....

[judijudi] 15/7/2017 09:52

Some super posts lately
Risky, Elrico
Thank you

[bobdown2] 15/7/2017 09:49

I cannot believe that someone who has recently invested did so after finding so much that did not suite his investment tastes. Most strange..

[monkeywench1] 15/7/2017 09:47

To sum up all the rampers.... They think there is jam tommorrow but they do not know.

[neftanikoff] 15/7/2017 09:28

Thank you your efforts Risky and Elrico, you have both put in a lot of time in trying to educate people into the ways of OPTI.
I applaud and congratulate this new poster mrjohngalt in the sincere way he has posted. I find myself agreeing with his views, hopes and concerns. He put down in 2 postings exactly how i feel about OPTI.
What a contrast between his postings and the ones of a hysterical nature on the other thread and the illitrate postings of the 1 line specialist on this thread.

[mrjohngalt] 15/7/2017 00:13

Elrico, firstly I wish to state I believe this is and will be an excellent company. I have recently invested a sizeable amount and believe it will deliver. However from my recent interest and research, I believe you never, or at least rarely, have a bad word to say about the company. This is also, at least in my opinion, unrealistic. Which of the commercial deals announced prior to this year have led to sales of products. None. There have been no updates on any of them. Why not even mention Slimfast in the latest interview? It was referred to in the year end report as an important contract but not even mentioned in this week's interview. Or that the famous Tim Spector has left the SAG. Not important I guess. Silence is a big part of the problem. Why announce commercial deals and then never comment on progress? I do not wish to replicate arguments from the other thread. But the shareprice is lagging for a reason however strongly you assert your rationale.

From my recent assessment of listening to a year's and longer worth of interviews and reading RNS's over the last few weeks I would have expected more substantial deals to have been announced to date. They have not been announced. And why is the shareprice where it is? Purely because the market is not convinced yet either. However convinced you and Mr. Risky are, the market is mostly always right. You are probably correct about the future, and I believe you are. But until the deals materialise the share price is volatile. I expect by the end of September things will be much rosier.

That is my fresh and, I believe unbiased, opinion from someone who had not heard of Opti before May when I attended the Vitafoods event. Based on my reading of your posts, you will discount my opinion despite your deep and passionate understanding of the Opti business model.Regardless, I expect all whom remain invested to make an excellent return over the next 12 months.

I will not post again.