Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[18081] 18/7/2017 20:19

Tell you what, That Slimbiome doesn't half work. Absolutely tremendous ! I'm that thin now, even the Missus commented 'I hardly see you anymore'

[adnanwolf] 18/7/2017 19:37

Hi ElricoTypically statins will lower LDL cholesterol by 30-50% depending on dose and different statin, Rosuvastatin being the most potent (and most expensive as still licensed) so 35% by LP-LDL is quite an achievement. I understand this is in those with higher starting cholesterol readings. In terms of side effects some 20-25% of people on statins get myalgia, fatigue etc which means in some cases they cannot continue or have to go on a much lower dose than recommended. This is almost invariably the case in those after a heart attack or stroke as the recommended dose is 80mg atorvastatin aiming for and LDL-C below 3.0 which few people can stay on due to the debilitating muscle pains. Some 7-8 million people take statins in the UK and I would be keen to see an LP-LDL product available as a food supplement on prescription. I hope Our CEO will be releasing a UK product asap. Good luck to all LTHAdnan

[parob] 18/7/2017 19:35

Elrico, from the link in your post 25036, it states Lactobact LDL-Control will be:

'AVAILABLE AGAIN FROM WEEK 30'

...which having checked the calendar is this or next week. Both me and my brother can't wait to get our hands on it if I'm honest! We're both in our early 40's, have hereditary high cholesterol and we're on statins already (our dad died of a heart attack at 48). It's a shame the 5% blood pressure reduction isn't mentioned on the HLH site (unless I've missed it?) as I believe that would help to sell the product.

On the HLH site it just states 'Block Price' but you can't yet add to the basket (if I remember rightly I think OneDayRodders tried!)

So any day now the product should be available to buy. I have emailed this company, Pharmasana, who currently sell Lactobact products through their UK website...



...to find out when the new LP-LDL product will be available and will let you all know once I've heard back. I know many will be more comfortable buying from a UK site, rather than navigating a German site even though it has the translate to English button.

[elrico] 18/7/2017 19:10

That's not the logo on HLH packaging. The only visible link is on the side of the box, where it states the license from OptiBiotix Health PLC.

[someuwin] 18/7/2017 17:19

I think this is the LP-LDL logo.

OPTI keep quiet about it though - even on their own website

[elrico] 18/7/2017 17:04

Adnan - I think your name is...Dr in the house. Can I ask you how the following HLH Biopharma LDL Control compares with what you prescibe your patience.

For the dietary treatment of high cholesterol
characteristics

Reduction of the cholesterol value by up to 36.7% increased cholesterol levels naturally do not have any side effects

Lactobact® LDL-Control is able to effectively reduce the cholesterol level in the blood. This results in a positive effect on the entire cardiovascular system, as the risk of arteriosclerosis and associated cardiovascular disease is reduced.

Lactobact® LDL-Control is a natural preparation with no side effects, which often occur in conventional therapies with cholesterol-lowering drugs. Therefore, it is also recommended for long-term use. The clinical study on the active substance in Lactobact® LDL-Control has shown that the LDL cholesterol level is reduced by more than 36.7% within a period of only 3 months by the regular daily intake of 1 capsule of this preparation.

The preparation ensures that more cholesterol is excreted directly through the intestine and does not enter the body's cholesterol circulation. As a result, the concentration of the blood cholesterol and thus also the negative effect on our cardiovascular system is significantly reduced.

Through a cholesterol-conscious diet and regular exercise, you can also positively support this process.
Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Lactobacillus plantarum LP LDL®, hydroxypropylmethylcellulose

(Capsule husk), cornstarch
Age level:
Lactobact® LDL-CONTROL is suitable for all persons from the age of 8.
Recommended dosage:
1 capsule daily with plenty of liquid.
Dosage:
1 capsule contains 4 x 109 CFU
Content:
90

[elrico] 18/7/2017 16:56

2011revelotion on the LSE site came up with an interesting observation with HLH branded cholesterol package. He/she rightly observed there was no obvious LP-LDL branding, thus link back to OPTI; LP-LDL "intel inside." The HLH actually has LDL Control. I had a senior moment thinking LDL was part of the OPTI visible branding. I eventually realised my senior moment.

After making further inquiries, my initial comments regarding the branding LDL is wrong. Realising my foolishness.

Assistance from Anna.
LP-LDL is the trademark and the agreements typically stipulate that it should be displayed on all products as a graphic and as the strain in the same way Intel is used on PC’s. The distributor will then incorporate products containing LP-LDL into their own product ranges which typically have brand recognition in their countries. For example, as reported in the RNS, HLH have a well established and well recognised lactobact product range and have introduced the OPTI product into that range as Lactobact LDL control. This is similar to the way HP, Samsung etc would us the ‘intel inside’ brand in their PC’s.

LP-LDL is a trademark and currently doesn’t have any brand recognition. This takes time to build up and with it, value. By initially working with national pharmacies, OPTI leverage these companies pharmaceutical status and national brand recognition by association and building up the brand without expensive advertising.

[zebbo] 18/7/2017 15:49

Yep, glass half full :-)

[slartybartfaster] 18/7/2017 14:42

20 year was it? Learned nothing! Same price action as when HLH Bio was announced. The market recognizes revenues are in the second year as supply and demand grow. You havent learned a great in those 20 years have you. Why dont you just go short, publish your price and value and let see who folds first. Go on, if youre so confident, put up or shut up.

[loungeact] 18/7/2017 14:37

Does anyone know how long Mickymouse / TalkingTrash has been posting this desperate stuff?

[talkingtrade] 18/7/2017 14:17

Up on 0.5p after RNS. Great..You have been warned

[judijudi] 18/7/2017 12:50

Zebbo,
Only £40k or so traded up to now, so the volume is very small and therefore so is the buying. But mostly buys going through

[zebbo] 18/7/2017 12:13

Nice to see a 0.5p rise on some fair buying. You can bet if they were sells we would be down 2p. Dont we just love the MMs that are blind to value... and buying

Rant over

[slartybartfaster] 18/7/2017 12:06

Double standards as well. Trakm8 don't publish revenues generated from their commercial partners do they! No of course not because it would weaken their hand when the next deal is negotiated. OMG the stupidity is breathtaking.

[1bokke] 18/7/2017 11:55

LoungeAct if you think you've seen it all now wait till he disagrees with himself, the ensuing argument will be comedy gold...

[loungeact] 18/7/2017 11:36

LOL Mickeymouse replying to his other username! I've seen it all now.

[michaelmouse] 18/7/2017 11:17

talkingtrade - The answer to your question is that OptiBiotix could quite easily inform investors what revenues are for the 6 months ended May 17, if nothing else. They have chosen not to do this. Let's guess why shall we?

QS99 suggested that there were some revenue recognition problems as well with their on-going broker discussions?? I cannot comment on this since I cannot verify the veracity of this assertion. If true it would be very worrying, but to repeat this may not be accurate.

They should be able to give guidance on the full year but again they are slow in doing this. You have to question why this is the case?

I think the figures for this year will look ugly, particularly in the context of a £50m market cap. company.

All imho of course.

[silverpete] 18/7/2017 11:10

judijudi - just joined the minnows :-) my buy showing as undefined.

[1bokke] 18/7/2017 11:04

You first...

[talkingtrade] 18/7/2017 11:00

Luke,Answer the question...

[lukead] 18/7/2017 10:59

Hey liar, buzz off , can't even keep that promise Talking tradeTalking tradesMazzstarEtc

[talkingtrade] 18/7/2017 10:23

What are the terms of agreement with Tata, and what revenues is it bringing in??Can you give me revenue figures for one of the JVs signed (Tata, Slimfast, etc).Just a revenue forecast or figure from one of the RNS??How's the Gofigure revenues going??What's the revenue figures from yesterday's RNS??