Opsec Security Share Discussion Threads

[zipstuck] 12/3/2009 07:53

Looks as if the directors were CYA by giving back the cash to OSG the used to buy the shares.

Option money now so hopefully their will a delayed order

[diku] 11/3/2009 08:03

More Director buying...

[diku] 26/2/2009 16:16

I thought that 25,000 was mine...can we just split 50:50...

[harrogate] 26/2/2009 14:54

That 25,000 was me and I know nowt!!

[diku] 26/2/2009 14:44

drip feed of buyers...don't you want to see it go up!...just my hunch...

[harrogate] 26/2/2009 14:42

What makes you say that?

[diku] 26/2/2009 12:09

something going here!...

[harrogate] 20/2/2009 07:41

It is not the Company that bought the shares it was the employee trust - totally seperate. The trust has been buying shares to satisfy future requirements for options under the various long term incentive plans but the shares that they bought recently ( and which they specifically stated in the RNS's were "for onward sale to managment" ) were those that have been sold sold onto management. So there is not issue of the Company needing money since it dodn't received any. I agree it is a bit odd and I do think they have got them a couple of pence cheaper than they would have done ( cheaper than I got my lot last week anyway ) I do see it is as positive

[gnnmartin] 20/2/2009 00:28

My guess is slightly different to harrogate (but I am only guessing). I think that the company bought the shares in order to be able to satisfy share options granted to employees. Now the company needs cash, and has sold on the shares to employees at market price.

So, thoswe who want to carp can complain that the management are getting new shares slightly cheaper than you could buy them. On the other hand, management are happy to put up cash to help the company through a bit of cash flow difficulty.
Nigel Martin

[harrogate] 18/2/2009 15:37

The employees !!

[diku] 17/2/2009 19:07

Well who owns the Employee Trust?...

[harrogate] 17/2/2009 17:27

Please see post 431 - these shares were sold at the price paid for them - Not by the company either but by the Employee Trust. They were bought specifically for onward sale and were declared as such. Why they did it this way i don't know but end result is the same - managment have just spent past part of £400,000 on shares - good enough for me

[diku] 17/2/2009 17:03

If I have understood correctly...the company buys shares at higher levels...it then sells it to the insiders for a lot less...is that not a loss to the company?...orchestrated by the insiders!...

[harrogate] 16/2/2009 18:41

I think these are the recent purchases that the RNS each time has said..." and for onward sale to directors and staff" ... of course on a FIFO basis they probably were the 60p + shares!!

I still think something will happen in 2009 with this company and it will be at double this price at least - the £/$ rate must be having a massive impact to the positive as well

[arthur_lame_stocks] 16/2/2009 18:33

I wouldn't mind so much but the company paid 60p or more for most of those shares if I remember correctly.

[harrogate] 16/2/2009 16:08

At last the chunky director buys.. shame means no discussions ongoing but a decent investment - Had a few more at 19p

BB

[harrogate] 16/12/2008 10:25

Need to see who the seller is I guess - I would think that if we do not see any director buys at this price they must be in talks - of course 40p looks good from here!!

[bearfoot] 16/12/2008 10:08

goodness! the price has collapsed in the face of a series 5 (so far) x 100k trades (£80k). What's going on?

[arthur_lame_stocks] 04/12/2008 07:55

The debt puts me off a bit now. They've expanded but at they expense of their balance sheet. The weak pound must help them, but they've got to stay profitable as they've nothing left to fall back on anymore.

[diku] 19/11/2008 11:30

there again everything is a recovery stock now...when you consider what's going on at RBS, TW., JPR, DSGI..(a snap shot of banks, housebuilder, media, and retailer)...

[harrogate] 19/11/2008 10:20

Hard to call them anything else - the positives are the £/$ rate and the cost reductions but they are now a recovery stock not a growth stock - AGAIN.

I have plenty but I think it will be a haul from here - 2 years

[gnnmartin] 19/11/2008 09:52

OK, we see now why the shares were falling. :-( Disappointing results.
Nigel Martin

[bearfoot] 07/10/2008 19:47

gnmartin...it simply looks like a fall-back with 30K shares (£10k!) being sold when there are no buyers around. I note that the bankers who refinanced the whole business so that they could make their (expensive?) acquisitions are RBOS.....the same RBOS who may very soon be in government hands/control/influence? I wonder if this is a positive, moving forward?

[gnnmartin] 07/10/2008 14:28

Why the drop today? Just the crazy markets? Anyone any ideas?
Nigel Martin
PS Ah, ticked up a little while I was writing that!

[dipso] 01/9/2008 08:33

RNS last week shows Herald Investment increased their holding
Now 12.93%