Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[maxk] 03/9/2020 19:07

WTO will not fly.

Doris will take the knee.

[xxxxxy] 03/9/2020 18:48

Looking at Canada etc non agreements, then obviously there will be no dealing. Part of the EU DNA. Looking at its belly button. For our part obviously and inevitably it is No Deal and we look out Global and embrace the world. As we always have done before Prison EUSSR.No DealWTO

[xxxxxy] 03/9/2020 18:43

jeremy friend3 Sep 2020 5:20PMA well reasoned argument but I doubt it will happen. For whatever reason the EU seems currently devoid of common sense, and seems intent on damaging itself simply to make a point. That point being that, despite Barnier's assurances to the contrary, the EU simply doesn't accept that the UK is now an independent sovereign country outside the EU laws and arrangements.If the EU accepted that the UK was now sovereign it would not harp on about a level playing field, nor would it demand that the CFP remains unchanged. Note well that the EU continues to "demand" and not request. If the EU for a moment accepted that the UK was an equal independent nation it would not "demand". Demanding something of another country is what you do when, like France in 1815, that country has been utterly defeated and humiliated in a war.But what this article does demonstrate is the sheer stupidity of the EU in not negotiating a sensible Canada style trade agreement. As this article points out any level playing field is already sloping severely in the EU's favour. A free trade agreement would protect that position. One would have thought that the EU would want to hang on to a major customer, close by and with a massive trade surplus. WTO terms will leave the EU open to challenges about various subsidies, such as to Airbus, or other companies where there is government shareholding

[jl5006] 03/9/2020 18:30

726
Gecko
not into greens then? - cruciferous essential for diabetes - ur broccoli or calabrese- and ur cabbage essential for ur well being.
Plants available at garden centres - bit late to sow seeds.

[xxxxxy] 03/9/2020 18:24

Sergeant Pepper3 Sep 2020 5:58PMOur relationship with the EU is toxic and although it is tempting to fight dirty I can't see this ending in a win-win trade deal. It is better to walk away now and return when the mood has shifted.Regardless of any FTA the major concern must be the solvency of the eurozone. The Target 2 balances held by the member state's central banks are non performing, they will never be repaid and do not attract any interest, by any accounting convention they have a net realisable value of NIL.The biggest balance, held by Germany, now exceeds €1 trillion and continues to be recorded as a recoverable asset on the Bundesbank's balance sheet. If treated correctly and removed ,the Bundesbank would be insolvent. We should not be rushing to get too close to the EU at the moment.Martin Hainsworth3 Sep 2020 6:10PM@Sergeant PepperAlso, clause 24 would become available on 1/1/21. The EU would welcome this as its saves face and kicks the can down the road for 10 years (they like kicking cans).At the end of 10 years we will be in a different world, most probably with no euro.

[minerve 2] 03/9/2020 16:40

Industry warns of Brexit border chaos
UK logistics groups call for meeting with Gove and Sunak as concerns rise over preparations

UK executives warn of sharp fall in business investment



HA HA HA HA HA HA

Keep going dunderheads! This is great comedy.

UK GOING DOWN THE PLUG HOLE! BORIS THE DORIS AT THE HELM.

[utrickytrees] 03/9/2020 16:31

Or send them to Dundee.

[utrickytrees] 03/9/2020 16:30

Theyee fking illegal immigrants usurping the position of asylum seekers who go through the proper channels. I'd lodge them on prison ships in the most appalling conditions.

[cheshire pete] 03/9/2020 16:25

Talks finished.

No deal.

Move on. End of.

[cheshire pete] 03/9/2020 16:23

Very well put lefrene,

you too Gecko lol.

[chavitravi2] 03/9/2020 16:19

Seems to me a fair bit of rinsing going on. Resisted my top up all week. Think I will still wait till at least tomorrow. Unless last min dive.

[arjun] 03/9/2020 16:15

Have a good evening all

[arjun] 03/9/2020 16:15

And there we go......

[geckotheglorious] 03/9/2020 15:29

Put me in charge Utrick.
I'd have the migrant problem solved within 24 hours.

[lefrene] 03/9/2020 15:21

I see from The Telegraph that Barnier has been telling lies to the Irish, pretending that the Brits won't negotiate when in fact he refuses to negotiate until the Brits have given away their fish. The brazen effrontery of the man would make one gasp if it were not the fact that he's French! ie, create a problem of your own selfish making, and then pretend that it's the other side that's causing all the problems! Interesting that this person concedes that it'sour waters, but somehow chooses to think that the fish in those waters are not ours!

He then goes on to complain that the UK is trying to get an unfair advantage over EU business sectors, as if in the EU those sectors were not being propped up by government subsidy, and the regulations designed to favour French agriculture and German industry.

I suppose Barnier being French is in fact fighting to hang onto tn overpaid cushy job, he has to be seen to be doing his best for French fishermen, even though he knows his stance is untenable.

Would somebody please grow a pair and tell M Barnier that the extension period is now over, because we need to crack on with business. No point whatsoever in dealing with somebody who won't talk to you, until he's got all the cake he wants, and will then only 'allow' the other party to discuss the leftover crumbs..

[optomistic] 03/9/2020 15:15

Mitchy took a photo of one down in Poole, Think it's a Manhatton, very nice. Got it as a screensaver...so I can dream a little.

[mitchy] 03/9/2020 14:30

To much fear about, covid , EU deal, jobless totals,bad debts, possible second wave of claims and now a strong pound. All headwinds for the share price not just for lloy but all the U.K banks.
We need some solid good news not just stimuli news.
I'm potentially buying a new boat in Poole tomorrow but I guess that doesn't count.

[gbh2] 03/9/2020 14:28

Far to east to short this lame nag and control the sp!

[arjun] 03/9/2020 14:15

Back to LLoy, totally disappointing that it fails to hold onto any am gains....it's a real struggle, let alone try for that 1p rise... Hope this changes soon

[arjun] 03/9/2020 14:11

Afternoon AllI absolutely agree with you Mitchy, A BIG shout out to all those connected to NHS, they have been super busy I have 3 doctors as neighbours. They have been putting the hours in Big time. Getting out to clap them on Thursday evening was the very least we could do. Well done to them we are very lucky to have them.

[mitchy] 03/9/2020 12:27

Shout out To NHS staff for not only risking their lives , some of whom gave their lives, but they have obviously got the right treatments now.Death rates are really low even in the face of rising case numbers. Well done you guys...cheers.

[xxxxxy] 03/9/2020 11:40

In today's brief: Barnier's ramps up no-deal rhetoric; Boris weighs in on Japan FTA; UK condemns Novichok attack and US places fresh restrictions on Chinese diplomats.Project Fear 2.0: As we reach crunch time for Brexit talks, Michel Barnier continues to ramp up his rhetoric, this time issuing threats of no-deal unless David Frost and his team give in to Brussels demands. Barnier warned that without "credible guarantees" on subsidies and standards, Brussels will reject a free trade agreement and trigger a no-deal end to the transition period. The EU's chief negotiator pinned all the blame for the deadlock on the British, despite just days ago refusing to make progress on key areas such as fisheries unless the UK budges on other issues. Barnier's blame game comes just before talks resume in London next week but is unlikely to scare Frost into submission as we prepare for another round of hotly contested negotiations.Boris weighs in on Japan FTA: Boris Johnson has spoken to outgoing Japanese PM Shinzo Abe and welcomed the progress that negotiators have made towards a bilateral Free Trade Agreement, telling his counterpart that a free trade deal between their two countries would provide certainty for companies and consumers, Downing Street has confirmed that Japan and the UK are working hard to secure a deal that both sides hope can be in place before the transition period ends on December 31st.UK leads international condemnation of Novichok poisoning: The UK and US are leading the international condemnation of Russia after German hospital tests proved "without doubt" that Alexei Navalny, a popular Putin critic, was poisoned with Novichok. This is the same nerve agent that was used in the poisoning of Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018. Boris Johnson reacted to the news calling it "outrageous" and committed to "working with international partners to ensure justice is done."Record day for migrant crossings: Priti Patel met with Tony Abott yesterday, but she won't be pleased to wake up to the news that a new record number of migrants crossed the channel whilst she hosted the former Australian PM. At least 409 asylum seekers took advantage of the calm seas to reach Britain and numbers are showing no sign of abating with the Home Office's hostile environment plan proving to be ineffective. Mr Abbott knows a thing or two about tackling illegal migration so perhaps the two were sharing notes and Priti is already planning her next move.Sunak warns of tax rises ahead: Rishi Sunak has warned Tory MPs that taxes will have to rise in order to restore public finances and said it was time to be "honest" with the public about the challenges ahead. Having said that, Sunak promised there would not be a "horror show of tax rises with no end in sight". Many Tory MPs continue to push back against the idea arguing that now is not the time to be raising taxes and that the government should instead focus on growing the economy in order to recover from the impact of Covid. US restrictions on Beijing diplomats: The US has imposed further restrictions on Chinese diplomats with Mike Pompeo announcing they will now be required to seek US government permission to engage in a number of routine activities.The top US diplomat said that the "State Department has established a mechanism requiring approval for senior Chinese diplomats in the United States to visit university campuses and to meet with local government officials."Chinese embassy events of more than 50 people and consular posts outside mission properties will also need approval and Chinese government social media accounts will have to be properly identified. GSK start clinical vaccine trails: Clinical trials for the vaccine produced by GSK and Sanofi have begun today with the drug companies hoping to deliver final results in early December. The UK government has ordered 100 million doses of AstraZeneca's potential vaccine and has secured early access to the one produced by GSK and Sanofi. State Aid Impasse: On our site today we have an article by our chairman Shanker Singham. In his article he looks at the EU's state aid demands and how a logical solution can be found in negotiations. You can read the full article here.For the latest news and developments throughout the day, please do follow @GlobalVision_UK on Twitter.Thanks for reading, and enjoy the rest of your day