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[maxk] 14/6/2020 20:25

Dunkirk & Calais are not in Brittany.

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 20:19

“Fine Bob no one would deny the UK Northern France. I've been to Dunkirk & Calais & personally I'd rather have our subs over there cos their more British than u xxxx's.“

Maybe that’s why it’s called Brittany at a guess.

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 20:18

It the underground tunnels Poikka that where The big investment is needed.

[diku] 14/6/2020 20:11

Typical sods law...during lockdown fantastic dry weather April and May...tomorrow more shops are opening and here comes the rain again...

[jl5006] 14/6/2020 19:35

Phps Alex S ?

[jl5006] 14/6/2020 19:18

Of course not
So who will take the step to have Wee b sectioned?

[maxidi] 14/6/2020 19:14

Without the nukes, Scotland would certainly be bust....
I would hate to see Scotland break away from U.K. and so would most Scots IMHO. Why on earth would you really want to?
My brother in law lives there ( married to a Scot)and he tells me there is a large silent majority who would never want to break the union, it makes no sense.

[jl5006] 14/6/2020 19:13

Well
Scotland - no oil revs
dont want to earn from trident
Dont and dont and again dont
But want additional grants.
Off ur rocker weeb
I think the answer is Barnett less 20% - stuff you WB.
Come on careful - the woman should be in a loony - sadly abolished by Scot g brown - or was it TB Bliar

[utrickytrees] 14/6/2020 19:06

Fine Bob no one would deny the UK Northern France. I've been to Dunkirk & Calais & personally I'd rather have our subs over there cos their more British than u xxxx's.

[careful] 14/6/2020 19:05

Unlikely there will be an independent Scotland.
Even if there is they will have to behave if they want a decent trade deal with by far their biggest trading partner, the uk.

And what currency, what head of state, what share of the national debt.

What a mess.

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 19:00

max


It is hard not to conclude that if an independent Scotland will not allow nuclear weapons to remain on its soil this would probably signal the end of the British nuclear deterrent

[maxidi] 14/6/2020 18:59

Milford Haven Wales... get rid of the oil refinery and replace it with nukes!

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 18:59

Devonport is the leading contender to accept the Trident submarines as it would not require starting from scratch. It can still refit two nuclear submarines concurrently and has nuclear-certified berths. However it being run-down as an operating base for submarines and is nothing like was during its 1980s heyday. Devonport has the space but would still require major development match the facilities of Faslane. Studies have concluded that it would just be physically possible to build an armaments depot just across the Tamar by taking over the Anthony House Estate (owned by the National Trust). Unfortunately it would be very close to the 250,000 inhabitants of Plymouth exposed to the (small) risks of missile explosion and possible plutonium release. Although Plymouth is used to having nuclear vessels on its doorstep, local protest against such a plan involving increased risks and the destruction of a National Trust site would be understandable.

Falmouth is another contender, at least for the armaments depot and EHJ, assuming the submarines were based in Devonport. The plan would involve taking over the whole Penarrow peninsular and demolishing the villages of Flushing and Mylor. The depot would not create many long-term jobs and would impact badly on area heavily reliant on tourism and water sports as well as being too close to the 26,000 people living in Falmouth.

Portland The former naval base and air station close to Weymouth have been considered as a possible alternative to Faslane. Since the base closed in the 1990s the site has been redeveloped as the Olympic sailing centre and Osprey Quay leisure centre which would have to be demolished. The only possibility for an armaments depot in the region would be in an area of considerable natural beauty, taking over the Army’s Lulworth tank training ranges with the EHJ located close to the renowned Lulworth Cove beach.

Milford Haven, Wales has a deepwater port with space for both submarine base and armaments depot. However, the port is now an important energy importing and storage site. Daily arrivals of large tankers and stores of oil and LNG make it incompatible with submarine movements, explosives and nuclear materials.

Barrow in Furness. Home to all British submarine construction, the Walney channel that submarines would have to navigate is extremely shallow and only usable by an SSBN a few times in the monthly tidal cycle – an unacceptable tactical limitation. The potential sites for a submarine base or armaments depot are extremely exposed. Although the site is quite remote from other main population centres, it would be too close to the 70,000 inhabitants of the town.

Foreign basing. It has been suggested that the submarines could operate from Kings Bay, Georgia in the United States. Although many of the US Trident facilities are compatible with the UK deterrent, there would be considerable political complications. Even if US Congress approved the idea, sending British nuclear warheads to the United States would be in breach of the Non-Proliferation treaty (NPT). The deterrent would also become considerably less independent of the US than under the current arrangement. An even more unworkable proposal would be to share the French SSBN base at Ile Longue in Brittany. The site is already very compact with little room for expansion. The RN boats and Trident missiles are considerably larger than the French boats and their M51 missiles and incompatible with virtually all the French facilities. Despite growing defence cooperation efforts, the political implications of basing UK nuclear weapons on French soil would probably be even more convoluted than for the US.

It is hard not to conclude that if an independent Scotland will not allow nuclear weapons to remain on its soil this would probably signal the end of the British nuclear deterrent.

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 18:52

Nuclear subs more likely to move to France nowwhere suitable in England .

That would be costly#taking back control.

[jl5006] 14/6/2020 18:51

Want me - sorry ADFN NOT ME

[maxidi] 14/6/2020 18:50

tricky..... lol...

[jl5006] 14/6/2020 18:49

5xy
Sadly we cant.
yes we can at the expense of inflation.
I am not sure the woke community will accept paying £5 for a t shirt or working with machines.
And there has been little if any training in the basic needs.
Do not forget the huge media campaigns agianst single use plastics or indeed plastics.
Who is the biggest culprit - who discard their mac plastics out the window of the car. Want me
There was always a doctrine - now wash your hands - lost in the world of multiculturalism Mr A Bliar
Yet everyone but is blamed.

[utrickytrees] 14/6/2020 18:47

Precisely the problem maxidi, what's left is a cosseted idle bunch of parasites.

[bargainbob] 14/6/2020 18:39

2/3 of fishing in Scottish waters England a scum estate at present, time to cut ties imho.

[maxidi] 14/6/2020 18:38

bargainbob.

This cursed union as you call it has been keeping Scotland from going bust for many years. Handouts from the UK.

O.K. you have oil which is ever decreasing and nobody wants anymore. Whisky which is mainly owned by French business'. Let me see now, Oh! there's porridge.

Nuclear subs can be moved down south too!

What's left? Not a lot....

[xxxxxy] 14/6/2020 18:33

Try to avoid buying anything from/of the EUSSRNo Deal.And we The People can do our own little No Deals. Cumulatively that adds up to a Big No Deal. We can all DEMONSTRATE. The Big Silent Majority can demonstrate too.No Deal