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[alphorn] 04/6/2020 09:26

Cheshire - thank you for giving a straight answer.

max - it was no trick question - here is my post:

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On a more serious note a few years ago there was a big backlash against immigration. Today, if you read the DM public comments it is the 'right thing' to welcome people from HK. How views can change.

Nothing as fickle as people".


You will see - pure focus on immigration per se.

Apart from Cheshire the other responders here have reading issues.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 09:23

the Soros 'influence' is really coming to light in the States, lots of corrupt people taking payments from him, the same is happening over here 100%. Regarding Flynn, there is a final legal decision being waited for in the U.S , has to be settled before the 12th June,Flynn cannot spill the beans until this is settled, he has been exonerated, but not allowed to release information yet. when he is allowed , all these people are right in it !! Obama is bang to rights , and he knows it, the Flynn case is going to spill over to the UK, Christoper Steele is right in it, who was Steele's controller at the time he was involved ? they are in it up to their necks as well. Some Big UK names all tied up in the Flynn saga.....

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 09:21

Aljm,



A P100/P3 filter will filter it - used with Half face mask -Aviva 40/50) and above.


Or a CRBN filter (eg ABEK which also has a P3/P100 filter element such that when the CBRN part runs out, the particle filter still works fine)


I suspect we are arguing at crossed purposes because I agree at a bare minimum only an N95 protects the wearer from everyone else. This is the lowest form of face mask people should be wearing.

A surgical mask protects everyone else from wearer , but the wearer isn't protected from everyone else.

Home made masks might be better than nothing but it really depends how they are made. A scarf, or bit of cloth isn't going to hack it.

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 09:14

Aljm,

All those involved in the bent charging and imprisonment of general Flynn I hope.

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 09:13

Spot on Graham.

As to how many people is enough.

The water shortages alone that are being touted to push hose pipe bans should tell you. Simply too many people making demands on the water supply, and the rest of the infrastructure.

Time to start deporting those who should not be here in addition to foreign criminals, and deterring those seeking to enter illegally every day.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 09:11

from what i understand the virus is @ 2 microns in size, only (95 spec ones are capable of filtering it ), the pores in most of the other masks allow that size particles to pass straight through,

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 09:11

Aljm,

hahaha :)

Just realised as I pressed enter! :)

[aljm] 04/6/2020 09:09

"I've come across a fair few nurses in my time" lol lol, (my warped sense of humour)

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 09:07

Aljm,
Post 10173


"Gecko, Wife is a nurse with over 30 yrs , she is currently working with Covid patients, the ONLY masks they are allowed to use are 95 Spec, care to enlighten me where she, and the specialists are wrong ?"

The fact they are ONLY allowed to wear N95 is neither here nor there.

I've come across a fair few nurses in my time so I'll be placing my faith in a CBRN/PPE specialist over a nurse thank you very much. She will be doing as you has been told - as you confirm.


Which part of what I wrote are you disputing?
That only some masks work,and some, as you claim, don't?

It depends on the mask.
And it depends on whether you are protecting everyone from the wearer, or the wearer from everyone. As I outlined.

Not sure what your problem is.


Ask any CBRN specialist.
They'll be able to confirm what I written.

I have given you the masks in order of effectiveness.

An Aviva 40/50 with a suitable particle filter is far superior to a N95.
They cost about £20-25 for mask, £6 for the filter.

And they are all about protecting the wearer from everyone else. I have one myself.
There is also an exhale valve which exports the wearers breathe unfiltered.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 09:03

hope all these rioters do get it, trouble is they are all young and healthy, they probably wont even realise they have it, it certainly will not kill them, we all had it, wife being a nurse made us high risk, son threw it off in 3 days (11) i threw it off in @ 5 days, it was nothing, BUT to the wrong person it could be far more of a problem.

[dr biotech] 04/6/2020 09:00

The Bank of England will gather more information from banks on their likely losses on loans due to the pandemic, its deputy governor Sam Woods said on Thursday.
The BoE's Prudential Regulation Authority will gather the data ahead of banks' second quarter earnings to compare the timing and amount of losses with those it modelled last month.
"This information will enable us to identify any significant outliers and to further refine our estimates for future capital exercises," Woods said in a letter to banks.
Britain is facing its worst recession in 300 years due to a national lockdown that has shuttered businesses and furloughed millions of employees, with losses on loans to companies set to rocket.
The Bank estimated last month that loan losses at banks could reach 80 billion pounds by the end of 2021, but that lenders are robust enough to maintain the flow of credit to companies and households.
The BoE has already issued guidance on how banks can take into account government relief measures such as loans and repayment holidays on mortgages when calculating expected losses and how much capital should be set aside to cover them.
On Thursday, Woods set out further guidance on how banks should assess the capital and accounting treatment for the three-month holiday on mortagage payments that end this month in some cases ahead of second quarter earnings statements.
(Reporting by Huw Jones; Editing by Andrew Heavens) ((huw.jones

[ball deap] 04/6/2020 08:59

Covid19 is a hoax. More riots, police with no masks, protesters no mask and we're in lockdown.It's a absolute fake.https://www.rt.com/uk/490687-london-protest-downing-street/

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 08:58

Wllmerk,

Perhaps they don't care if all these disruptive Bame's get infected???
Highly unlikely they are also taking Vitamin D supplements

Cull the herd of trouble makers so to speak.

Surely Govts wouldnt be that cynical.

Such protesters are also likely to be society's spongers, layabouts, and low productivity workers so wont be missed either.

Always method to the madness.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 08:57

Chav, i agree, but they really dont move it enough to make trading it worthwhile for me....

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 08:56

Dr Biotech
post 10165

Yes agree, I've yet to see much evidence from Mr Elbe on anything.

Disagree on the mask front though.

Once again it depends on the mask you wear.
That is also why people wear goggles/those face shields because everyone realises how often we touch our faces in an average day.

Some masks filter the virus, some filter what the wearer exhales so your claim they're not so good from stopping others infecting you doesn't hold. As the Dr Campbell video I linked yesterday also illustrates.

Wearing a simple Surgical mask reduces the rate of infection by a considerable amount. Wearing a proper half face mask with a filter isnt even better and offers more protection from infection.


See below for indisputable facts

a) Surgical masks, the kind you see Doctors/Nurses/Dentists wearing protect everyone from the USER. Makes sense as when youve someone operating on you, and theyve cut you open, you dont want them coughing/sneezing or whatever and passing their germs to you.

b) N95 masks protect the USER from everyone around you.

c) Aviva 40/Aviva 50 style half face mask (requiring filters) protect the USER,but not those around you as the wearer exhales through a filter port...Inhaling goes via a filter. Exhaling doesnt. So if you infected, you will breathe out your infection.

d) Any Army surplus mask, even an old Avon S6 will work AS LONG AS it has a modern fully working particle filter or above added to it.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 08:56

Gecko, Wife is a nurse with over 30 yrs , she is currently working with Covid patients, the ONLY masks they are allowed to use are 95 Spec, care to enlighten me where she, and the specialists are wrong ?

[chavitravi2] 04/6/2020 08:53

Mm's day today I reckon. Manipulation up manipulation down. Lovely jubbly.

[geckotheglorious] 04/6/2020 08:52

Aljm,
Post 10164

"only a very specific mask works, N95/F95 spec, the rest do not. these people using home made masks or non spec ones, are actually putting themselves in more risk as they have confidence in something that will not stop transfer"

Not strictly true in the case of the former you open with, but spot on regarding home made masks.

a) Surgical masks, the kind you see Doctors/Nurses/Dentists wearing protect everyone from the USER. Makes sense as when youve someone operating on you, and theyve cut you open, you dont want them coughing/sneezing or whatever and passing their germs to you.

b) N95 masks protect the USER from everyone around you.

c) Aviva 40/Aviva 50 style half face mask (requiring filters) protect the USER,but not those around you as the wearer exhales through a filter port...Inhaling goes via a filter. Exhaling doesnt. So if you infected, you will breathe out your infection.

d) Any Army surplus mask, even an old Avon S6 will work AS LONG AS it has a modern fully working particle filter or above added to it.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 08:35

rumours going around that some high level arrests are coming in the U.S very soon, possibly next few days.

[mikemichael2] 04/6/2020 08:31

We need to bring back a medieval torture chamber for that German guy who MIGHT have taken Madelane, job done.

[aljm] 04/6/2020 08:27

JL, Blair is STILL not safe from arrest, IMO the clock is ticking......

[diku] 04/6/2020 08:25

It is on auto...



Take back control?

[grahamite2] 04/6/2020 08:23

How the UK’s fishing fleet has been filleted by the EU

I don't blame the EU for this, any more than I blame immigrants for coming here in search of a better life. In both cases they are just pursuing their own best interests, as any of us would do.

The people to blame are the UK politicians and officials who allowed these things. They should be strung up.

[wllmherk] 04/6/2020 07:50

....especially when one considers the furore generated by one mans movements last week?

Can't wait to see all the protesters being grilled by the media for their actions and putting others at risk!!!!


wllm

[wllmherk] 04/6/2020 07:48

COVID-19 is not a hoax, but, nor is it a deadly disease. If it was so deadly why would the Police allow those apparently most at risk, namely BAME's, to gather in there thousands on London's streets to protest?

wllm