Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:59

We now have a new name for Yoda's stunt double: Un-savvy Javvy!

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:56

"Businesses need to adjust."

"What adjustments should they make?"

"We don't know yet."

"When should they make them?"

"Now."

ROFLMAO!

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:52

If all countries in the EU accept the standards why can't a British person?

Are we gods that demand to be different?

It seems acceptable to most but not to the few? I wonder why?

The imperialist pedestal of old still exists but it is only imaginary in the heads of nutters.

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:49

grahamite2 19 Jan '20 - 12:38 - 290013 of 290014

"Those companies exporting to the EU will need to continue to follow EU regulations but those that don't will not. What's difficult to understand about that, Minerve?"


Great. Wonderful.

What benefit?

[patientcapital] 19/1/2020 12:43

Regardless of political pronunciations there is no case to be made for any UK manufacturer diverging from international standards if it results in loss on market. Common sense.

[grahamite2] 19/1/2020 12:38

Those companies exporting to the EU will need to continue to follow EU regulations but those that don't will not. What's difficult to understand about that, Minerve? It will be no different from the special regulations for car exports to the US. No reason to hamstring producers selling to the domestic market or other overseas markets.

90% of the problems the remoaner fanatics come up with prove, on examination, to be illusory.

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:37

Patient

If the EU says their cars have to be made this way that is it! It is an EU rule and you can patch it up however you like to the chimps it still remains an EU rule! LOL

[alphorn] 19/1/2020 12:37

jacko #003. We are on different sides of the coin on this topic.

It is not letting the competition set the rules - rather selling to your customer what they require.

Eg. No prescription drugs may be sold into a market unless they comply and are accepted by that market's rules - no matter what the seller might say.

I agree with your sentiments about going into a negotiation btw. It is just that someone at Javid's level should be smarter. I expect that he must be candidate to go.

[maxk] 19/1/2020 12:37

PatientCapital19 Jan '20 - 12:30 - 290006 Nail on the head!

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:35

Jacko07

Something is very simple, and I am sure as the great second-hand car dealer you once were (as alleged by yourself), you will understand that if you WANT TO SELL product to your largest customer then you'll need to acquiesce to their request or kiss goodbye to a living!

The fact that you see yourself as sovereign is irrelevant if you heavily depend on trade with other countries. As I have said many times before: in a world full of globalisation and world trade true sovereignty is a pipe dream. A government could exercise sovereignty - at the expense of trade - but soon will find itself failing when society realises the cost. ;)

I made millions because from an early age I understood who was paying for the food at my family's table! :)

[jacko07] 19/1/2020 12:34

Javid the Bus driver's son 1

Minerve the Remainer plonker 0

[patientcapital] 19/1/2020 12:30

"Same international standards". By definition not "EU" standards. They may very well be identical but that isn't the point.

[utrickytrees] 19/1/2020 12:29

Several on here may have forgotten Javid was the former Business secretary cant think of anyone better placed to have a valid opinion on EU alignment personally, as for cultural abandonment, the cabinet is further strengthened by the likes of Patel & Cleverley who underline the sort of diversity expected of a first class modern democracy.

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:28

“Japan sells cars to the EU but they don’t follow EU rules.”
Sajid Havid is lying. The FT team knows he is lying. Javid knows he's lying.

Here are the details of the Japan EU trade agreement

"Motor vehicles – the agreement ensures that both Japan and the EU will fully align themselves to the same international standards on product safety and the protection of the environment, meaning that European cars will be subject to the same requirements in the EU and Japan, and will not need to be tested and certified again when exported to Japan. With Japan now committing itself to international car standards, EU exports of cars to Japan will become significantly simpler. This also paves the way for even stronger cooperation between the EU and Japan in international standard setting fora."

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:23

8 out of 10 Toyota cars sold in Europe are built in European factories following EU standards, I will let the chimps assess the stupidity of that claim from the Chancellor that Japan sells cars in EU and don’t follow the standards. No alignment with EU, no access to EU market, UK’s largest neighbouring market. The Brexit boys need to stop telling lies, Brexit will come at a huge economic cost.

[maxk] 19/1/2020 12:22

More Mintripe!

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:22

'Mr Javid said: “Japan sells cars to the EU but they don’t follow EU rules.”'

Yes they do!

@FT: when a politician tells you something factually incorrect, you have a journalistic responsibility to point it out and clarify if they're ignorant or lying, and then get them to explain themselves. Don't just sit there and parrot their line.

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:17

Shower trays and pork pies have a rosy future, I heard. :)

[minerve 2] 19/1/2020 12:06

"The ruling passion of MPs is hatred"

Just like Brexiters then, eh? LOL

Match made in Heaven, or Hell?