Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[fatnacker] 07/7/2019 15:45

alphorn, its wire fraud, re read my post.

[jacko07] 07/7/2019 15:43

bargain..hate is bad for you, it consumes you, eats away at you, please seek help.

I know a bloke who hates the English, hates the Tories, hates having an inferiority complex, hates being in a tartan minority, hates where he lives, hates his life.

You know this bloke Bob, you know him really well!!

ROFLMAO

[alphorn] 07/7/2019 14:59

fatnacker - I suggest that you re-read my post.

To have inside information does not mean that you work for the company.

[bargainbob] 07/7/2019 14:56

Jacko,

"Young people in universities are being brainwashed to hate the older generation, not only the youth but people in their middle age"

Do not take it personally Jacko small c but age is not in the equation with reasons to hate you.:-)

[bargainbob] 07/7/2019 14:51

Diku ,

I have good news for you.

"Give me a cabinet job...give me a cabinet job...I support you...I support you..."

I was at Ikea today looking for bedroom furniture. Feel free to come up North and help me build the cabinets .

[fatnacker] 07/7/2019 14:30

well it was worth waiting for alphorn, just for the comedic aspect, but seriously, a large investor contacted by an insider who's selling his shares shortly before a product pipeline announcement and he still bought the shares? if it were true it would be wire fraud, but seriously did you not even consider my example as being the most likely scenario or were you just desperate to give me "lesson" number two? lmfao

"Alphorn7 Jul '19 - 13:33 - 264005 of 264009
0 1 0
fatnacker - let us take a very simple example.
I am a large shareholder in Company X. I have inside information that very large losses are about to be announced because of a product failure. The shares are currently £15 each. Fatnacker is a large investor and I contact him to sell my shares. Shortly the results are announced and the shares fall to £8. That £7 loss per share is borne by Fatnacker.
Criminal.


There are more subtle ways of insider trading but there is a simple example."

[jacksonse] 07/7/2019 14:22

Thanks Ariane.
John

[jacko07] 07/7/2019 14:17

Just got back from Farmers Market and watched Marr interviewing McDonnell on BBC recording. I would like to ask anybody on this board if they could ever vote for Corbyn and McDonnell. McDonnell evaded answering his buddy the BBC's £500k a year far lefty Andrew Marr and his question on inheritance tax at 40% on anything over £125k, yep £125k which is half the price of a very average house. What sort of people want to halt the aspiration of anybody who strives to build some wealth only to have it seized in taxes by a communist government. I really believe from reading the CV's of Corbyn and McDonnell that they are evil, these two IRA and Hamas sympathisers, McDonnell once said his dream was that Thatcher should have been assassinated instead of surviving the Brighton bomb, tells you what sort of person he is.

If these Marxists ever gain power I wonder how long it will be before we become another Greece or Venezuela. I may be old school, a baby boomer, a Conservative with a small 'c' voter, but I fear it could happen. Young people in universities are being brainwashed to hate the older generation, not only the youth but people in their middle age, take the Champagne Socialist Minerve who describes the older generation as the worst generation in history, yes Minerve actually believes that we had all given to us and the 70s were a paradise for us. I remember the late 70s, it was a horrible time for everyone and Wilson and Callaghan weren't half the far left politician Corbyn and McDonnell are.

The 70s and the strikes which became the norm, three day weeks, power cuts, uncollected rubbish, not being able to leave the country with more than £50, Dennis Healey going begging to IMF to stave off bankruptcy. They try and have us believe that the decimation of the car industry, steel and coal was down to Thatcher and not the real culprits the infiltration of the far left into the trade unions. The names 'Red Robbo' and Arthur Scargill spring to mind as two commies who would fit well into Corbyn's Labour party of today.

It is obvious that Corbyn & McDonnell supporters want those days back.


You couldn't make it up.

[gbh2] 07/7/2019 14:16

"an economically-devastating no-deal EU"

Clearly written by a Remoaner possibly with his snout already in the EU tax trough?

[diku] 07/7/2019 14:04

Give me a cabinet job...give me a cabinet job...I support you...I support you...



Sajid Javid is backing Boris Johnson as the next prime minister, it has been revealed.

The home secretary said Mr Johnson is “better placed” than Jeremy Hunt to “deliver what we need to do at this critical time”.

The former Tory leadership hopeful is now the most senior cabinet member to endorse Mr Johnson.

He is rumoured to be positioning himself as the frontrunner’s future chancellor.

[ariane] 07/7/2019 14:02

jacksonse
7 Jul '19 - 13:54 - 3710 of 3710
0 0 0
Results out in a couple of weeks. To buy or not to buy. Price does looks attractive but the above article casts some doubts? Spin a coin?
John

responded on other thread

[ariane] 07/7/2019 13:56

JULY/31/19 Interim 2019 Earnings Release


Jack not for me to give advice

i would try being patient and make a decision whether to buy after the results and if and when theres a strong
upward trend

the bank sector seems to be facing headwinds at present imo

[jacksonse] 07/7/2019 13:54

Results out in a couple of weeks. To buy or not to buy. Price does looks attractive but the above article casts some doubts? Spin a coin?
John

[jacksonse] 07/7/2019 13:50

On the other thread it say results out on a couple of weeks. To buy or not to buy. Price looks attractive? Spin a coin?
John

[jacksonse] 07/7/2019 13:44

Like those examples. Ex-car dealer posters could relate to insider trading by knowingly selling a 'cut and shut' car. The only one of those that I have seen was a Golf GTI sold by a main dealership in California. The body was not straight to my eye and when I removed some of the interior finish discovered parts of another body welded directly onto a crashed original body. The dealership were mortified when shown the stripped body.
John

[alphorn] 07/7/2019 13:36

Most people just focus on profiting from insider trading - there are probably many more cases of the reverse - avoiding losses.

Use leverage and the numbers balloon.

[alphorn] 07/7/2019 13:33

fatnacker - let us take a very simple example.
I am a large shareholder in Company X. I have inside information that very large losses are about to be announced because of a product failure. The shares are currently £15 each. Fatnacker is a large investor and I contact him to sell my shares. Shortly the results are announced and the shares fall to £8. That £7 loss per share is borne by Fatnacker.
Criminal.


There are more subtle ways of insider trading but there is a simple example.

[grahamite2] 07/7/2019 13:11

I agree with both points, Max. But step one is to indicate it's something he'd like to do - step two is working out exactly how to finance it.

And the NIC threshold is an equally good idea. What's the point of raising the tax threshold to its present impressive level if poor people are still paying income tax under another name i.e. NI?

[maxk] 07/7/2019 13:07

Cutting VAT is a great idea, gives everyone a slice of the cake, just not sure how it can be done.

[xxxxxy] 07/7/2019 13:06

Agricola
Posted July 7, 2019 at 6:27 am | Permalink

Absolutely correct. No deal may be less desirable than a FTA under negotiation and an interim agreed recourse to Art 24 of GATT to retain stability, but it must remain the sanction of last resort.

Those who oppose no deal are really intent on blocking our departure from the EU. They are inheritantly dishonest and in denial of the referendum result, their own party manifesto, and their own weasel words.

It also answers the EU’s criticism that they never understood what the UK wanted. It puts the ball firmly in the EU’s court.

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BR
Posted July 7, 2019 at 6:46 am | Permalink
Agreed.

Hopefully Boris and his cabinet will start making the case for WTO etc.

One thing he may need to do quickly is to replace CCHQ team with someone who changes the rules on de-selection to get those darned remoaners such as Grieve and co out before they can plot a coup. Or remove the whip from them.

A coup attempt may even happen on 24/25th this month before the recess to circumvent proroguing Parliament (whereby they use a VoNC and the ensuing 14 days to install an ‘interim’; PM and try to push through all kinds of nonsense).

There really does need to be a way to pull an MP when they go rogue – needing to be sentenced to 12 months should not be the only reason. And sliding off to another party or to become an independent should not provide cover either – change of party should automatically trigger a by-election.

[grahamite2] 07/7/2019 13:00

Mr Johnson also stated: "I think the Conservative Party needs to understand the moral case for conservatism again, and to speak powerfully about why we think that supporting business and supporting wealth creation and supporting home ownership is actually a morally good thing, because actually, what you'll produce is a society where people have a stake in it and where people are engaged in wealth creation [which is] vital for everybody."

He is also talking about cutting taxes so as to help the poorest i.e. cutting VAT and raising the NIC limit in line with the personal allowance for tax. Surely these are things everyone should welcome?

[minerve 2] 07/7/2019 12:45

Very easy for Boris to say. Not everyone has a corporate ladder tart to go and live with when they lose their job.

[maxk] 07/7/2019 12:35

Boris Johnson 'not bluffing' about quitting EU on 31 October with no deal
Tory favourite also hits out at Theresa May for ‘computer says no’ approach to government

Nadeem Badshah

Sun 7 Jul 2019 10.18 BST Last modified on Sun 7 Jul 2019 10.19 BST





Asked if his commitment to the 31 October deadline was a bluff, Johnson told the Sunday Telegraph: “No … honestly. Come on. We’ve got to show a bit more gumption about this.”

He added: “We were pretty much ready on March 29. And we will be ready by October 31. And it’s vital that our partners see that. They have to look deep into our eyes and think ‘my God, these Brits actually are going to leave. And they’re going to leave on those terms’.