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[stonedyou] 30/12/2018 14:12

Anybody heard any complaints from Mandelson or Kinnock.....




10.The Mandelson Pension Clause: The UK must promise never to tax former EU

officials based here such as Peter Mandelson or Neil Kinnock on their E.U.

pensions, or tax any current Brussels bureaucrats on their salaries. The EU and

its employees are to be immune to our tax laws. (Article 104)


11.Furthermore, the UK agrees not to prosecute EU employees who are, or who might

be deemed in future, criminals (Art.101)

[keyno] 30/12/2018 12:03

Sounds a bit partisan to me. And wrong.

'Asked if, like some leading investors, he anticipated another global financial crisis, he said: "I actually don't think so.

"The financial system in the United States is safe for the first time in the 30 years I've analysed it."'
Steve Eisman

[1carus] 30/12/2018 11:59

Although I am sure there are some unsavoury types illegally entering our shores, but at this time of year especially we should show our compassion for people who are being clearly exploited. Action required is to prevent individual human tragedy here. The numbers, even if in the hundreds, are not significant to the overall
immigration problem. Authorities on both sides of the channel should do more.

[minerve] 30/12/2018 11:37

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And Brexit has now created a rush of immigrants onto our shores!

Nice one chimps! ROFLMAO!

[poikka] 30/12/2018 11:08

"Supported by OSINT" - sounds formidable, but doesn't add up: if it comes from publicly available sources, you might think that we'd have heard of it before. Such a plan would involve too many people to remain hidden. What a load of borrocks.

"sanitised briefing" "It is rated as “high level of confidence" - you been reading Scottish spy fiction again, Bob?

Not even a good attempt. Give up. Open your eyes and see the light.

[maxk] 30/12/2018 10:37

"who" thinks this bob?

[bargainbob] 30/12/2018 10:12

Think this is what they are upto.

START – “Right, I really don’t care whether people listen to this Brexit thread. It’s just here. This is a sanitised briefing. It is rated as “high level of confidence” and supported by OSINT, meaning it comes from multiple, reliable sources and is supported by open source information.

Numerous sources have confirmed the British government is deliberately aiming for a no deal Brexit outcome in order to take advantage of extended powers available to them under the scenario – including civil contingencies and so-called Henry VIII.

The Chequers plan is a ploy designed to engage the EU in distraction from the desired British outcome and create a false narrative at home in the UK that the EU are responsible.

Sources claim emergency legislation is being prepared for January next year (2019) when the Withdrawal Act no deal deadlines pass – this would be 29/01 and the civil contingencies secretariat have been convened as per leaked Hammond notes recently, adding credibility.

On Ireland: The British government hopes the EU will be forced to move first and install a hard border in Ireland in order to avoid blame itself for a situation it has created. Further sources claim the data harvested during Repeal 8th will be used in some “unity” campaigns.

The British government has progressed trade talks with the US to the point of potential emergency supply, moving substantially beyond informal discussions – though the Trump administration should not be taken at its word, a degree of reliance on this has been factored in UK side.

The government intends to create a tax haven on the EU’s doorstep to exploit financial service deregulation. This speaks for itself.

The British government aims to prevent France and other EU countries from properly preparing for no deal by continuing to falsely engage in the negotiations in bad faith, keeping the EU27 from moving from early stage plans to contingency measures as long as possible.

The British government hopes this will create a ripple effect of impact so it can later pursue a “Europe in chaos” narrative of disinformation and exploit the situation. In short hoping to spread the load of no deal impact, particularly into France due to geographical impact.

The British government hopes this collateral damage will add to planned disruption around the EU election processes next spring and they will use dissident relationships to further this – likely to include Orban.

The British are aware that contingency planning in France has not yet reached operational unit level even in the GIGN because the general French presumption is that the British government is genuinely engaged in good faith, which they are not.” – ENDS

[poikka] 30/12/2018 09:42

Bob, your team has a vote or two in our Parliament, so I wouldn't fret too much.

[action] 30/12/2018 09:36

As they said this a deal take it or leave it. So Leave it now. GETOUT while you have chance.

[poikka] 30/12/2018 09:34

Claude - "“My appeal is this: get your act together and then tell us what it is you want,” Mr Juncker told German newspaper Welt am Sonntag."

And they'll fudge and basically ignore anything we put forward, as they already have. Remember Cammie's trip to Brussels.

Claude's a fraud.

[diku] 30/12/2018 08:56

From the media...a clean cut Brexit and save £39bln!!...then wait for Juncker response...



Jean-Claude Juncker has told the UK to “get your act together” before making demands on Brussels to amend a Brexit divorce agreement weeks before it is due to be voted on by the House of Commons.

In a sign of the EU’s impatience with the UK government’s insistence that it can extract concessions from Brussels before the vote, the president of the European Commission said it was “entirely unreasonable for parts of the British public to believe that it is for the EU alone to propose a solution for all future British problems”.

“My appeal is this: get your act together and then tell us what it is you want,” Mr Juncker told German newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

[bargainbob] 30/12/2018 04:45

Lloyds related enough of playing with the Stoned one.

[bargainbob] 30/12/2018 04:24

Stonedyou it was a quote on Politico not wiki , to show you how wrong your adding up was so wrong.Rather than admit it you kept digging holes for yourself.
You now only not only have a issue with WW2 veterans , you have an issue with a Americian spelling .

Dear dear showing your true colours today or is it color.

hxxps://www.politico.eu/article/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-independence-vote-brexit-clarity/

[diku] 29/12/2018 22:57

Looking at that picture in post 241098...Beckham got a lot of catching up to do!!...

[bargainbob] 29/12/2018 21:55

Stonedyou
Well as you had issues adding up this morning , maybe you should use it in the future.
"UtyInv : Stonedyou

You had better get your history right and not from Wiki.....

Tell one instance.....especially about WW2...When did Scotland prop up England!"

I spell it favour , no need for capitals . Did you get A Level English too.?

Up in Scotland it was Highers in my day.

[stonedyou] 29/12/2018 21:13

We should not guarantee the "HATED EU" citizens rights if not reciprocated.....




'Why are WE the baddies?' Tory blasts EU's FAILURE to secure UK citizen rights post-Brexit

TORY chiefs have condemned the EU for making the Conservative Party look like “baddies” for failing to secure UK citizens rights after Brexit.





James Cleverly took to Twitter to remind followers the UK Government has worked

endlessly to secure residency rights of Europeans living in Britain before

pointing out that, despite the remaining EU member states not doing the same for

British expats, the Tories are perceived as “the baddies”. He said: “The UK has

unilaterally guaranteed the residency rights of people from the EU who have chosen

to call this home. “The EU27 have not reciprocated for UK nationals living in the

EU, yet somehow we’re the baddies.” The MP for Braintree and Conservative Party

deputy chairman’s remarks drew in a flurry of replies from his followers.