Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[xxxxxy] 07/3/2020 13:47

530. You sound ridiculous.

[careful] 07/3/2020 13:44

We warned you Brexiteers that the supermarket shelves would be empty.
And it has happened already.

project fear becomes project fact.

[xxxxxy] 07/3/2020 13:43

No fish for the Frogs. No fish for the Danes.No fish for the EUSSR.No Deal

[xxxxxy] 07/3/2020 13:38

British fish for the Great British People.No Deal

[xxxxxy] 07/3/2020 13:37

EXCLUSIVE: The EU loses Round One of Brexit Trade NegotiationsBarnier banged to (human) rights in shocking expose of EU hypocrisy?© Brexit Facts4EU.OrgBarnier lectures UK on European Convention on Human Rights, forgetting EU hasn't signed itPart One of a Two-Part Brexit Facts4EU.Org Special ReportPart Two follows tomorrow (Sun 08 Mar 2020). Not to be missed!The EU has demanded that any trade deal with the UK be contingent on the UK making a commitment in the new trade treaty to abide by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).On Thursday, the EU's Chief Negotiator Monsieur Michel Barnier got very exercised about this subject in his long statement in French following the first round of UK-EU trade talks this week.There's just one 'leetle, eenzy-weenzy' problem for Monsieur BarnierBREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYThe European Convention on Human RightsThe UK signed the ECHR in 1950 and ratified it the following yearThe EU has still not signed nor ratified it?Above: Details of Council of Europe Treaty No.005 - Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, commonly known as "The European Convention on Human Rights"[Source: © Council of Europe, as at Sat 07 Mar 2020.] - click to enlargeBarnier on "EUman rights"Below is an excerpt from the statement given by the EU's Chief Negotiator to the world's press on Thursday.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYMichel Barnier's summary of first round trade negotiations?© EU Commission"Ambitious cooperation requires commitments on both sides with regard to the fundamental rights of individuals."However, the United Kingdom has informed us that it does not want to make a formal commitment to continue to apply the European Convention on Human Rights. Nor does it want the European Court of Justice to play its full role in the interpretation of European law - and this is particularly serious when it comes to the fundamental rights of individuals."If this position is maintained, this would have an immediate and concrete effect on the ambition of our cooperation, which will remain possible on the basis of international conventions, but which cannot be as ambitious as we wish."- Michel Barnier, EU Chief Negotiator – Statement after first round talks, Brussels, 05 Mar 2020Is it really true the EU has not signed nor ratified the "European Convention on Human Rights"?Bizarrely, yes it's true.

[alphorn] 07/3/2020 12:57

Lighten up Poika - you are moaning on the BP thread this morning. You often have good stuff to read elsewhere. The natives on here would have withdrawal symptoms without the windups. Over to you now Minerve. ;))


edit: you probably are the most knowledgeable here on some international sea laws. (eg a boat - mine in the SofF has both German and GB registrations - which takes priority).

[poikka] 07/3/2020 12:51

Hoho, side-splitting, Alps, side-splitting. Jeezus, where's the quality?

[alphorn] 07/3/2020 12:47

Need that 200 mile limit to trawl in the Seine. Lol

[k38] 07/3/2020 12:47

No rush to buy...." WHO warns Coronavirus may spread beyond summer "

[poikka] 07/3/2020 12:44

Alps - "The three 'cod wars' should not be forgotten with the UK losing all three. (Each of the disputes ended with an Icelandic victory. The Third Cod War concluded in 1976, with a highly favourable agreement for Iceland)."

Slight difference this time, Alps, we're protecting our waters.

[maxk] 07/3/2020 12:36

In the eyes of woke students, even the most moderate Tory is a terrifying extremist



MICHAEL DEACON
PARLIAMENTARY SKETCHWRITER
Follow Michael Deacon7 MARCH 2020 • 7:00AM







Personally, I think it’s time we started no-platforming students. Increasingly I find their views distressing, offensive and, worst of all, different from mine. And these days, apparently, that’s reason enough.

I don’t mean all students. Obviously we have a responsibility to protect the marginalised and under-represented groups among them, such as the sane and the intelligent. Left-wing students at Oxford, however, should all be cancelled at the earliest opportunity.

Take the members of the UNWomen Oxford UK Society. On Thursday evening they no-platformed Amber Rudd, the former Conservative minister – precisely half an hour before she was due to address them on the subject of women’s rights.




Paywall:

[alphorn] 07/3/2020 12:34

The three 'cod wars' should not be forgotten with the UK losing all three. (Each of the disputes ended with an Icelandic victory. The Third Cod War concluded in 1976, with a highly favourable agreement for Iceland).

Nothing is a foregone conclusion but stoned (the Ken Dodd of the thread) continue to rattle your feather.

[minerve 2] 07/3/2020 12:28

Jacko07

Your view on Capita has no rationale.

I'm in Capita and building a position. I know the risks. It doesn't worry me.

[careful] 07/3/2020 12:04

The most recent crashes of 2003/2009 have been about 45%.

We should be patient as we are only about 15% down.

Things could get much worse, this feels dangerous.

[jacko07] 07/3/2020 11:42

Minnie..I told you to get out of Capita, I hope you did!!

[jacko07] 07/3/2020 11:41

I was looking at Lloyds and wondering whether it may be time to get back in sometime soon. What was a total loser was their share buyback, billions spent on shares that have dropped 30% in value.

Same goes for the USA, Trump's misguided tax cuts for Corporate America has worked out a big loser for the majority of Corporations who operated huge share buybacks.

I am of the opinion that we are in a period that we will look back on with Warren Buffett's mantra..“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.” Time and again, the value investor has used this philosophy to pounce on opportunities.

I have stuck with Warren on many occassions and will be heeding the above.

Good Luck to all the Sage's on this thread.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 07/3/2020 11:20

"k386 Mar '20 - 21:59 - 295503 of 295509
Is BBC getting worse or is my imagination..."


Not your imagination at all..

[gotnorolex] 07/3/2020 09:15

maxk "Civit cat and chips. Any takers?"
It'll cost you £70 for cup of kopi luwak (coffee beans marinated in civit poo) in Londond's China Town or twice as much in Kensington!

[xxxxxy] 07/3/2020 08:06

UK/EU talks
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: MARCH 7, 2020
I held a conference in Westminster yesterday on the EU talks.

I was able to praise the government for its opening approach. They are right to insist on talking about all issues in a series of simultaneous working groups. They are right to say we want a Free Trade Agreement, not a comprehensive Partnership Agreement or Association Agreement designed for countries seeking to converge and join the EU. They are right to stress there is no read across from say fishing to free trade. Each has to be settled on its own merits.

The EU still seems to think the UK is the weak party to the talks and needs to make more concessions. It also seems to think the UK will be so desperate for a deal it will crack and concede on fishing, convergence of laws, powers of the ECJ and all the rest of their federal agenda.

The Conference provided unified advice. We do not need to pay to trade. An FTA is very much in the EU’s interest. We need to take control of our fish and land many more of them at home. We want to free ourselves of the controls of the ECJ, and will establish the right to shape our own laws as we see fit. Canada and Japan have FTAs with the EU but do not accept EU laws and the ultimate power of the ECJ. Our defence arrangements should be under our control, and our main collaboration through NATO. We should not impose any border between Northern Ireland and GB and not accept any continuing EU jurisdiction over any part of the UK from January 1. 2021.