Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[mr.elbee] 22/1/2020 09:20

I am being unfair here. What I mean is that the reality of any share moves is a closely guarded secret..All I have ever had is a reasonable view of charts for entry and exit points,and a good understanding of macro economics.

But I am not an Accountant ,and I am not privy to the secret goings on of companies.

If I had have been fully educated I would not have lost a fortune on IMG/Tadpole/Dialog and many others.

But no,I believed the propaganda..and some of it was true...but the important bits were left out,as all current journalists do with the "truth".

One thing that shocked me, when I saw it ,was a training manual for traders in a major financial house..the thinking was this........." Who is on the other side of the trade, and what do they think and want?"
This is the bleedin'obvious which,of course,I had ignored..Fundamentals do matter in the long term..but only the long term.

One of my old students in charge of a multi zillion desk for EM'S says it is harder than ever to make correct calls because of bots and the political instability.

The Wizards books do say this " If after losing it all,you realise some one else is better qualified to manage your dosh..go there."..but my experience is that it aint UK fund managers!The latest info is that they get the profit for each year and cut it exactly in half...one half for fees..the other half for the punters[everyone should read the market Wizards books..very cheap on Amazon]

Mark Mobius is THE MAN...and like a fool I never put my money with him..He has a new IT out..Check him out..

Be careful out there..This is why I am in the widows and orphans stock..LLOYDS

[utrickytrees] 22/1/2020 09:13

What do Scotland expect when 2/3rds if the working population are on drugs? It's a desperate situation one option might be legalise all drugs (pretty much is anyway) and promote prostitution, gambling & transgenderers & turn Scotland into a hedonistic pleasure country for the Northern hemisphere, a fusion between Bangkok & Atlantic City. They could have the Lady boys of Dumfries & Galloway.

[maxk] 22/1/2020 08:53

Scotland has ‘underperformed in key areas since devolution’
Study ranks wellbeing as low as Slovenia

Lewis McKenzie
January 22 2020, 12:01am,
The Times



Scotland has experienced one of the sharpest falls among developed countries in a ranking of national wellbeing and now matches Slovenia.

The nation fell five places into the bottom half of 32 OECD nations across a range of measures including income, education, longevity and inclusivity.

The Index of Social and Economic Wellbeing’s report said that Scotland had underperformed in key areas during the two decades since devolution.

Switzerland was top of the index, followed by Norway and Japan. The lowest ranked country was Greece, which was below Hungary and Slovakia. Scotland dropped to 21st, on a par with Slovenia.

The document, produced by the economist John McLaren of the Scottish Trends website, also noted that life expectancy remained the weakest area of performance for Scotland,…






Nicola Sturgeon to set out independence plans within days
Katrine Bussey
January 22 2020, 12:01am,
The Times



Nicola Sturgeon will issue an update on her next steps towards Scottish independence within days after the prime minister refused to allow a second referendum.

[mr.elbee] 22/1/2020 08:52

1/4 doable I'd say who spruced herself up for Boris beyond anything believable.

[maxk] 22/1/2020 08:37

"half doable older woman"


lol

[mr.elbee] 22/1/2020 08:34

good analysis Mr Tricky.

[jordaggy] 22/1/2020 08:28

Bliar's salary is paid by the banks; he does exactly as he is told too.

[m5] 22/1/2020 08:22

He will have scuttled off into one of his houses. Let's hope he gets the message that no one is interested in anything else he has to say.

[diku] 22/1/2020 08:18

Notice Blair has gone all quiet after the election...

[m5] 22/1/2020 08:16

Remainers never apologise for anything Graham, surely you realise they are far to grand and intelligent than to lower themselves. They, by definition are right 100% of the time.

[grahamite2] 22/1/2020 07:56

cheshire pete 21 Jan '20 - 20:22 - 290252 of 290258
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Well well well the IMF saying that UK will have better growth than the EU after Brexit. Deafening silence from remoaners in chief Blair, Major, Adonis et al. What chance any of them having the bottle to come out and apologise to the nation and fessing up to having got it wrong, wrong, wrong.

To a large extent it was exactly the same people who said it would be a disaster not to join the Euro, and none of them ever apologized for being wrong, wrong, wrong on that.

[xxxxxy] 22/1/2020 07:40

UK to grow faster than EurozoneBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 22, 2020The IMF published their latest forecasts for growth yesterday as I opened the first debate in Westminster Hall this decade, choosing the topic of how to promote faster growth. The IMF cut some of their forecasts. They also drew attention to how the monetary easing (other than in the UK) has led them to expect 0.5% extra growth world wide within their 3.3% forecast for 2020.The IMF expects the UK to grow at 1.4% in 2020 compared to 1.3% for France, 1.1% for Germany and 0.5% for Italy and 1.3% for the Euro area as a whole. These are poor Euro area figures and are despite the Euro area enjoying a substantial monetary easing from the ECB. The UK could grow faster than that if the government and Bank of England took the actions I have been proposing.The IMF shares many of the assumptions of the Davos internationalists, urging states to drive the green revolution faster. The IMF usually fails to forecast turning points, missing recessions until they are happening, and exaggerating negative consequences for any country not following the global agenda.It is probably right to be so pessimistic about Italy where the Euro rules impede change and about Germany where the green policies are damaging the car industry. The UK should continue to outperform the Eurozone this year if pro growth policies are followed through.

[spoonfed1] 22/1/2020 06:56

Patience required here. Had it's spike now a slow build up ! Economy will be more stable and this will benefit.

[jordaggy] 22/1/2020 01:29

Lloyds do actually really really care about its customers :)))

[jordaggy] 22/1/2020 01:04

Not going to affect the share price one jot but interesting to note I guess.

[maxk] 21/1/2020 23:56

EU preparing to give UK worse trade deal terms than Canada or Japan






Peter Foster, europe editor
21 JANUARY 2020 • 10:00PM



The European Union is preparing to offer the UK a trade deal on tougher terms than its deals with Canada, Japan and a host of other leading trade partners, the Telegraph has learned.

In what will be seen by industry as an unusually harsh move, the European Commission has warned EU member states that it would be a mistake to allow some UK industry bodies to be allowed to certify that goods conform to EU standards.

The so-called Mutual Recognition Agreements (MRAs) are granted to other key EU trade partners to facilitate the smooth movement of goods in key sectors, but could be withheld from the UK if it only seeks a basic trade deal.

The uncompromising European Commission stance surprised even some EU members states when they met on January 10 to discuss future goods trade with the UK, according to an account of the meeting obtained by The Telegraph....

[keyno] 21/1/2020 23:12

There's a big difference between being well-informed - about company specific information, say - which PI's generally are not - and being well-educated. I was just curious as to what you meant mr lb as I don't believe one's level of education has any bearing on how good an investor one is.

Most of the time we PI's are thrashing about blindly, not because we are stupid but because of "events, dear boy, events", of which we are often the last to be told.

[cheshire pete] 21/1/2020 20:22

Well well well the IMF saying that UK will have better growth than the EU after Brexit. Deafening silence from remoaners in chief Blair, Major, Adonis et al. What chance any of them having the bottle to come out and apologise to the nation and fessing up to having got it wrong, wrong, wrong.

[cheshire pete] 21/1/2020 20:15

Alphorn: "I actually wonder whether any poster here holds any positions. (M2 is only poster that discloses any)."

Think most probably do Alphorn but seemingly 'bad form' to discuss other holdings on a BB as assumed to be ramping or de-ramping. Maybe scope for 'open forum' type threads.