Kier Share Discussion Threads

[dun rentin] 27/4/2022 07:37

Rumour has it that he is currently recovering from a bout of severe dizziness caused by his constant spinning. Be patient as it takes time for him to find so many different ways of creatively presenting the story of the Kings New Clothes.

[zicopele] 26/4/2022 15:09

Come on Steddy...give us another contract win.

[propdeveloper] 26/4/2022 09:38

Only Russian raw material is Gas to supply energy to steel plants and other manufacturing facilities.

Obviously oil being higher feeds through into prices meaning all building suppliers are raising prices.

Steel is the worst, as they won't quote past 24hour deadline and energy costs are high.

My own experience is labour is the issue. We lost a lot of skilled tradesman due to Brexit and other countries becoming more attractive compared with UK. Some Polish I know went home as whilst wages higher in UK , the cost of living is higher too, so when they weigh it all up they were better off in Poland.

Kier operate a salaried/wage staff so they can manage their staffing to a degree, but will need to raise wages - just not to the same extent as freelancers as their employees are on the cards. Any good company will use this as a way of retaining good staff so it will be interesting if Kier can keep to their margins.

There is a lot of doommongering over pricing but bluntly a lot of things they know beforehand, such as red fuel etc. Commercial energy costs aren't capped so actually their pricing may go down and was at its peak from Dec--March. Price per Gas Therm is back to Sept pricing (still high).

I'm just trying to say labour is the big issue, it will elongate schedules, etc if not correctly managed. Commodities (on the whole) can be managed to more of a degree than labour in the current market.

[geoffthree] 25/4/2022 20:30

All depends on how the world adjusts to the loss of Russian raw materials. That's what's hitting the shares of builders now. If Putin throws in the towel, depending on the mood music around that, there could be a big recovery in these 'risk' shares. Kier still winning big from the government. The A417 is a big deal for Kier.

[bathboy2] 25/4/2022 17:17

Doesn't bother me if they do, but ok if they treble or more, i like a recession, kit is cheaper and i seem to make more money, i think i enjoy the challenge,

[sparty1] 25/4/2022 16:41

bathtoy..I really hope interest rates treble..

[wallywoo] 25/4/2022 08:20

As the share price hits another 52 week low, I am sure Stdy will launch another contract win post and tell you all what a great investment Kier is. 810 percent more shares than 6 years ago (55m to 446m) and no signs that this will stop.


Do yourself a favour and don't catch this falling knife. The share price is showing you exactly what the market thinks of Kier as a investment. Leave well alone.

[bathboy2] 22/4/2022 22:21

How are they going to fund, especially as interest rates are going to climb, as inflation is out of control, im in America, and its about to crash here, thought hey were meant to be staying away from large contracts, this is not good news for kier imo

[dun rentin] 22/4/2022 22:17

Did you forget the question mark? If not, your sentiments do not appear to be supported by the share price southwards movement.

[zicopele] 22/4/2022 20:12

Yeah. .. great news

[stdyeddy] 22/4/2022 15:46

A massive contract win for our favourite construction firm announced today:



Kier has been awarded £460m contract by National Highways to design and deliver an upgrade to the A417 between Gloucester and Swindon.

An absolutely enormous win, valued at more than 10% of the business's annual turnover currently.

[stutes] 22/4/2022 13:55

hxxps://www.constructionenquirer.com/2022/04/22/kier-confirmed-winner-of-460m-a417-missing-link/

In winning this large contract , how has the jv protected itself from the pitfalls that hurt the Aberdeen jv?

[stdyeddy] 13/4/2022 09:20

Good to see our favourite construction firm continue to win places on the major frameworks.
Kier, Morgan Sindall win places on £640m Yorkshire frameworks


Kier's Capital Markets Day is scheduled for 25 May, so it looks as though we won't have to wait until sometime after the year end (June 31) for an update on how things are going.

[wallywoo] 13/4/2022 09:00

Ant, good idea. In 2015, Kier had 55m issued shares, in 2019 they had 95m shares and today they have 446m shares. (Shares issued at 858, 350, and 85p)!


The rise is accelerating massively now so in a few years (With paper becoming increasingly valuable), you will be able to sell your share certificates as toilet paper and make a fortune.


Make sure you get a certificate that is soft and quilted!!!

[itisonlymoney] 12/4/2022 18:07

Kier reporting on its website today a big framework win. Alright to share this news is it or are the trolls gonna get their knickers in a twist?

Kier appointed to the £30bn CWAS2/P23 Framework
hxxps://www.kier.co.uk/media/news-releases/leading-builder-of-healthcare-facilities-kier-appointed-to-the-30bn-cwas2p23-framework/

[itisonlymoney] 12/4/2022 17:54

wallywoo, i remember you saying sell kier at 50p and every other price. You're a stopped clock i'd say. Don't think what you're peddling is actual 'advice'. more like trolling. price here is showing a lack of confidence due to war in europe and inflation. up to kier to show some numbers that put the confidence back in. If they're making money, it's a very cheap share price no one here has answers, that's for sure.

[dasty1] 12/4/2022 12:42

It does appear Kier have discovered the third certainty in life: death, taxes and a falling kier share price Can anyone advise whether my purchase of kier shares at last year's placement can be put down as a charitable giving on my tax self assessment form?

[wallywoo] 12/4/2022 10:56

Lol, sure thing Stdy, I said back in September sell Kier (at 135p) when they are still in their post equity issue euphoria. You said all their problems were behind them and the share price would be 200+ by now. I know which was the best advice, do you??


Your tactics here seems to be to ignore the 40 percent share price drop and carry on ramping. Ignoring the fact that Kier have yet to generate any cash after 6 years of losing money. Going from 95m shares (only 55m shares before 2015 rights issue!!) to 446m shares in issue today, in order to continue trading. H2 has been the worst period for Kier, with the most money flowing out over the last 6 years. It's no surprise the share price is looking nervous.

[my retirement fund] 12/4/2022 10:09

This is looking pretty sick, I assume they can't keep up with inflation and higher labour and input costs point to a trajectory of bankruptcy ?

[bathboy2] 12/4/2022 10:04

Stdy of course being on a framework costs money, the army of estimators have to paid, all for nothing really, because being on a framework doesn't mean you will get any work, it makes for misleading figures on work in hand

[stutes] 12/4/2022 09:47

If you consider the amount of money raised from last two rights issue, assets sold, the City are valuing K below the £479m raised from the rigthts issues.

[stdyeddy] 12/4/2022 08:36

Another week, another framework win for our favourite construction firm. Kier wins a places on both east and west lots of the £640m YORbuild framework.



More lying from wolly -- being on a framework does not cost Kier anything, and winning contracts is crucial in this sector. Lying has always been your problem -- that is why you are not a worthwhile contributor to advfn.