you mean the tories might say they've got "no confidence" in labour. i bet that wld come as quite a shock. but the same question (you seem to be avoiding giving an answer) - how many labour MPs have said they would vote against the govt in a no confidence vote? |
A vote of no confidence doesn't have to come from the labour side , as I've said , but how many would vote for Starmer to stay , that fact is that , it's the feeling of instability this country is facing , that is the issue not being grasped , the whole election promise , that everyone was going to be better off , well that certainly isn't the case , |
we can discuss that at some point but for now, how many labour MPs have said that they would vote against the government in a no confidence vote? |
Are you happy with the current state of government, because you would be in the minority, unless you are a civil servant |
how many labour MPs have said that they would vote against the government in a no confidence vote? |
Last challenge was against Rishi Sunak , and we see how that ended up , total instability and with a change of government, stability should have happened, but the current government policies are making it worse |
how many labour MPs have said that they would vote against the government in a no confidence vote? |
Last successful happened in 1979, Labour's James Callaghan, but happened since unsuccessfully, but still destabilises a government and normally has the effect of a change of leadership, |
327MP's total , so of Labour's 402 just 77 required if all all other members voted against, around 20% |
so getting back to this "no confidence" vote, how many labour MPs would have to vote for it to bring down the govt? |
Yes, but councillors aren't MPs and don't vote for the government. Tbf, councillors are always 'resigning'. They're just local people getting involved in their borough.
Beth Winter isn't an MP. Her constituency was absorbed into other districts before the general election and it's still represented by labour MPs. She didn't quit as an MP, she just resigned her membership of the party. the labour party still has about a 360,000 other members, so she might not be missed especially.
Shaun Davies is the labour MP for Telford. Don't know why you're saying he's an independent.
Rosie Duffield is the only one who's resigned and that was in septmber last yr. btw, that's nothing compared to the number of tory mps who've resigned. They fled in droves. Some even joined Labour. |
It's derisory to say ' just councillors ' and the do ultimately get paid an allowance, |
Rosie Driffield , Beth Winter , Shaun Davies, |
ok, but those Broxtowe councillors are not MPs. they're just unpaid local councillors who involve themselves in local governance. you said MPs have quit and that you believe they are now independents. which MPs? i don't see any, but obviously you've looked into this, right? |
Broxtowe councillors , including MP's , DYOR |
ok, well i'm glad you think they're hardly heading that way, but who are these 20 councillors who have quit and the mps that you believe are now independents? |
A vote of no confidence can be triggered by any MP, lesser chance of success, if the opposition leader triggers it , it could be classed as being triggered by House of Commons, all out there to read , see another 'personal.appointment' of Starmer , is linked to corruption in another Country, if everyone thought the Conservatives were 'Sleazy' then Labour are hardly 'possibly heading that way' interesting to see how this plays out , it is a bad distraction for The Country as a whole . |
you were talking about a vote of "no confidence". how would that come about? you're saying that starmer's majority is being eroded. are you saying that 20 MPs have left the government and become independents? |
bathboy/wallywoo, that's an interesting comment you're making - "labour stay in much longer there will be mass civil unrest,,". do you think labour will be out of government soon?
You said a couple of days ago that there would be a "vote of no confidence". how would that come about? |
Huge over-reaction from indiscriminate market sell-off. Kier Group reports on the 21st. This is priced as though it's almost bust like it was 6 years ago. Today it's a completely different business with about £165m net cash. Divi payer too. Turnover seems to be up. I'm back in. |
And also accidents waiting to happen , the car crash share drop today , with the top UK construction company lol |
You haven't seen anything yet , labour stay in much longer and there will be mass civil unrest.The NHS is full off overpaid , underworked staff on massive pensions, only really worked staff are in A&E , which then hold up the ambulance services , so they cannot do their jobs , the system is so overweight , with too many unproductive staff , it needs a massive shake up , but no one's got the bottle to do it |
The bond yield is being hurt by USA and a pending Trump presidency. It has a knock on effect in UK.
What is bemusing the electorate wants more doctors, nurses, homes and fewer potholes - it cost £ and last Government had highest tax % burden - so how would a new Government secure the money to address public concerns? The last Government messed up the economy - don't forget Truss, NHS, strikes,. |
-15% in a month and no sign of reversal |
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