Kainos Share Discussion Threads

[hanzoo] 14/6/2016 12:46

Do we have beginning of some accumulation now?

[hazl] 14/6/2016 09:39

Amusing how none of us are rushing to complain to ALNC about their error!
Imagine if it was the reverse. ))

[hanzoo] 13/6/2016 20:21

We had various directors buying around 200 to reassure shareholders ,everyone can see where the price is now , so selling now must be a good sign though.;)

[edmate] 13/6/2016 19:34

Just what we need... Salt in the wound springs to mind

[buffythebuffoon] 13/6/2016 18:18

She sold 30,000 of 1,030,072 shares held!

Must have needed to buy a new car....

Buffy

[gswredland] 13/6/2016 18:14

This chart is scary though.

[hazl] 13/6/2016 17:50

OH DEAR Ed good point.....investegate states a sale


imo

[valhamos] 13/6/2016 17:01

"You might as well say 'the real power is held by the civil service, not by Parliament, which is largely a talking shop.'"

Not at all. We can change the make-up of Parliament to achieve desired change. We cannot do that with the EU.


"access to a market of 500 million consumers?" The EU is a diminishing yet very expensive trade cartel, and a hindrance to free trade, with delusions of power in coercing peoples who live within its realm.

"The best succinct argument against Brexit I have heard..."

I haven't heard any cogent arguments against Brexit just Projects Fear and Confusion. As far as trade is concerned if EU states want to sell to us (and we import more from the EU than we export)then we can expect that we will be able to sell to them.

And by the way, peace has been maintained by NATO not the EU.


Anyway this has gone off topic. In or out KNOS is looking quite attactive for me to top up.

[blah blah] 13/6/2016 16:40

You might as well say 'the real power is held by the civil service, not by Parliament, which is largely a talking shop.'

You want to swap some outdated notion of sovereignty for access to a market of 500 million consumers? (what does that mean? Didn't all our individual sovereignties in Europe cause two world wars and millions of deaths while a united Europe has kept the peace for 70 years and counting among its members?).

The best succinct argument against Brexit I have heard is that it is like asking for a divorce where you get to keep all of the benefits but none of the responsibilities of marriage. You try asking asking your wife/husband to sign up to that deal and see how far you get - why should we expect our current European partners to do the same and allow us to access their markets?

[valhamos] 13/6/2016 16:23

"why does anyone think we would be better off giving them more power?"

To regain national sovereignty.

"You can already vote for MEPs, although most seem not to bother."

The real power and decision making in the EU is held by the unelected European Commisssion not the European Parliament which is largely a talking shop.

[hazl] 13/6/2016 15:58

Ah director shareholding!
I am voting out from a governance point of view.........do we really want to be in the position of not being able to vote a bad government out if we have such a thing in the future?
Have governments got a good record of doing the 'right' thing or are we dissatisfied with the current situation?

IMO

[blah blah] 13/6/2016 10:34

"they think a leave vote will be great for UK stocks."

That's quite a spin, but no great surprise given how the leavers will twist anything to try to back their case and given how no serious economists back their arguments.

From the quote you provided, shares will rise 5% if it is remain. If it is leave they will fall 10%. How is that "great for UK stocks"? Oh, I see, the fact that Sterling will collapse will possibly allow shares to recover.

So, in summary, shares will be 15% lower if it is leave compared with a win for remain, and Sterling will collapse. Hardly economic nirvana is it?

[breaktwister] 13/6/2016 10:33

Back in at 156 for my SIPP. If it goes lower I'll buy more. Safe long term investment at this price. Happily took the bargain on offer this morning.

[tintin82] 13/6/2016 10:26

Hoping for a bexit also, will certainly be interesting times.

This just out from Deutsche, they think a leave vote will be great for UK stocks.

'We think European equities could rise by around 5% in a Remain scenario, driven by lower uncertainty and tightening peripheral spreads. In case of a Leave vote, we see around 10% downside for European equities at first (though this could be offset by a swift policy response). We think UK equities are set to outperform Europe in this case, given likely sterling weakness.'

[hazl] 13/6/2016 09:32

AMORpost 1350


Absolutely agree about reasons for share p at present.
However after initial boost if we vote to stay in, I think markets will be difficult again.
I personally hope there is brexit from a governance point of view.

imos

[tintin82] 13/6/2016 08:16

amoore70 - The logic that when someone disagrees with you mean they are talking rubbish is interesting. You have your thoughts and reasons for the share price fall, I respect they are yours, not rubbish, all views welcome.

PS. I dont think KNOS is overvalued, in fact I think we are pretty bang on fair valuation now. In my last post I state that the reason I think the share price fell was that the share price 'went' way ahead.

Watching really close, hopefully going to get a change to get on board at the right price. There is always the change of missing the rise playing this game, as I think this may take a sharp reversal up, always the risk when trying to get in at a real value price.

[amoore70] 13/6/2016 08:07

You don't have talk a load of rubbish tintin82. This share is not overvalued at all. The share price is struggling in the main because of brexit fears and fear we are heading into recession. This is happening to a lot of shares right now.

As I have said before also IT gets hit hard in these circumstances. Once 23rd has been and gone and hopefully we stay in the EU I would expect this to get back to 200p+.

But I am less convinced we will remain now and then this could actually go a lot lot lower.

[ali47fish] 12/6/2016 10:00

anyway Sharewatch hold this company in great esteem and like emis both shares are sluggish but recent updates were decent so i am holding still

[tintin82] 12/6/2016 08:18

Guys, please do not get so defensive and emotional. I do not have an 'agenda', all I have done is simply stated that I have believed for a long time that this was overvalued, if I get told to go elsewhere for saying that then this says a lot for folk on this thread.

We all have winners and losers, so Hazl while you trawl my post history you might want to read back a few more of my posts for a track record instead of being selective old boy! I will happily admit some of my holdings including GMS are not going as planned, but please have a look on my posts for RTN, SFE, PRES, FFY, to name a few. All healthy profit. I will leave you to report back to us all. I never professed to being a guru of any sort.

This is not about gloating, I wish you all to make profit, but just try to show a bit more respect to people who happen to disagree with you, you never know, you might save some money!

KNOS is a great company, the share price simply went way way ahead of itself, and I tried to warn.

Good luck guys, have a great weekend.

[edmate] 11/6/2016 22:34

Tintin go elsewhere with your provocative posts on here please. OK so a few people are losing money, if that makes you feel better about yourself then you're really a very sad individual. Well done you got the price movement right. Great. You must be so pleased. I've also read the posts back and nobody initially encouraged your antagonistic comments. Please stay quiet unless you have something decent to say. Please... Thank you

[hazl] 11/6/2016 22:20

Anyway don't worry about him .....his GMS isn't doing so well,
by the sounds of it he's been nursing those losses for some time ......so he's no guru.

[hazl] 11/6/2016 22:11

Yes he clearly has an agenda.........no one writes as much as that if they haven't.
I will say though that shorting seems to bring out the worst in people.
I think the stock market is a volatile place at the moment,so take care of your cash.

[hanzoo] 11/6/2016 21:51

Thats Your aim tintin build up the fear and panic amongst us so you can buy on cheap.
Maybe U are right or not.