Itv Share Discussion Threads

[alex1621] 01/12/2020 09:34

I would not read too much into "tree shaking" to be honest. It refers to market makers (who hold stock to sell or buy to serve demand) mark down a share to panic people into selling and then mark up again when they've bought what they need. A practice more prevalent in small company shares with few market makers. Less likely with large companies.The ups and downs are consistent with many other companies, and not specific to ITV. So it might be due to the vaccine news, Brexit news, economic forecasts, Biden election win, etc. More macro than firm specific.

[netcurtains] 01/12/2020 09:31

TomGreen_97: Its not just this stock, it was more or less, the entire FTSE.
We do know (in newspapers) that some investment funds were planning to take a lot of money out of the FTSE.
This appears to have happened last night. I'm guessing, once that was done, loads of new money rushed in (and is still rushing in) ...
Hence the swing.
But that is just a wild guess on my part.
I dont think anyone knows.

So many things: US elections, Vaccines, recession, recoveries, brexit, investment funds playing around - it could be anything and everything

[tomgreen_97] 01/12/2020 09:27

Hi I'm relatively new to investing and ITV is my first stock which I have a significant hold with. Can anyone explain in layman's why this has bounced up and down so much the past 2 weeks ? I understand how an share price can react to news events however I know there are several other factors that I'm still not familiar with. I've seen the word 'tree shaking' used on here the past week for example...

[netcurtains] 01/12/2020 09:20

tiobs2: No I think it is was a real twitter rumour. I kid you not! Weird old market down one day up the next.....Talk about shaking trees - this is like some massive catapult swing!

(lol - "real rumour" - what on earth am I talking about).

[scepticalinvestor] 01/12/2020 08:41

100p today?

[netcurtains] 30/11/2020 17:40

Also Bidden had sprained his ankle in a fall today so that might also have spooked market.

[netcurtains] 30/11/2020 17:38

Rumours are its a Brexit related panic but it also is a bit of a con as markets will shoot up with a deal but many people would have got shaken out first. .
Eg it would have broken panicy peoples stop losses.

[hamhamham1] 30/11/2020 17:24

French rattling their sabre. Short man syndrome me thinks.

[nige co] 30/11/2020 17:10

FTSE 100 closes in red as traders book profits and Brexit jitters begin once more

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[netcurtains] 30/11/2020 16:56

What happened to the FTSE - is there a NO DEAL Brexit? Anyone know what happened?

[tomgreen_97] 30/11/2020 16:44

Huge sell at close

[nige co] 30/11/2020 16:22

Jacko, I agree, GS are not to be trusted, they have a history of this kind of thing, they're corrupt to the core, the sooner that they are out of ITV the better.

[netcurtains] 30/11/2020 14:56

well said!

I however just stick to really obvious stuff - but I do understand others want to know whats happening under the hood. For me I normally work it out all wrong so I just go for the most basic facts (such as they are).

[stag6] 30/11/2020 13:53

I agree with you all with ITV, it is due to break 100p soon, that will be a marker. A vaccine date would push it up 10p, but a good Brexit deal will do wonders for ITV.

Just a wee bit of good news and 120p in the new year.

Good Luck chaps!

[netcurtains] 30/11/2020 13:50

jacko07: I dont look at investments like that. I dont care about GS or other conspiracy theories. I just look at the market cap versus NAV and PE. Then I look at potential future prospects. If all three look good I buy.
For me ITV ticks all the boxes.

Anyone who spends time investigating conspiracy theories is going to waste a great deal of time and will come to no real conclusions.

ITV is cheap. PE of about 8, normal PE for this sector is about 20.
It makes a lot of money and has a lot of NAV value and it has a lot of clout by owning TV production studios.

[jacko07] 30/11/2020 13:38

Goldman are bad news to any share, you never know what they are playing at. Because GS are connected to scores of other hedge funds on top of having it's own tentacles offshoots and arms. Most on this board are savvy to the GS involvement in ITV, but thousands of small investors get spooked when GS shake the tree and sell at a loss.

They get away with murder because they are so powerful. GS were accused of manipulation in Apple shares a few years back when Apple shares were easier to mess with and looking where Apple is now, GS and it's clients filled their boots that time. It is frightening to see how many people in Government or connected to Government throughout the World are ex Goldman Sachs.

Goldman Sachs continues engaged in very dark activities making use of suspicious and fraudulent websites to spread fake news trying to scare savvy investors. Apple was chosen to be the victim of stock market manipulation.

So in one way we do have the bonus of GS being involved in ITV who are a bombed out stock today, but let us hope that GS & co are looking at ITV in the same light as they did Apple, a grower from here on in. That would be as a nice earner or a two or three bagger....that is achievable given just a few little helpers, Brexit deal and a Vaccine for a two shot and a bid for the three.

[alex1621] 30/11/2020 09:19

A lot would depend on how other companies market capitalisations have changed. As many FTSE 250 stocks have soared more than ITV they may in fact be further back in the queue?

[nige co] 30/11/2020 08:36

Ivan, ITV currently valued at 108 in the FTSE, need at lest a share price of 108p I would think to stand a chance of regaining the FTSE100.

[ivanborsky] 30/11/2020 08:19

Interesting play on ITV this week team. Brexit talks aside, at 96p -ish, ITV will be considered as a re-entry to the FTSE as apart of the SE review on 2nd December for implementation 21st December. We will soon know GS want and if they call the stock down, the question we should be asking is why do they want ITV out of the FTSE when its on everyone's buy list for a recovery paly in 2021 ???

[peddlers] 29/11/2020 23:12

The 2 of them are probably skint

[alex1621] 29/11/2020 16:07

You're the fake C7 ... we want to hear from the real one, sad old sod that he is.