Imagine comparable initially then cheaper due to not big battery in quantity. If something should get state aid it's that. Maybe assisted buying then a per mile to offset loss of taxes... saying that they'll tax hydrogen |
Not cheaper but greener... |
Will H2 cars be a lot cheaper than comparable EVs? |
This sounds like a 5 year old conversation we had when we had dreams of fast adoption... its a shame but it's reality. We all know (here) that a real effort from governments on hydrogen no matter the cost its not as high as loss of human habitat/planet. |
Remember that there will still be a lot of petrol and diesel cars around so service stations will have to stay open. Easier to put 2 or 3 hydrogen pumps in than 6-8 EV charging points. |
It's also in the Telegraph today.
A couple of snippets: -
"BMW has bet big on hydrogen as an alternative to battery-powered EVs and intends to market its models to customers who do not have the ability to charge at home, such as those without a garage or driveway.
BMW says hydrogen could appeal to drivers who require high-flexibility or travel frequently, for whom fast charging is too time-consuming. It could also appeal to buyers in cold climates, which are not conducive to long battery life. But the models will need access to new hydrogen fuelling stations for uptake to become widespread."
As mentioned in the Times article referenced above BMW are betting big that the refuelling infrastructure will have increased by 2028.
I for one would prefer the convenience of Hydrogen over battery if they can get the refuelling infrastructure in place and the costs are competitive. |
I still believe it will be a mix of technologies. |
That creates a major problem for EV's. If Hydrogen cars gain traction it could spell the end of EV's. I'm expecting HGV's to take off first with most if not all motorway services installing Hydrogen refuelling. Once that happens it will spread to major service stations as the infrastructure is mainly there. There won't be sufficient room at service stations to charge more than around 6 to 8 cars at a time and depending on the level of charge could take between 30 to 40 minutes per vehicle whereas Hydrogen will get quicker to fill possibly down to 3-4 minutes per vehicle.. |
Toyota, as well as BMW :- |
BMW's decision to offer hydrogen powered cars from 2028 is making the headlines across the media. Partnership with Toyota and both car makers have called for global governments to invest in hydrogen infrastructure... |
So what does the ordinary person who lives in a terrace or flat in an inner-city suburb do?
Answer: they reject the whole idea of EVs as impractical.
I'm not even convinced that SSBs and fast chargers will solve the problem because then there'll inevitably be a pricing issue. That's going to need giant government subsidies :¬) |
Do they though? For 8-9 months of the year, I charge when the sun shines-Solar charges the car. In the winter I charge late at night when it`s cheaper. |
in reality most charge during the evening whilst cooking tea resulting in the need to switch on coal and other fired power stations to cope with demand |
The great advantage of EVs is that they can be charged overnight, hopefully avoiding the need to turn off wind turbines.
It's a bit like ITM's business model. |
Plug Awarded $10 Million DOE Grant to Lead Development of Advanced Hydrogen Refueling Station in Washington StateSeems u.s gov thinks plug not going down the plug ole? Be nice if itm got anything like this ... |
Nope
With any luck Dennis might post on LinkedIn 😉 |
Has anyone got access? |
We could make them go away again, for just 0.00025 BTC/month. |
Interview by Dennis on 9th. |
things must be looking up pinky and perky are back |
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