Innovaderma Share Discussion Threads

[roundup] 22/11/2017 09:58

Lucky!! "I don't know anything." It's best not to speculate.

[molatovkid] 22/11/2017 09:46

I'm in....average substantially down and every chance of a profit

[doc robinson] 22/11/2017 09:35

Buyers returning !

[che7win] 22/11/2017 09:30

I think it has over swung here.What's more SCSW might well revisit it and recommend a buy - is it this weekend?

[mad foetus] 22/11/2017 09:26

RSI showing oversold for only second time this year but with 59 DMA at 278 this has a long way to move before downtrend is reversed

[quant_investor] 22/11/2017 09:12

I think we will get an update early in December when they will have nearly full visibility of H1 figures.

I don't think the company will want the share price to languish at these levels. ST sales will be up strongly yoy, and confirmation that Roots continues to exceed expectations wouldn't harm.

With all the forthcoming product launches there must be some news that can be shared regarding Operations...without giving too much away.


A positive update would bring the share price back to life given the high level of investor awareness here.

[boonboon] 22/11/2017 09:09

Stock levels haven't run out for a while now. Superdrug stocks are being constantly topped up.

[che7win] 22/11/2017 08:40

Molarovkid, Agree, I view the share as very oversold now, but Harris still needs to show the market that the business can throw off cash.Seeing stock levels constantly run out is a real put off to me.The company is maturing in that it is weening us off monthly updates, that is a bit cold turkey but good in the long run.Everyone is waiting for a decisive turn in the chart at this stage - at least I am.

[nw99] 22/11/2017 08:38

Yes needs a statement

[aishah] 22/11/2017 08:36

Market says "Show me the money". imo,dyor

[qs99] 22/11/2017 08:24

agreed it needs news, positive news to take it away from this drift, management while they should not focus on the SP, halving is pretty dramatic so they should say something me thinks...

[molatovkid] 22/11/2017 08:17

I think rather than some dark, malevolent force manipulating the price, the explanation is far more simple and rooted in investor psyche.

A slow decline like this is symptomatic of people getting bored, stops being hit (like teddy selling out yesterday) and a lack of price support as people fear catching the falling knife. This has been a traders share and this is what happens when the hot money leaves.

The price needs news and an impetus to encourage buyers....

[muzmanoz] 21/11/2017 22:00

Interesting point on the company issuing shares to meet legal and other fees. Of those issued:

53,562 shares were to be allotted on 26 October at 337.64p per share (with 50% locked in so they can't be sold for up to 180 days)

37,500 shares were to be allotted on 15 November at 288p per share

As both issues are heavily underwater, I wonder if the recipients have been selling. I can't imagine law firms and others are in the business of speculating.

I wish the company wouldn't pay fees in shares because as modform suggests it could imply cashflow issues and that the company doesn't value the shares. It could of course be due to prior agreements.

[modform] 21/11/2017 21:14

Well said luckymouse, the mm doesn't give a monkey where the share price is, they are there to make money through the spread only.Trade with a strategy, and have a stop loss in place. Trade what you see and not what you think.When the company issues shares to settle legal expenses, you have to worry about the financial position of the company.2nd post here, the first was when the share price was 360p, the chart didn't look good then, and looks awful now.DYOR, CAPITAL PRESERVATION IS THE FIRST RULE OF INVESTING.

[ddubzy] 21/11/2017 20:45

Just re-read the AGM statement....I'll be adding in the morning..Remark, you can then turn your 280p magnet on!

[naplion] 21/11/2017 19:02

Something not right here I said. It was over valued in the first place, went up too high too fast

[luckymouse] 21/11/2017 18:44

All BS aside (inc MM are to blame - they only do temp movements to find your volume)
this is falling like something is seriously wrong & seemed to start at the finals - I had a quick look at the results and they looked great at a glance (too great?) - so what's really causing it to fall out of bed? Placing, cash burn, something hidden in the accounts, PZ Cussons gunning for their main product, been dishonest about something, SkinnyTan is just fashion blip, other?
I traded them a bit on the way up but haven't followed closely since - I know from experience when a share price moves like that & silence from the co it can mean they are hiding something - but that's just a hunch - I dont know anything?
TIA LM

[ihatemms] 21/11/2017 18:42

There was a 10k after hours trade yesterday at the same time which was def a buy. And today 20k today - almost certainly another buy. It seems shares are being collected for somebody presumably an institution.

[mudis] 21/11/2017 18:34

Email company teddy. Ask HC to dump some shares for MM to boost share price

[teddy boy1] 21/11/2017 18:18

The M Ms desperately need shares but so few in circulation how else are they supposed to get hold of a worthwhile number apart from scaring investors out of their shares by savaging the share price every day ?Anyone got a believable answer to my question ,because it is very plain to me that this is what is happening!

[doc robinson] 21/11/2017 18:11

Late trade reported 20000 at 1.92 p buy or sell ?

[hitsha1] 21/11/2017 17:37

This is painful to watch, hope it recovers for PI