Ilika Share Discussion Threads

[horneblower] 07/1/2021 18:08

super,
I don't think they are sidelining anything. If Goliath works, it will work at many sizes, including hairdriers.

But does Goliath work?

The spike in the share price gives no information as it is pure speculation. It may rocket further but until we get some (any) info from the company it is all based on hot air.

The fact that they chose to put most of their funding towards Stereax rather than Goliath might be a clue?

[supernumerary] 07/1/2021 17:32

I sort of see the theory, but it seems to me it would be easier to make one battery for a handset or hair dryer than to make a hundred or more for a car. It's also a lot easier to get it to market - putting a major component in a car is years of work. Given that there are markets for both, why not start with the easier task?

[mauricemonkey] 07/1/2021 17:00

One assumes they can only do so much with the resources to hand. Get the Stearax production line up and running, keep working with automotive partners on Goliath and then circle back to intermediate applications as human resource gains bandwidth and (hopefully) cash is generated to pay for further R&D.

[supernumerary] 07/1/2021 15:30

The intermediate level batteries for phones, cameras, hand tools etc seem to have disappeared completely, apart from some legacy photos on the website.

As I understand it they were planning to use a small form factor Goliath for such applications. Has anyone heard more about this development, or has it been shelved in favour of automotive?

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 15:19

You are wrong I will.

[tp5588] 07/1/2021 15:16

We enjoyed 2 whole days of this thread being positive (with the added bonus of witnessing R getting dry bummed). The increase in share price isn’t due to any ramping. The share is now known to a greater audience & EV & other green energy projects are now big investment areas. The interest in these is growing by the day.. but you already know this. I could write a book refuting just about every negative comment that has been made here - Simply by stating common-sense points and drawing on clear statements the company has repeatedly made. Can’t be bothered though & I don’t actually think negative posters believe what they themselves write. If you’ve sold out, be happy with your profit. A bit of dignity & good wishes to those who remain… too much to ask for?

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 15:15

You are wrong I will.

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 14:50

Horneblower,
Hopefully we will know more next week.

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 14:44

Rogk, Ive been heavily invested in Ilika since 15,12,2014, I also went to their Investor open day last year, Im not trying to ramp up the price but Im very happy where it is, I have emailed Ilika regarding Goliath patents, so stick that in your pipe!

[horneblower] 07/1/2021 14:37

Rogk, Yes and as far as I can find out, IKA has said nothing of consequence regarding Goliath for about a year now, but I might have missed something!

They have become more and more secretive. Their website gets glossier but has less info on it.

Sadly, my conclusion is they have not cracked the problems with Goliath, particularly with dendrites. Secrecy is all very well but to me it raises suspicion.

They really need to show some practical results on Goliath...even if it is work in progress.

[horneblower] 07/1/2021 14:25

duw...We know that. It's about Stereax.
Anything specific to Goliath?

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 14:22

I think this covers it but I may contact the Co to verify it.
Building Ilika's intellectual property portfolio in solid-state batteries has continued to be a focus this year. Ilika believes its patents ring fence and protect critical IP to avoid competitors working around a single patent. Ilika now maintains a portfolio of 15 patent families in solid-state batteries, of which three are jointly owned with Toyota. This portfolio includes 20 granted patents.

[horneblower] 07/1/2021 13:38

duwendag: That's for Stereax: a completely different process and only suitable for tiny, low-power batteries.
What we need is is any patents around Goliath. Can you find any?

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 13:28

Plus on the 8th Oct 2019 from Share Cast mag.
The AIM-traded firm said that over the past two years, it had seen “substantial progress” in the prosecution of that aspect of its patent portfolio at the patent offices of China, Korea, Japan, the United States, and Europe.

As a result, three of its patent families were said to be “significantly stronger”, with eight related filings going to grant and notices of allowance being issued for a further four.

It said those patent filings protected the methods used to make its thin-film solid-state Stereax cells.

The Stereax roadmap began with miniature batteries designed to meet the demands of powering wireless devices, and had since been extended to include large format cells for automotive.

“Protecting Ilika's know-how relating to solid-state batteries is key to our ability to grow our business,” said Ilika chief executive officer Graeme Purdy.

“We take this very seriously and employ a vice-president of intellectual property, who is seconded to the company from an international firm of patent lawyers to manage this process for us.

“This strategy is validated by the continued stream of granted patents reinforcing our position.”

[duwendag] 07/1/2021 13:19

Rogk, what's this then. Ilika announces that two of its British patent applications, jointly filed with Toyota Motor Company on 21st July 2011, were formally granted on 23rd April 2014.These two patents cover the vapour deposition processes used in producing solid state batteries directly from the elements. They therefore represent a key part of the family of patents and pending applications that cover the complete methodology for producing stacked solid-state cell batteries, a world first and key technological breakthrough on the road to commercial solidstate devices, announced by the Company on 9th January 2014. These particular joint filings resulted from collaborative work undertaken by Ilika and Toyota, which commenced in 2008.

[robertspc1] 07/1/2021 12:56

You can check all my previous posts. Unlike most on here, I am a LT investor managing my SIPP. No interest in day trading/ramping etc. IKA is a long term hold - well positioned in medtech, consumer electronics and hopefully EVs to come. You seem to be annoying everyone

[mauricemonkey] 07/1/2021 12:43

Ilika research EV batteries with their partners. Have you checked to see if they’ve been filed under the partners name?
Off you go, there’s a good boy.

[robertspc1] 07/1/2021 10:06

Korea's SK investing $1.5bn into Plug Power in US, demonstrates there is big money out there looking to invest in the technology of the future. We will know more about IKA plans in a weeks time

[mauricemonkey] 06/1/2021 15:00

I guess we ran out of sellers?

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