Hochschild Mining Share Discussion Threads

[juju44] 11/9/2017 20:34

commercials are the crimms . They increased their shorts in PMs recently . They CANNOT be beaten

[richkid71] 11/9/2017 20:33

This will be smashed considerably tomorrow.

[ohno1] 11/9/2017 16:50

Can anyone let me know which ticker symbol they are using for the latest futures as the z17 comes up as nymex and doesn't give any info at all.

[richkid71] 11/9/2017 15:21

Don't think I live in the same world as everyone else. Kissing gaps and golden crosses.

[dt1010] 11/9/2017 14:56

I wonder be a happy bunny until I see this back where it should be at 330p+ given no change in forecasted end of year this year and also next year's projections which will put this on 12 times earnings.
Travesty to see it so sold off in the first place.

[topicel] 11/9/2017 14:46

Kissing is good enough, or must it fill fully? Too technical for moi but USD/JPY has risen 1% which is all I need to know to explain the weakness.

Not until midnight for the UN vote and potential dissension between US and China about oil sanctions on NK...with Kim adding his own small bit of rhetoric saying the Yanks will pay for any successful additional UN sanctions...

These are what matter most. Risk on/off. Gaps come and go.

Topicel

[juju44] 11/9/2017 14:41

kissing that gap now

[dt1010] 11/9/2017 14:37

I hate times like this. Makes me 'king angry to see it so range bound and slow.
Rant over!!

[february 30th] 11/9/2017 14:26

The Dollar is up, so it is perhaps not surprising that the PMs are down. On the other hand, the base metals are looking in good share, so I am not sure how much further PMs can fall.

[richkid71] 11/9/2017 14:16

gold and silver certainly not been in favour the past few days. Juju's crooks are all hard at work - maybe they'll take a well deserved two week vacation soon! Until metals pick up, HOC will either stall or continue to slide.

[juju44] 11/9/2017 13:59

Strange how the miners have fallen with the rise in gold. They are much too smart for me

[goldenshare888] 11/9/2017 09:44

My extra top-up funds coming soon, so fingers crossed.

Sods law says: HOC will be 300p+ again before I press the BUY button!

LOL :)))

[shakeypremis] 11/9/2017 09:22

If this gap fills - and it's very close to being filled now - I will probably buy some more at 269 or a little below hopefully, just as a short term trade.

[dt1010] 11/9/2017 09:19

That would be a good top up place.

If the reversal to $1300 comes the next target is $1400 and North of 300p for HOC.

[juju44] 11/9/2017 09:10

Gap is 269.9p to 272p . Almost there . Fall through that , turn up and then buy

[stevea171] 11/9/2017 08:56

A short lived cartel engineered back test for the PM's?
Trend is strongly up for both gold & silver.
Silver golden cross soon?

[topicel] 11/9/2017 08:39

Indeed juju, so back to 267p makes the trade long for the 316p all the more attractive...unless it is gonna be one of your 10% that doesn't make it?

Ever? Hardly likely so if this is an orchestrated sell-off we must expect it to be ending before the 267p as well perhaps? Boring and sideways between 270-290p for a while even?

What, HOC boring?!

Topicel

[juju44] 11/9/2017 08:30

not far off that gap at 267 now

[eeza] 11/9/2017 07:38

Crimms getting to work early.

[richkid71] 11/9/2017 07:34

Thanks for that DT. I'm not one for forecasts and charts, especially for anything that's manipulated. Just ask juju. They can post as many charts ab they like, it's just guessing.

[february 30th] 09/9/2017 19:25

Of course if and when PMs do do their moonshot, those who gain the most will be those in leveraged paper rather than physical. If you could get exposure to PMs through as simple as method as buying SLV or GLD, why would you want to have the aggravation of being in physical? The coin and bullion merchants have to keep emphasizing "physical".

[dt1010] 09/9/2017 18:59

Andrew Maguire - what a loser.

[stevea171] 09/9/2017 17:21

Not all the commercials ie not GS who possibly have a new agenda .... and there may be other reasons for miners to be hit.

Andrew Maguire Exposed 14 Days Ago ‘Vampire Squid’ Goldman Sachs Was Moving In For The Kill. Maguire Now Says Admission By Goldman’s Currie Is A Big Deal. September 09, 2017

Remarkably, London Metals trader Andrew Maguire exposed 14 days ago that ‘Vampire Squid’ Goldman Sachs was moving in for the kill. Maguire now says admission by Goldman’s Currie is a big deal.

Eric King: “Andrew, what a wild week. The comments out of Goldman Sachs, the ‘Vampire Squid,’ just as you predicted, breaking ranks with the other banks (in the gold market). And some of the comments coming out of (Goldman Sachs analyst) Jeff Currie, who has been the gold bear over there forever, essentially saying if you are in Comex futures contracts or ETFs and it hits the fan, it’s all over for you — you’re going to get torched.
It sounded like an interview with you and yet this was Jeff Currie from Goldman Sachs. Your thoughts on what you were thinking as you saw that hit the wire.”

Andrew Maguire: “Eric, you know this is no surprise to us… “In our last interview, two weeks ago, it was just one more occasion that you and I discussed what we had been trying to draw the attention to earlier this year, which is the first signs of the breakup of the Gold Cartel.

“The footprints are there to see. My large clients, and these include large sovereigns (countries that are huge physical buyers) are watching with great interest the split in the Cartel that is unfolding (and have been acting on this information now for at least three months). Eric, we spoke about this some months ago when we first saw the signs of the break in the Cartel ranks.

I am now absolutely certain that Goldman Sachs and two other bullion banks have allied themselves with China, and are stealthily moving net long physical gold. We know that JP Morgan has been long (physical) silver now for quite some time, but when we see the ‘Vampire Squid’ (Goldman Sachs) is stealthily positioning long in the $5 trillion a year FX gold market, we know they are mirroring what officials are doing quietly behind the illusion and misdirection — going long and setting up for a gold price revaluation.” — Andrew Maguire, August 25. 2017

This week, as you said, we got the first, albeit veiled, admission of this move by Goldman Sachs to go long physical vs paper. We got this admission from perma-bear Jeff Curie of Goldman Sachs:

“If buying gold, don’t buy futures or ETFs. Buy the real thing.” — Jeff Currie, Goldman Sachs

He’s even talking about (the dangers of unbacked gold) ETFs here. Currie continued:

“The lesson learned was that if gold liquidity dries up along with the broader market, so does your hedge, unless it’s physical gold in a vault, the true hedge of last resort.” — Jeff Currie, Goldman Sachs

These were his words and they are mind-boggling to most people. This Goldman Sachs statement is a big deal.

[juju44] 09/9/2017 15:16

Commercials have increased their PM shorts.They never lose as they are the crimms . Its why the miners are getting stuffed . Nuff said