Henderson Mrly. Share Discussion Threads

[jack1236] 16/9/2010 17:30

no1butler

you know all the people who worked for HML, I mean the person who answered the
phone must know whos been calling and from which companies.

[no1butler] 16/9/2010 17:15

hi duplicate,

we were told on the same day they stopped trading. No warning , no notice. The only inkling i had was reading all of the posts on here.

sorry i can't be of any more help.

[thefruits] 16/9/2010 17:05

mickas

Craig Povey the administrator told me the BOD had made a 7 figure offer for the company when I phoned him the morning the company was sold

I had phoned him as I wanted to establish if the shareholders had an chance of buying the IP

When I later that day discovered the web of deceit we had been spun and the structure AK had set up it was obvious it was game over

Effectively to outbid the BOD, we had to give more money to AK. Nobody wanted to do that, not even a penny.

I suspect he will offer you a stake in his new company once he's sold the IP to KMS and the KHV vaccine to whoever wants it. Whilst us mere mortals will be left with zilch

Some on here have lost their pensions, their life savings and basically everything

I hope AK and IP are happy with the destruction their theft has caused

tf

[duplicate book] 16/9/2010 16:49

no1butler.........thanks for getting in touch. You used the word 'officially'. Can I just ask if you, and the others, had any idea that you were going to end up losing your jobs in the weeks,or months upto the 8th? Cheers.

[no1butler] 16/9/2010 16:34

sorry can't help you there. I was never given that sort of information. I just got the job done that i was paid to do.

Sorry you guys lost so much - its thanks to you we were there at all.

We have been shafted as well , but not as much as you.

[johnwalton] 16/9/2010 16:34

I BET THE STAFF DID NOT NUMBER OVER 2 EXCLUDUNG DIRECTORS.

CLEANER AND BOOKKEEPER.

SHE MAY HAVE DONE BOTH JOBS

[chicken_george] 16/9/2010 16:29

Did the products actually exist no1butler? It's OK - you can spill the beans now.

[no1butler] 16/9/2010 16:27

duplicate book

in answer to question 5 of your earlier post. Staff were made redundant officialy on 8-9-10

[thefordprefect] 16/9/2010 16:19

remember preps and l-particle?


Posted: September 1, 2009
Henderson Morley selects NanoSight Instrumentation for Rapid Virus Titre Assessment
(Nanowerk News) NanoSight, manufacturers of unique nanoparticle characterization technology, announce that UK biotechnology company, Henderson Morley plc, is using nanoparticle tracking analysis (NTA) to quantify virus particle number for batch to batch control.
Henderson Morley is developing an exciting pipeline of anti-viral drugs and vaccines and biological products to fight a wide range of diseases in humans and animals. Their lead vaccine technology platform uses PREPS and L-particles which are virus-like particles derived from Human Herpes Virus 1 (HHV-1). These particles have the same size as herpes viruses, but do not contain viral DNA and are therefore sterile. Conventional viral quantification relies on the infectious yield of viruses but as these particles do not replicate, an alternate quantification technique had to be found.


Patent application title: BIOLOGICAL ADJUVANTS
Inventors: Ian Stuart Pardoe
Agents: CAESAR, RIVISE, BERNSTEIN,;COHEN & POKOTILOW, LTD.
Assignees: Henderson Morley PLC
Origin: PHILADELPHIA, PA US
IPC8 Class: AA61K3900FI
USPC Class: 4242291
Patent application number: 20090252763

is this all zero value?

[johnwalton] 16/9/2010 16:14

mickas

sorry for your loss

but if you new ak that well, how come you did not ask questions.

the only show in town with this is to try and prove that they have
been dropping untrue rns's into the market and get plod involved.

NOWT ELSE WILL WORK.

ADMIN IN THE DIRECTORS CORNER
NOMAD WILL NOT DIG HIS OWN GRAVE
DTI,FSA ARE ALL USELESS.

[trufflehound] 16/9/2010 16:12

Emailed intervet, this is reply.
thank you for your e-mail message. It is not the policy of Intervet/Schering-Plough Animal Health to disclose information with respect to past and pending collaborations and interactions with third parties other than to authorities. As we can not determine your connection with Henderson Morley from your e-mail and we will not respond to your question.
Yours sincerely,

Mark van Heumen
Managing Counsel Animal Health
Intervet International bv

Good luck to all, but think it`s to late.
Truff.

[spike9] 16/9/2010 16:03

Tf

What about SPAH/Intervet and the 97% effective vaccine. Either this is true or not. Either way things don't measure up. Either it is not worthless or it was binned and we should have been told.
How can they have broken no rules with all these statements from many parties giving trial results, income projections , progress on discussions etc etc. What was actually happening ? I don't understand .

[duplicate book] 16/9/2010 15:45

Hear what you're saying Fruits......Administrators appointed late afternoon 8th September, Contract to buy the assets of HML on their desk ready to be signed off AK/IP at 9.00am 9th September. I'm hearing something different!! Can you get the names of the 2 independent bodies that researched HML and advised the Admin that it was worthless, from your contact?

[thefruits] 16/9/2010 14:54

duplicste book

I'm overseas at the mo but I'll try and give a summary on what I understand re your questions

1) administrators asked 2 independent bodies to value business and the value is apparently zilch.
2) KMS and one other party were invited to tender to buy the business. Both decided against it. The other was not the white knight.
3) The only bid on the table was a 7 figure sum from AK, but the real cost for AK of buying the business was significanltly lower, perhaps only £25k ! This is because his web of companies etc suddenly put claims in that HML owed them money. Obviously not in the books as TB has laid out
4) The BOD HAVE bought the IP from the administrators and I presume are now hawking their wares around kMS etc for a pittance but enough to mean with zero overhead any royalties and upfront payments will go to them alone
5) As far as I understand the settlement made good all creditors so I presume redundancy (to AK & IP as well) was settled. Here's the clever bit, AK & IP pay £1m to buy HML, HML then pays AK & IP redundancy payment of lets guess, £800k between them ?

simples

As for Mike Dunne. Still not convinced we have the real deal here either. Unless (apologies if I'm wrong) Mike is a millionaire with squillions to invest, I think he might be just a little more sore about this. Also suspect he might have the grenade to blow up AK's little scam but the question is .. will AK buy him off ?

tf

[duplicate book] 16/9/2010 14:28

It may be correct that everything was carried out within the letter of the rules and regulations,however, that doesn't mean to say that what has happened is 'right'. There are a number of things that we need to be very sure about.

1. Are we happy that the appointed Administrators were fully aware of the business model, and had a comprehensive understanding of the 'products' that were attained by HML, in relation to their asset value to the wider market? Especially in view of the most recent interest by KMS, and the other unamed party, in the ICVT platform.

2. Are we happy that all relevant information pertaining to HML, its licences,patents etc was fully disclosed by the Directors, or any other associated person(s), to the Administrators, so that a fair value could be arrived at for the subsequent sale of part, or whole of the Company. Especially in view of the fact that, as has been mentioned on here,the Administrators have stated that the IP was 'worthless'.

3. In relation to the above point, what steps were taken by the Administrators to ascertain the true value of the IP, and did they approach any other interested parties to make them aware that any such IP was available 'for sale'?

4. Are we 100% sure that AK has bought the IP from the Administrators? If so, what exactly has he bought. Has he bought it personally,or through another business vehicle, (Maddison Animal Health)?

5. Does anybody know if those people employed by HML, (other than Directors, non Execs etc), are still working for HML,or have they all been made redundant and all research and business activities have ceased?

[johnwalton] 16/9/2010 14:23

tonychicken

I also have attended a couple of agm's[not hml].

They are a total waste of time.

I have had private conversations with fd's, ceo's...

The upshot being that they are always economical with the truth and
will alays paint a pretty picture.

Aim is a minefield.

Regarding The nomad.I spoke to this chap on several occasions and he
needs to go to church and get his soul washed.

[tonyhicken] 16/9/2010 14:16

GF

the answer to your question is YES i would attend any AGM if i had invested in that company and i was not happy with the way things were working out..


regards

[jack1236] 16/9/2010 13:25

spike

thats what maxine and the company broker were there for, to make sure the 'sting' was legal. The guys that could spill the beans are Croma etc.

[spike9] 16/9/2010 13:19

I cannot believe thst no rules have been broken. If not then it says a lot about their rules !

[ghost face] 16/9/2010 13:15

Tony,

I wish you would stop banging on about being the only bloody one that attended the agms. They were local for you, not so convenient for most holders. Let me ask you, if the agms were in London, Glasgow or Newcastle would you have attended???...or maybe we should only invest in companies local to us.

Stop going on about the agms and your sole attendance!!!!

GF

[jack1236] 16/9/2010 13:11

The problem is that everyone assumes money flows in the rightful direction, but in reality it flows in lots of different directions, maybe in directions that are
very suspect indeed, if you get my drift.

[chicken_george] 16/9/2010 11:10

Tony - and what exactly have you told the people at AIM? You can only have told them what you know which, (forgive me)but, judging by your posts over the previous years plainly is very little.

MP Dunne is needed to reveal some of the many nasties that are bound to be hidden beneath the stones. But I doubt very much that he'll reveal anything - despite his coming yesterday.

[tonyhicken] 16/9/2010 10:42

db having spoken to people at AIM they say no rules have been broken therefore its legal what AK/IP have done,so all shareholders can do is get even somehow.

regards

ps ajax my questions were straight forward,but at least i had the balls to turn up and ask them..HML stank which as we know is a reality now..i will say i met 2 nice guys in tb/tf while the ride lasted...