Hbos Share Discussion Threads

[letsgetbizzay] 16/12/2008 16:02

Just sold 12553 @ 73.3 having bought at 71.3 - if only I could time them all that well!

[rgolding1978] 16/12/2008 15:42

hbos just shot its load.

[boyblue] 16/12/2008 15:37

good timing Leopold555

[fatboy1nc] 16/12/2008 15:37

LoL, am i nice or what?

[mova] 16/12/2008 14:42

what is holding back HBOS - whilst lloy has moved up ????

[huffyuk] 16/12/2008 14:41

Not a bad entry point at all. I'm very long on the new group..

[leopold555] 16/12/2008 14:32

Just bought these again, hello comrades ;-)

[raweden] 16/12/2008 13:55

I sold my LLOY shares as well and reinvested in HBOS - seems a no brainer to me

[fatboy1nc] 16/12/2008 13:55

AliCat1... Poor old me??!!!!!! no way:(


dexdringle... Maybe someone's out there is holding this dog down by it's balls.

[dope007] 16/12/2008 13:51

Nor do I dexdringle which is why I sold my LLOY and bought HBOS yesterday which will give me 10% more LLOY group shares when they merge now.

[dexdringle] 16/12/2008 13:44

Given that it is a 'done deal', and that I will be getting 7,260 Lloyds Banking Group shares for my 12,000 HBoS, is there any reason why I should be interested in the HBoS share price still ? Especially given that, having bought HBoS for £4 each, I will need £6.60 on Lloyds to break even so I'm stuck in this for the (very) long haul and an not "trading" day to day ?

I still don't understand why HBoS is not trading at 0.605 x Lloyds but then I must be missing something. Both sets of owners have voted resoundingly "yes" so that's that. There will be no going back. Why would there be ?

[rdenton] 16/12/2008 13:19

someone is in the festive spirit!
lol



check it out on ebay

[cool hand kev] 16/12/2008 13:19

I've had 15222 HBOS SUB SHS added to my TDW account is this an option to buy the HMG 113P shares could someone enlighten me please?

[alicat1] 16/12/2008 12:05

fatboy1nc - 16 Dec'08 - 09:18 - 24217 of 24226
Wrightey.. i suggest you read back over 2 year on this BB.
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My observation, fatboy, is that over the past 2 years you have become increasingly unpleasant as your wealth has increased. Sadly this is often the way. Please take time to reflect on the things that really matter in life.

[fatboy1nc] 16/12/2008 11:15

chris001...

Was actually north of that at a place called Qalag... no holiday tho:(

Nice taxi drivers apart for the need for all that strong cologne.

[porridge3] 16/12/2008 10:38

shaf

got it, you can remove

[decoy] 16/12/2008 10:15

Hopefully the gap between the price now and the price at which HMG is buying shares in January will begin to close.

[shaf5] 16/12/2008 10:00

just bought some hbos at 70.8. Looking at Lloydstsb and the conversion rate HBOS are worth 77.4p. Not sure if it works that way as im sure LLoyds can fall or HBOS can rise but hbos do look cheap to me at the moment and interest rates are due to fall further which can only be a good thing for the banks

[chris001] 16/12/2008 09:49

Five-year taxpayer help for banks
Robert Peston 16 Dec 08, 08:23 AM The Treasury quietly conceded yesterday that the crisis undermining banks' ability to borrow from each other and from financial institutions could last for five years.

In fact, it's likely that banks' ability to borrow on wholesale markets will never recover to the boom conditions that characterised the few years before the summer of 2007.

Either way, the Treasury is trying to help banks adjust to a prolonged funding drought by amending the terms of the Credit Guarantee Scheme it announced in October - which allows banks to purchase a guarantee from taxpayers to cover the risk of default on what they borrow from banks and money managers.

The Treasury has announced that this scheme will now run for five years, up from three years.

Which, as I say, rather implies an abandonment of the Micawberish notion that something would turn up and that banks would one day wake up to find that they weren't being shunned any longer by institutions with big deposits to place.

Also, following pressure from the banks and the Tories, the Treasury has also significantly reduced the fee payable to it for having taxpayers in effect lend money to the banks.

It has done this by excluding from the calculation of the risk premium payable to taxpayers the great surge in the perceived riskiness of banks that took place in September and October.

In effect, the Treasury has converted the Credit Guarantee Scheme from an insurance policy, which was designed to provide comfort to markets that banks wouldn't collapse for want of access to funding, into a new and substantial source of finance for banks, to replace the funds that have disappeared with the de facto closure of wholesale markets.

Or to put it another way, the scheme has been redesigned in the hope that it will now help banks to raise money for lending to all of us.

That represents a fairly substantial policy shift. And it's slightly odd that the Treasury has announced this in a whisper, through a parliamentary written answer made by Ian Pearson, a junior minister.

So far, banks have raised just £20bn from the scheme in its previous more expensive form. If the repricing means they now borrow the full £250bn on offer, as well they now might, taxpayers would be underpinning a good deal of banks' mainstream lending.

We, as taxpayers, would in effect have replaced the shrunken wholesale markets.

In respect of how the financial economy works, that's about as big a change as it's possible to imagine: so it's a shame, perhaps, to keep that quiet.

UPDATE, 09:16 AM: Bankers are, predictably, whining that the fee for raising money under the Credit Guarantee Scheme hasn't been cut enough.

And they are right that it won't allow them to raise money cheaply enough for them to be able to lend to us at the much reduced interest rates the government would like.

So there is still something of a contradiction between ministers' rhetoric about the need for banks to cut the interest rates on mortgages and loans to small business and their actions.

Even so, the CGS reforms represent a significant policy shift - and it won't be the last initiative by the Treasury to underwrite lending to financial and to non-financial companies.

Taxpayers are the new wholesale financial market.

[shaf5] 16/12/2008 09:42

porridge email me on [e-mail]

[gc321] 16/12/2008 09:35

Does anyone know if Like RBS, ftse tracker funds have to stock up on HBOS after HMG buy their share of open offer in January? With RBS it was several hundred million shares that changed hands. Same happen to HBOS? Had a very positive effect on shareprice be it for just a few days....

[fatboy1nc] 16/12/2008 09:18

Wrightey.. i suggest you read back over 2 year on this BB.