Harvest Minerals Share Discussion Threads

[soulsauce] 08/1/2017 16:43

No that is not what I am saying at all Andy. I do not mind you interjecting when you have a relevant point. The interjection was alluding to me being worried which I am not.
Anyway let's bury the hatchet and move on.

[andy] 08/1/2017 16:17

Soul,

So, just to clarify, are you saying that when you converse with someone on a BB nobody else should ever interject and offer an opinion?

In otherwords, all your conversations are exclusive to just one person? And presumably you won't be interjecting in other people's discussions either? Is that correct?

I'm only asking because on a discussion board I've never heard of that before, I thought all discussions were general and open to everyone to contribute towards.


So you should be happy he's talking the price down.

An analogy about voting and weighing machines springs to mind....

[soulsauce] 08/1/2017 14:51

Thical?

I am glad you are a fellow bull Andy but as I said I was just in discussion with Talkman.

I am not worried in the slightest and will take advantage of any weakness due to a placing.

[andy] 08/1/2017 14:18

thical in your opinion?
soulsauce8 Jan '17 - 13:06 - 1844 of 1846 0 0
I'm sorry Andy you have me at a disadvantage, where did I say I was in anyway worried?

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Well why mention that someone is trying to drive the price down to 15p to buy in cheaper then? That is clearly a concern, or you wouldn't mention it.

You know and I know that value is generated in the longer term, and intraday price movement is just noise. You have been here long enough to know that, so why are you mentioning someone trying to buy in cheaper if it doesn't concern you?

Let him do it, good for him if he does, when the price goes back up you'll both make money! Where's the problem? If good news is released tomorrow he'll lose out, and that would be tough luck for him, it's what makes a market!


And I thought this is a discussion forum where anyone is free to comment, I wasn't aware that your conversation was exclusively between you two only, and how would I know that?

Have ADVFN changed the rules to prevent anyone making a comment in any conversation between two posters?

And if so, what sort of BB would it be if people weren't allowed to interject their opinion intoa current discussion?

You guys are really touchy here, attacking a fellow bull, this really is a first for ADVFN.....

[kreature] 08/1/2017 13:22

Talkman was referring to LM, and not me. That's how I read it anyway.

[whl2] 08/1/2017 13:11

Believe me, I'm no fan of kreature and had him filtered at one point, but he is within his rights to post that shareprophets comment on this site. Simply burying it and denying it's existance does shareholders no favours. This should not be a biased site where only positive comments are allowed. As much as he's a pain at times, kreature is welcome to post in my view. As a former meldex shareholder I've seen loads of rose tinted shareholders dismiss anything that is not positive. Lets keep it a balanced view with postings from both holders and shorters.

[soulsauce] 08/1/2017 13:06

I'm sorry Andy you have me at a disadvantage, where did I say I was in anyway worried?

And my conversation was with Talkman so why you had to butt in and allude to me being worried I am not sure.

It's like your argument with Charles Clore all over again :-/

[andy] 08/1/2017 12:41

talkman,

Interesting, so is it ethical for Shareprophets to post a buy recommendation in a stock?

So, if Lucian was long HMI, and wrote about it on Shareprophets, would that be ethical in your opinion?

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 12:35

I meant a BB

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 12:34

I have no problem with him posting privately on a BBC. That's his prerogative. It's when he uses a public site to benefit himself . It's totally unscrupulous. That's why it's not a genuine action or opinion .

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 12:32

I just find his action totally unethical . He is using a public forum to influence people and create doubt which might induce people to see their shares to benefit himself personally . Why else would he do it ?

[andy] 08/1/2017 12:15

talkman,

Well I happen to think he's being more honest by openly declaring his short position, which gives everyone reading the opportunity to base their view of his opinion on his open deceleration.

Surely candour is what you want?

People often accuse others with bearish views of being "short", when very possibly they aren't, as a way of alienating them from the thread, well his open declaration means there is no speculation about him being short, he's confirmed it!

Longs can choose to ignore his comments or not, as is their want. What's the problem with that?

In my experience he could post the most awful comments about HMI and nobody here would change their opinion of the company a jot, everyone's views here are entrenched, as they are on most threads on ADVFN.

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 11:46

I haven't said whether I hold shares or not neither have I expressed an opinion about the company, either .I have made an observation about a person who has a "short " position using the public platform of Shareprophets to help benefit his own position. The more people who sell on the basis of his biased opinion the more profit he makes . Say no more . He is totally biased and totally lacks credibility and objectivity. Why does not take up his short position privately and keep it to himself.

[kreature] 08/1/2017 11:41

Well LM uses ShareProphets, and you use ADVFN. More important are the questions that he raises. What about RV2?

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 11:30

Kreature . You miss the point . He's using Shareprophets to influence his own position
That's why he has no credibility . He's doing it for his own benefit . Same if someone is long and writes a bullish view of HMI . They are biased .

[andy] 08/1/2017 11:20

kreature,

Exactly!

It's different if you agree with the stance of the person who is posting!

[kreature] 08/1/2017 11:16

So using your rationale, would anyone with a Long position who says this is a Buy, have no credibility?

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 11:05

The troll is using the platform of Shareprophets to benefit his own position . Why else would he do it ? Altruism ? If he had no position you would perhaps listen to what he says - whether you agree or not . His 'short ' position destroys his credibility .

[andy] 08/1/2017 10:39

soul,

Why would you worry about someone hoping to get the price down to 15p to buy in again if you are a long term holder that believes in the company?

If there is value it will come out, and the numbers here in the longer term look quite compelling, so why worry about intraday noise?

Even if he does achieve his 15p buy price, it doesn't effect your shareholder value in the longer term, if the company delivers.

And if you do believe very strongly then it presents an opportunity to top up, surely a good thing?

[soulsauce] 08/1/2017 10:10

Talkman YP has also sold 50% of his holding and is wanting to get it back sub 15p so all this posting to cause trouble and make other holders nervous is for a reason.
I am sure if YP was still holding 100% he wouldn't be happily giving the troll bullets to fire.

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 10:06

This is the same guy who went short on Sound Energy ! Ummm.

[talkman2] 08/1/2017 10:05

I would take his comments seriously if he did not have a position . He's short . All his comments are made to benefit his own position .