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[nickb] 20/3/2018 15:57

Blue today😀

[nickb] 20/3/2018 15:45

The technical guys seem very good so I’m sure they will make the right choices.

Security may also come into it?

[_m_k] 20/3/2018 15:21

can be broken down in many different ways

something that needs a lot of thought, it's a big change, especially given what's at stake (live sports!), the tech has to be bullet proof

confident it's being managed in a good way, don't think any of their design choices have been questioned

news release hints at many applications e.g. blackbird viewer is an application, blackbird clipper is an application

perhaps new apps will just get bigger and bigger

could do it the captevate way, embedding player windows inside an html document structure, the timeline in captevate is implemented using html elements

however the blackbird clipper applicaiton sits inside the forscene backend web application (just like captevate) but it differs from captevate in that the clipping timeline is rendered bespokely (not as html elements)

would've thought the quickest/easiest way to implement the client in .js would be to just render forbidden's bespoke gui on to a blank html canvas but...

1. wonder whether the performance of .js is up to that (multicam must be taxing?)

2. it would not be in the spirit of html / responsive web apps

doing 2 would also provide maximum continuity re their existing user base (from a usability pov)

be interesting to see what happens

[nickb] 20/3/2018 14:06

MK
Interesting.

Captevate looked a good starting point for a very new Forscene if developed.

Might we see a new updated full java script version of Forscene at NAB perhaps under a new name within the Blackbird brand.

Or perhaps by a third party under licence!

[_m_k] 20/3/2018 13:24

yes the results confirmed the migration...

"In August 2017, Forbidden announced the launch of a java script video viewing application. This was the first application linked to the core strategy of moving our video applications to java script."

expect it will be largely the front end because the applet client talks to the server with http which is what the .js version will do.

seems 'vidlib' is a core part of the .js shift and any editor will be an application built on top of this:
hxxp://www.forbidden.co.uk/2017/08/21/forbidden-makes-a-strategic-move-to-java script/

it's following a similar development path as the original forscene, for a good few years all we saw were playback windows before the forscene editor arrived, much like we are seeing now with the blackbird viewer / clipper.

captevate was a combination of html and html5 canvas objects for the video playback, this deviates from the java applet gui which i believe renders everything onto a blank canvas (essentially rendering your own gui from the ground up). i wonder if there is to be a full .js editor whether it will take the captevate route or the applet (blank canvas) route. time will tell and does not make much difference to a user!

[nickb] 20/3/2018 12:48

MK
The java script version of Forscene seems to be taking a while I was thinking it was “just”(lol) the front end that needed work the back end would be the same.

[nickb] 20/3/2018 12:44

MK
Well said

[nickb] 20/3/2018 12:43

Avid has spent $500m in Cloud development over the last couple of years with little to show for it so far. Imho.

Our development has been done on a shoestring.

[_m_k] 20/3/2018 12:10

"All that the company has done over the last 18 years is to have an endless series of fund raising issues which have been used to pay Streeter and fellow directors handsome salaries"

patently untrue

"All based on hype"

nope!

"They have failed to produce anything which customers want to buy"

not true either!

"They launched Eva and Captevate with great fanfare but both appear to have failed and been shut down."

commercial nil points, so far

both not being promoted but both still work (not shutdown)

"Unless they finally start to achieve some sales the next large share placing must be coming soon ."

true

one and a half out of five

[nickb] 20/3/2018 11:48

Years of development by a very small technical team all done in Advance of the video industry markets need.

Industry is only now just starting to embrace Cloud.

Interesting times ahead.

[mcsean2164] 20/3/2018 11:19

Richard,

As far as I am aware for a long time SS took no salary. They have failed as you say but I give them credit for persistence. Let's hope persistence finally pays off!

[richard107] 20/3/2018 11:11

This company is a disgrace . All that the company has done over the last 18 years is to have an endless series of fund raising issues which have been used to pay Streeter and fellow directors handsome salaries . All based on hype . They have failed to produce anything which customers want to buy . They launched Eva and Captevate with great fanfare but both appear to have failed and been shut down.
Unless they finally start to achieve some sales the next large share placing must be coming soon .

[mcsean2164] 20/3/2018 10:47

NickB,

Weird the price went up on grant of options.

[bonio10000] 20/3/2018 10:42

chriscallen

I stand corrected - many thanks.

Hopefully Jens got all of them.

[nickb] 20/3/2018 10:05

Probably the new sales director.

Seems fair to me.

[chriscallen] 20/3/2018 09:59

The share option position is that the 2017 accounts show existing grants:
3,360,000 @ 6.0p
2,250,000 @5.375p

According to todays RNS there are now options over 6,215,000 - a difference of 605,000 of which IM had 400,000. So the balance of 205,000 probably went to the new hirings.

[nickb] 20/3/2018 09:28

What’s weird?

[mcsean2164] 20/3/2018 09:20

It weird isn't it? I wonder is it bots or something genuinely happening?

[bonio10000] 20/3/2018 09:12

Obviously the market is impressed by the constant granting of options at all time low prices.

[bonio10000] 20/3/2018 07:26

Great to see another 2.2m going to other staff members who downed tools last year.Good work team.

[bonio10000] 20/3/2018 07:22

Surprised Main, Lees and the NEDs haven't been helping themselves.

[chriscallen] 20/3/2018 07:09

Grant of share options:
Name: Ian McDonough
Title: Chief Executive Officer
Number of options: 400,000
Exercise price: 4.0p
Number of options held post grant: 2,400,000