Environ.Recycle Share Discussion Threads

[times104] 04/11/2010 12:41

T H may I ask would an ordinary, bog standard, simple sort of comma have sufficed?

[bluebelle] 04/11/2010 12:25

times104

Yes, I tend to agree with Teh Hampster, unless, that is, you intended to say that "'Tehy are flying orf the elves'" in which case, take this as a correction of your summation.


Hampster
I hope you approve of my use of teh odd comma in teh above.

[teh hampster] 04/11/2010 11:48

I would have used an odd comma in there, but otherwise it is acceptable.

[times104] 04/11/2010 11:40

Warala presumably you mean,

''Oh dear Oh dear is there any plastic hitting the road yet?''.

The word their is clearly an adjective whereas the word there is an adverb. They do have distinctly different meanings and should be used accordingly so as not to cause confusion.

Taking your question I believe you are trying to ask whether or not there are sales of the Ecoboards. I understand there are and to coin a phrase ''they are flying off the shelves''

Please correct me if my summation is incorrect.

[warala] 04/11/2010 11:25

Oh dear Oh dear is their any plastic hitting the road yet?

[bluebelle] 04/11/2010 10:21

Morning times 104

[potem] 04/11/2010 09:31

Bluebelle - 4 Nov'10 - 08:19 - 1183 of 1186

Clearly none of detail, strategy or insight are potem's strengths.
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You presumably mean "Clearly none of detail, strategy or insight is potem's strength."

[times104] 04/11/2010 09:13

Morning Jack...Morning Potem...Morning 2J...

If you can't beat them join them......

Go with the flow.....etc.

etc etc ad nauseum.

I guess.

[bluebelle] 04/11/2010 08:31

Morning Ron.

[ron atkinson] 04/11/2010 08:20

Morning Blue.

[bluebelle] 04/11/2010 08:19

jack horner - 4 Nov'10 - 00:20 - 1181 of 1182
Potem , I assume you mean post 1176?............not bluebelle post 1178!

Clearly none of detail, strategy or insight are potem's strengths.


Morning Hampster.

[potem] 04/11/2010 07:46

J H : Thanks for that. The quoted mid-line was 3.025 and you could buy in quantity between 3p and 3.165p all day which lead me to think that "well above 3p" might refer to something else which had been deleted by accident in the posting.

[jack horner] 04/11/2010 00:20

Potem , I assume you mean post 1176?............not bluebelle post 1178!
The reference in post 1176 is the ENRT share price ."well above 3p"
Good Lord...we are on the ENRT thread.

[potem] 03/11/2010 19:06

J H : I am more than prepared to accept that I have missed the obvious, but what were you referring to as "well above 3p" in post 1178?

[teh hampster] 03/11/2010 18:44

Morning Blue

[bluebelle] 03/11/2010 18:11

Another of dear old potem's high quality posts demonstrating his deep insight into the inner machinations of the company and of the City. And this is the guy who feels able to criticise other posters for the alleged trivial nature of their posts. Why on earth do people like that bother when they can enjoy the 'civility' on other threads?

Morning Ron.

[jack horner] 03/11/2010 17:51

well above 3p

[bluebelle] 03/11/2010 11:54

Yes of course they are, but they have not been able to match their shares with an institutional buyer. On this share I suspect most PIs have taken stakes for the long haul because they didn't get out in time, a classic case of a long term hold being a short term speculation that went wrong.

I can think of very few cases where an institutional holding was, in itself, bad for a company as such, although there are many where large institutional purchasing has had little effect on the share price as the shareholding itself does little to change the fundamentals of a company.

[phoenixs] 03/11/2010 11:37

bluebelle,
RBS are selling because they have been told to divest. Whilst institutional holdings are welcome, pi's who take sizeable stakes usually do so for the long haul. I have seen instances of institutional holdings which have actually been very bad news for company sp's.

[bluebelle] 03/11/2010 11:32

phoenixs - 3 Nov'10 - 11:19 - 1172 of 1172

Unfortunately it's not possible to put that sort of past behind you easily with the investment community. The main driver for institutional investment is the quality of a company's management - they are the people they are handing over their pensioners' (for example) money too. Any institution doing the most basic of due diligence on ENRT will not like what it sees, not least the judge's comments in the court case.

I think it's significant that even at these levels, institutions have been selling (for whatever reason) and it is PIs who are buying. (Please correct me if I'm wrong - but when was the last significant institutional purchase ?). I don't have any great brief for institutions per se - seems to me that they make just as many mistakes as PIs and when they do they're a lot bigger - but I don't like to see a share price supported solely by PI purchases - even if some of them are my own !!!

[phoenixs] 03/11/2010 11:19

bought 1m at 3p this morning.
Bluebelle, I don't disagree about short term but I do think that the management has put the psst behind and are now getting on with trying to enhance share holder value. We shall see.

[bluebelle] 02/11/2010 16:57

phoenixs - 2 Nov'10 - 12:50 - 1170 of 1170
Bloke with some money I suspect!!
All good news anyway.

phoenixs
The key issue is that what moves a share price in anything other than the short term, is Institutional buying and you are not going to get that, IMHO, with the current Management in place. If the recent large scale buying helps to bring that about that will indeed be good news. If not, NR could well be looking to raise money to take up his rights or looking forward to a hefty dilution !

[phoenixs] 02/11/2010 12:50

Bloke with some money I suspect!!
All good news anyway.
I hear about 16-17m to go with RBS. Considering they had 50m+ a few weeks ago it shouldn't take long before the rest is gone.

[bluebelle] 02/11/2010 11:48

Has anyone suggested who he is anywhere and/or what his objectives are ? If he were to use his stake to bring about management changes then things could begin to happen.