Empyrean Energy Share Discussion Threads

[michmcd] 06/6/2024 18:10

I genuinely hope you get many times your investment back. like about 20 to 30 times ! lol

[blakieboy7] 06/6/2024 17:10

I had the 334k

[bluehooperman] 06/6/2024 17:08

I managed to get another 200,000 :-) hopefully will pay off !!!

[blakieboy7] 06/6/2024 16:19

You didn't buy any today the JJ?

[currypasty] 06/6/2024 16:06

larger than average volume

[tomthedom] 06/6/2024 12:36

plenty moaning and groaning of late,,,
they should do this,,,
they should do that,,,
the BoD will say nothing until news,,,
shareholders can do nothing,,,
shareholder revolt???,,,
lol,,,
lots of complaining,,,
how many turned up to quiz them at AGM's?,,,
one person?,,,
can't have it both ways,,,
forget it and move on,,,

[odillon] 06/6/2024 11:38

Well said AA

[aberdeenandy] 06/6/2024 11:26

Odillon

Agreed. The fact that there has been no real info on the specifics of the fraud really is unacceptable and could even be breaching directors fiduciary duties to shareholders. It looks like there could be gross negligence by someone sending money to a fraudsters account without first verifying the account was bona fide.

How do we even know lessons have been learnt and key personal have attended fraud awareness training?

Yes mistakes happen but the silence is shocking and in my view amounts to brushing a serious error under the carpet. Hiding behind ‘stayed’ litigation (if that is the case) is weak management.

Man up and make a proper statement.

[odillon] 06/6/2024 10:29

Curry, whether the money is long gone or not I agree with you that there should be verifiable evidence laid out for shareholders as to what happened. I would like to see evidence of the Court proceedings and confirmation of whether or not there is any money in the bank account that EME assert was frozen in the Court proceedings. Aberdeen Andy may well be right that the money cannot be recovered, but I believe that the shareholders have a right to proper disclosure given the amount of money lost. If I was working for a company and I said to my colleagues I'm terribly sorry but I've lost 2 million, I've done what I can to retrieve it through the courts, but nothing doing I'm afraid and then write it off a while later - I can't imagine that my colleagues wouldn't check that what I was saying was true.

As mentioned previously I am not stating that EME have not told the truth about what happened, but I believe that they need to provide verifiable evidence that they have told the truth and they need to be accountable for what happened.

[cmackay] 05/6/2024 12:14

#54942
Fully agree, JJ. nothing sophisticated or even new about the whole fiasco.

Now if you want to know about a sophisticated fraud, look no further than July 4th. Millions are going to be tricked into believing that they have a say in the governance of the UK. Now that's what I call a scam!

[oilforex] 05/6/2024 09:20

I gave up on these a long time ago. A mistake being wed to a share. A big profit was made on these a couple of times in the past... But it seems so long ago. I've probably sunk most of the profit back in over time as it's sunk lower and lower. At best I expect I have made nothing from these relatively, apart from the value left in the ever shrinking holding I still have. On the upside I'm not expecting much more than a nice dinner and a few bottles of wine rather than the early retirement villa I'd once anticipated if the glimmer of success here had come to fruition.Ok the downside wouldn't be surprised to check in one day and find we are bankrupt or some director scam is unearthed.

[showme01] 05/6/2024 08:36

It's long gone Curry but nobody was accountable???

[currypasty] 05/6/2024 07:56

ask for crime number to check details?

[showme01] 05/6/2024 07:12

How to mitigate fraud risk? Send £100 to make sure before sending a small fortune. A normal person would do this. Where are the financial controls? Shocking, yet board still on huge salaries for what they do or don't do more to the point.

[aberdeenandy] 04/6/2024 23:12

The missing 2m would have been out of reach in a dodgy jurisdiction like Nigeria within 48hrs. Such places don't take any notice of international tracing court orders as they're totally bent. The Co's the money passes through would likely be shell co's with complex ownership structures (probably offshore nominee) with no assets. The whole injunctive relief tracing would have been a complete waste of time and money amounting to window dressing to put off announcing the money is lost/written off.

Sh1t happens and I have a degree of sympathy for them as these fraudsters are sophisticated. The normal scam in cases like this is called Email compromise fraud where the fraudster mascaarades as the intended recipient and tells EME their bank details have changed etc etc. There are variants but that's the basic gist of large sum interceptions.

What troubles me is that the Directors don't have the balls to come clean and give a definitive update.

Anyway I used to work in fraud and saw cases like this all the time.

[blueblood] 04/6/2024 16:57

Cheers mich

[michmcd] 04/6/2024 16:30

Ive tried and no response. Even the most hardened of us are getting hacked off with him now. News is required - moreso its a legal obligation.

[blueblood] 04/6/2024 15:48

Anyone been in contact with Kelly asking wtf is going on with Topaz? He's long stopped replying to me though as told a few home truths about Jade & the missing $2m!

[coiin stein] 04/6/2024 15:28

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