Eden Research Share Discussion Threads

[supersonico] 01/6/2016 18:51

Great to hear frothys still unconvinced of EDEN fraud otherwise he'd be telling us that Shore cap were acting with wilful Blindness or deliberate ignorance instead of the usual flowery evasive jibberish.

[mandatory] 01/6/2016 00:15

Sadly I can't see what our two little troll maggots are posting as they are in my troll filter.

They do seem to post an awful lot for a pair of troll maggots who have no financial interest in the company.

Looks like between them the two troll maggots are posting as much as all the ostriches.

You have to hand to to them - if nothing else the troll maggots are hard working.

And with nothing but our best interests at heart. I will sleep peacefully knowing this.

Bless their little troll maggot cotton socks...

[quazie12] 31/5/2016 13:40

Cant say I've ever seen many AIM company websites with much more than the usual optimistic BS. Sometimes its still there the day the Receiver walks through the front door.However Gem youre clearly the expert and a believer, I'm not on here to persuade the likes of you anyway but like SK, as a counterbalance to usual ramper guff. Live and let live mate.

[quazie12] 30/5/2016 11:49

Sorry Redhill but all I can comment upon is what the company releases to us by way of announcement or of course lack thereof.

Aren't you just s wee bit concerned about the lack of real news coming out of Eden in terms of milestone payments/licencing agreements/shipments ?

[redhill9] 30/5/2016 10:55

Has anyone else noticed that quazie12 never posts anything original, he merely repeats what SK has posted?

If SK posts that Eden is managed by the giant lizard people from planet Zog (as surely he will claim at some point) then just watch quazie12 re-post it..........

[gemstar2] 30/5/2016 07:42

He will if his crops yield more

All share valuations are based on estimates of future earnings

[quazie12] 29/5/2016 23:41

Spot on SK. I just cannot get over the fact that someone gets away with outrageous valuations based on science fiction, esp when Eden themselves will be exceedingly lucky to hit £3m gross revenues in 2017. Wonder how sales of their first shipment is coming along ? It's one thing believing your own hype and bs, it is a completely different proposition getting a Greek farmer to stop using what already works and start paying through the nose for some Eco friendly more expensive version. It's like asking someone on benefits to buy organic, it won't happen.

[sweet karolina] 29/5/2016 13:14

NPVs are the easiest thing to fake going. You just make up whatever figures you want, apply a discount factor then add the all up and hey presto you come up with whatever value you want. Terpentech has no money to develop and market any products, it has been burning cash for years and all of a sudden it is going to generate future sales - dream on.

Eden does at least have some products on the market, the trouble is there are a load of other products already established and it will take years of burning more cash before they achieve the projected 5% market share and even then they will still be burning cash at PLC level - their own figures say that.

[supersonico] 28/5/2016 13:50

Multibaggio Stonkiccio

[gemstar2] 28/5/2016 13:07

Ausgezeichnet!!

[sweet karolina] 27/5/2016 13:59

On a different scale, but the QPP HIMEX panama pump shows what happens in the end and how long it all takes to happen:



The single most important factor in whether to invest is whether you can trust the management. You really can't trust management who commit fraud, even relatively small ones, as you do not know what other lies they are telling and you do not know when it will come back to bite.

All the overly optimistic broker forecast will also come back to bite when sales of 3AEY disappoint massively - it is already clear that the market is already crowded and missing the boat with regard to getting the product into the 2016 catalog in Italy will not help them make inroads into that market. It will be interesting to see just how much of that placing cash is left at 30 Jun, especially when management award themselves big pay rises from the proceeds of fraud.

[quazie12] 27/5/2016 07:45

Cheers SK God knows how someone put that valuation on the Terpenetech holding ?For what it is worth I am considering making some enquiries on that front with the company direct. If anyone from Livingbridge is looking in here perhaps they could save me some time and effort and share their extensive due diligence knowledge and enlighten PIs further.This issue was pretty much the deciding factor for me to offload my entire holding (some of which was acquired back in 2006/7) so as a former long term holder I really would like some closure on this issue. So far none of the company trolls on here have put forward anything of any meaning whatsoever unless of course it was posted up in Welsh.Q12

[supersonico] 26/5/2016 22:21

Hey ewynnog 100 diwrnod a mwy, dim FRC a chyfarwyddwyr prynu. Yn amlwg a ysbrydolwyd gan eich dyn ar cast bonws dyn pawb .. diolch o bob EDEN investors..keep iddo ddod.
perswadiol

[lr2] 26/5/2016 16:33

First share purchase by Robin Cridland. Alex Abrey granted a nice lot of 5 year options also.

[jr_] 26/5/2016 16:20

Your right it is a shame they didn't make it into the catalog.

It is true a lot of farmers use what they know. I suppose it could boil down to price like most things. Although, I would like to think the savvy farmers would clock on quickly. After all, a lot of pesticides are linked to diseases and are killing bees. Eden's products should sort that problem.

The panama pump... well we could discuss it for a while I am sure. IMO I can only surmise that most companies use creative accounting to some extent. The panama situation takes the creative accounting theory to a whole new level.

[sweet karolina] 26/5/2016 14:09

Shame 3logy did not make it into the 2016 catalog. The rest are there:



Farmers use what they know works.

How happy are you about the Panama Pump fraud? Farmers won't care but it is just one of many black clouds on the horizon.