Eden Research Share Discussion Threads

[hillofwad] 30/3/2016 10:29

SK The problem with biased posters with hidden addendas is that whatever news is dished up no matter how postive it is they twist it The thing about ostriches is they have a very powerful kick and can boot some of this into the long grass as Linvngbridge have shown Why do you think Livingbridge have put in £2m You cant accuse them of being friends and family,dodgy share dealings or any dirt?

[supersonico] 30/3/2016 10:08

Livingbridge is an independent private equity investor and our senior team have been working together for well over ten years.
Since 1995 we have invested in more than 100 businesses, and currently have £1.5bn funds under management (as at 31 December 2015).

You would think with that sort of experience they would have done proper DD.

They seem to think the companies they invest in are growth companies.. don't they realise this is going to 0 pence. when they say Senior I assume they're really old and out of touch..
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Fools the lot of them.

[sweet karolina] 30/3/2016 09:58

Q12

The placing could either be done at a lower price or for a lesser amount. It is not clear from the RNS whether the whole thing is conditional ie Livingbridge have said our money is conditional on you raising the rest or whether they will go with their bit anyway and the rest gets raised if they can.

If the bucket shops can flip in the next 2 days then they will take up the placing if they can't then there will be a shortfall. Either way anyone buying above the placing price is a mug.

[supersonico] 30/3/2016 09:41

Yes I'm sure you would not describe a strategic investment by the well respected Livingbridge with member on the Board as a deeply discounted bucket shop placing.

I could be wrong. hxxp://ww .livingbridge.com/

Another company that does it's due diligence and completely misses all the issues raised by TW.

WOW what are the chances of that?

I'm looking forward to the Shore cap/ Livingbridge complicit in EDEN fraud Man up Queenie bearcast and Frc letter with 12hr follow up lucky Tom reply.

I think I deserve another point. TW 0 / SS 5

[hillofwad] 30/3/2016 09:32

Q. Not surprising with delays in authorisation and getting product in the market. sstill unproven that there is sufficent demand at the coalface and income streams I am much heartened by the £2m injection by Livingbridge a well respceted VC company with an interesting portfolio and known for their due diligence If Eden fiancial postion was so perilous they should have been able to negotaite a placing at sub 10P

[quazie12] 30/3/2016 09:28

SKDo you know how a Placing such as this actually works ? I note the preamble is that Eden "has raised" the £2.6m but it is not underwritten albeit Shore will endeavour to get the shares away at full price 10.25p. Does that mean they have no guarantee of getting the full sums "raised" ? Regards Q12

[sweet karolina] 30/3/2016 08:36

Well a nice bit of Jam today - a discounted placing that is not a done deal and could end up being done cheaper if the share price falls too much.

Smart move to sell when you did Q12 the only thing that was not predictable was the timing.

I did think they would hold out until they had some news to ramp the placing on. Clearly no good ramping news on the horizon.

Interesting that they need to raise so much, shows how little faith they have in those wildly optimistic revenue predictions. I reckon Net Current Assets position was quite a bit worse than predicted too.

Why do people think TW has nothing better to do than research Eden for them? Hopefully he will comment on todays placing in a bearcast later. Will anybody listen? Probably not.

[quazie12] 30/3/2016 07:42

HillofwadAny thoughts on why the share price might have retreated by more than half in recent months ? Is this the TW shorting campaign of the last 8 weeks, others maybe dumping "windfall" shares, investors running for the exits in spite of all this great news ?Q12

[hillofwad] 30/3/2016 07:33

SK You were right about thep lacing I agree that the milestone payments s were signs of commitment not significnat cash boosts Shore Capital proving their worth bringing in a significant investor with a place on the board Great news
SK Strange indeed that you feel market research in his own backyard as if this carries little importance to the success or failure of the company .you say he ha sbetterthings to do but sends an inordiante amount of time chasing Eden You really do change your comments with the windAs Nick has pointed out alitle early and unlikely to be adda lot of sales to other problems facing Greek wine growers face

[loverat] 30/3/2016 06:44

Wey

I'm wondering if the lawyer's clerk was standing in the chimney - and the bricks landed on his head?

It might explain his aggressive behaviour. It is always possible that SK's behaviour here results from a similar trauma.

In his case, there are delusions and he claims to have a superior knowledge of the law. He insists that all his legal complaints be dealt with by the Law Society. I have told him that the Law Society do not deal with complaints but he simply does not accept it.

I also had to tell him some time ago when he was harassing another AIM CEO that he could be opening himself up to legal action. Again he was having none of it - insisting that he was free to harass who he liked and that his defence would be based on the fact his allegations were truthful.

There is no reasoning with these folks. The courts are full of these amateurs representing themselves in person.

[sweet karolina] 30/3/2016 05:38

weywey,

Your lawyer's clerk should have contacted forbes solicitors - one of loveprat's many aliases. The usual routine is Loveprat spins a load of pseudolegal claptrap then forbes comes on pretending to be a real solicitor and lambasts anyone who dares to challenge the pseudolegal claptrap. Trouble is Loveprat gives himself away by not changing user names when he should. One of his other aliases is powells workwear, who lost a fortune on TXO because he thought he was too clever to listen.

[sweet karolina] 30/3/2016 05:32

hilofwad

Have you e-mailed TW to ask him? He did phone a distributor in Greece when the shipment was first announced. The distributor said that the shipment had not arrived and he had a load of other products that would do the job just as well. TW is actually on holiday with his wife in Crete at the moment, rather than his hovel on the mainland. I suspect he has better things to do, but a polite e-mail from a genuinely concerned investor might get him to make some enquiries or he could give you the phone no and you could try for yourself.

But seeing as nobody listens to TW, because he is a pizza boy and a failed CEO, ugly, made some bad tips as well as a lot of good ones, never been wrong when he has called a fraud, but that was just luck wasn't it, surely your own research would be better.

I take it you could find nothing about MevaloneT in Greece either. How strange! What about Spain and Italy? the marketing campaign must be taking off there. Farmers are very conservative people and will take a lot of convincing to try something new.

Will we see 2015 accounts today like last year?

Will there be jam tomorrow on Nematodes? or will that agreement just expire with noting happening despite Sean Smith's wonderfully confident statements about global sales nearly a year ago?

All very exciting stuff.

[nick rev] 30/3/2016 00:15

The dust will be gathering at the moment as it is not yet our season in Greece.

It will soon be though, and hopefully our time will be coming.

Botrytis is a summer problem.

[hillofwad] 29/3/2016 19:39

SK I have But we have our own little sleuth replete with Bermuda shorts and HawaianShirt on the premises so to speak At the end of the day if the product isnt selling they are going to be toast so I would have thought old Tommers would leap at the chance of doing a bit of sniffing locally as its with the Greek distributors K& N Efthymiad Especially if the product is gathering dust and he can lash the BODS with some facts and figures

[weyweyumfozo] 29/3/2016 19:11

Loverat,

I know the type - that reminded me of a lawyer's clerk (he thought his job title would scare us) who tried to claim against the contractor we were using to do trenching works in the road outside his house. A brick allegedly fell down his chimney. He spent two years escalating his complaints through the gov. and up to political level. He tried to get a colleague sacked for putting the phone down on him. He got absolutely nowhere.

After a few years we had worked out a ratio of loons encountered/person living in the area of each contract. I can't remember if it was 1 in 30 or 1 in 100.

[sweet karolina] 29/3/2016 17:59

Just wasted half an hour trying to find some mention on MevaloneT on anything other than a financial website rehashing the RNS.

How is anyone going to know to buy it if there is no web presence?

Maybe a keen little ostrich can do better than me and find some links that a farmer might visit that mentions the new Eden wonder product and where to buy it.

[sweet karolina] 29/3/2016 17:15

hillofwad
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What would be useful is to hear from the forensic researcher TW is how Edens product has been received and selling in Greece Fairly simple exercise for him to conduct and the facts would be useful

Why don't you try doing some research of your own. Surely the redestos website must have loads about the new wonder product MevaloneT see what you can find and post links so everyone can admire them.

[weyweyumfozo] 29/3/2016 15:23

quazie12,

our conversation started after I asked you if you used to be qazwsx123 (who I filtered many years ago), and went on from there.

I haven't yet had a reason to talk directly to Loverat.

Edit: His posts are of a more general nature and I do find them interesting.

[quazie12] 29/3/2016 15:03

WW

Loverat says he has no holding.

Clearly he is saying all the right things as far as you are concerned so that's fine ???

[weyweyumfozo] 29/3/2016 14:52

Fair enough quazie.

you do have a hell of a lot to say for a non holder though.

[supersonico] 29/3/2016 14:50

Listen to more Paul Simon hits for starters.

[quazie12] 29/3/2016 14:48

SuperAt least you're being honest on that front ! As for crusty farts, any tips on how to produce one ?

[quazie12] 29/3/2016 14:45

Wey weyNo prob