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CRS Crystal Amber Fund Limited

77.50
0.00 (0.00%)
Last Updated: 08:00:00
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Crystal Amber Fund Limited LSE:CRS London Ordinary Share GG00B1Z2SL48 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 77.50 76.00 79.00 77.50 77.50 77.50 0.00 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt -2.14M -5.58M -0.0723 -10.72 59.75M
Crystal Amber Fund Limited is listed in the Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker CRS. The last closing price for Crystal Amber was 77.50p. Over the last year, Crystal Amber shares have traded in a share price range of 61.50p to 90.00p.

Crystal Amber currently has 77,099,500 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Crystal Amber is £59.75 million. Crystal Amber has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -10.72.

Crystal Amber Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
25/6/2021
08:58
Only commentary I've seen so far:


"Small cap activist Crystal Amber threatened by activist with discontinuation
Friday, 25 June 2021, 7:36 am

You don't see this very often: a well-known activist fund being targeted by another activist for poor performance.

Well, that's just happened to old Richard "Bernie" Bernstein, the ex Schroders scribbler that set up Crystal Amber to invest in and shake up British small cap companies.

When he started he out Bernstein blazed a bit of a trail with a few succeses but recently he hasn't had much luck, with a few of the names in his portfolio really performing terribly, such as Hurricane Energy.

Now, though, Saba Capital Management has turned up with 25pc in Crystal Amber and written a letter to Bernie threatening to vote to against the Continuation Vote. Below is the link to this morning's statement:



Not much is known about Saba but there is a fund of that name set up by an uber punchy Deutsche Bank trader called Boaz Weinstein, who made a fortune from last year's market rout in March and April.

Watch out Bernie!"

spectoacc
25/6/2021
08:55
To me it seems morally repugnant to short stocks and then vote to wind up an IT so that IT has to dump those stocks and trash the share prices.
rcturner2
25/6/2021
08:44
ok thanks specto. Will hold and wait for now.
kadvfn1
25/6/2021
08:39
Still not sure what Saba get for all this effort - have they shorted all the listed holdings, in proportion? Done some ALM, what about DLAR & EQLS?

Do they get puny stakes in the two unlisteds, and is that their profit?

Or do they force CRS to sell in the market, which crashes all the s/ps, and close their shorts into that?

Need to see the full letter from Saba, and what CRS's room for manoeuvre is.

spectoacc
25/6/2021
08:09
They seem to be spinning it as reorganisation, but simple fact atm is that continuation vote will fail. Perhaps in specia 25% of the holdings to Saba, and try to continue the remainder in a new co?

Can't see there'll be anywhere near NAV from a forced sale.

spectoacc
25/6/2021
08:07
What do we think? My original thought is that it's more likely to be a reorganisation rather than full sell off as DLR has a lot of upside potential atm.
kadvfn1
25/6/2021
08:03
this was a busted flush long ago

last one please turn the lights out

sentimental rules
25/6/2021
07:21
" Yesterday afternoon, a letter was received by the Fund from Saba Capital Management, L.P. ("Saba"), which holds more than 25 per cent. of the voting rights of the Fund, to inform the Fund that Saba will be voting its ordinary shares against the Continuation Vote and that, accordingly, the Continuation Vote will not pass."


So CRS going to "..reorganise, reconstruct, or wind up the Company following the Continuation Vote not being passed at the next Annual General Meeting..".

Saba have done them - they'll doubtless ask for inspecie to cover their shorts. If a full sell-off, no idea how they'll get shot of the unlisted two, nor HUR, nor ALM, nor others. Isn't a single fully liquid co - not considering size of holdings (eg DLAR 14% of co, EQLS 22.4% of co).

Can't say it's not the right thing tho.

spectoacc
18/6/2021
17:04
CRS sold its £5m holding in Redde for a heavy loss a few months ago at around 170 - 180p, after their activist intentions were rebuffed.

Redde is currently 385p, up 120% from their selling point.

CRS were wrong with their overpriced purchase, wrong with their activist intentions and wrong with their selling point. We all get things wrong sometimes, but Bernstein is making a career out of it.

It is time this vehicle for director self interest was wound up.

No position

flyfisher
16/6/2021
06:59
GID 17.7p/share, Board Intelligence 4.2p/share, "Other" 14.5p/share (inc the disappearing HUR). On a c.100p share price vs c.129p NAV, not sure there's any trade here. Agree you'd need a strong view on GI Dynamics (either worth a lot more, or worthless) to be taking the punt. Figs from last month's NAV.

Perhaps flip side is there's c.80p in DLAR & EQLS, so the downside isn't huge. But neither's the upside for a complicated trade shorting the holdings. And the discount to NAV for the performance isn't nearly high enough IMO.

spectoacc
16/6/2021
00:48
The activist about to get activised? Kick the manager out and get the trust paid out in specie. Use the stock to close the short positions and you should have a nice risk-free profit...in theory. CRS are shortly about to get wiped out on HUR, either by D4E swap or insolvency, which could be the catalyst they need for shareholders to vote out the trust management.

The problem is that you have stuff like GI Dynamics in there that no one could realistically value or want to hold long term. The arb relies on stuff like this paying out not just the likes of DLAR. Not sure I'd take that bet!

dangersimpson2
15/6/2021
21:27
See the FCA's short position disclosures. Saba are short 2.2% De La Rue, 1.2% Allied Minds. The only UK stocks where they have notified short positions. They're probably going to try to open-end CRS.
charlie
15/6/2021
19:06
Saba capital up to 24% Takeover on the cards ? Question is what do they see that nobody else does ?
bobonumber1
25/5/2021
16:14
They've previously got round cash shortages by converting some of the positions to CFD (at 10% margin). May do that again if confident (& when are they not - perhaps when looking at the ten year performance).
spectoacc
25/5/2021
16:06
Expect a disposal of stock in De La Rue after results are released tomorrow, no cash available for Crystal Amber buy backs let alone the Management Fees and charges which ultimately end up in the pockets of the poorly performing management who squandered so many millions on the always indebted Hurricane!! Equals share price under pressure while this continuing liquidity persists! Meantime NAV discount is illusory!!
cricketcrazy
20/5/2021
11:20
Regardless of any profits in the past, recent mistakes on HUR seem to be unending. Not just the initial purchases but buying recently when the board had already indicated that the restructuring would severely reduce shareholder stakes in the company.

HUR say:

As at the date of this Explanatory Statement, one major shareholder has held discussions with the Plan Company, but this shareholder has not undertaken, or given any indication that it would be willing, to provide additional financial support sufficient to dispense with the need for the Restructuring. Another major shareholder indicated to the Plan Company's nominated advisor that it would not be prepared to enter into confidential discussions regarding an unnamed company, being the Plan Company, that would involve the sharing of inside information in respect to that company and during which the identity of the Plan Company would have been disclosed. Since the launch of the Practice Statement Letter on 30 April 2021, this major shareholder has requested the resignation of both the chairman and the senior independent Director of the Plan Company. Both Directors retain the full support of the Board.

So it seems, according to HUR, Kerogan refused to put extra cash in and CRS refused to enter into any discussions that would take them inside, and hence HUR were unable to discuss any options for CRS to refinance them. With this as the background, I doubt CRS will be able to prevent a court from deciding the restructuring plan was the only option.

Then the requisition of the General Meeting to remove all the directors gives 28 days for HUR to call the meeting by which time the plan will be approved by the court and the newly-appointed directors will come in just in time to implement the restructuring or call in the administrators.

HUR clearly not covered themselves in glory, but CRS seem to have made a lot of very preventable errors here.

dangersimpson2
20/5/2021
10:32
Agreed. As for Hurricane Energy, I wish I'd banked £43 million in profits!
"Since investing in Hurricane, the Fund has realised profits of £43 million."

agnes
20/5/2021
08:01
These are the top 4 holdings of the company with their current value:

De La Rue plc 57.5p
Equals Group plc 21.6p
GI Dynamics Inc. 18.0p
Allied Minds plc 13.9p

These four add up to 111p so you are already getting a 10% discount from these 4 with all other investments thrown in for free. Hurricane Energy is a red herring and irrelevant to the valuation of this company.

rcturner2
19/5/2021
13:51
@edwardt - CRS certainly been wrong on HUR, consistently. Can't blame them for not wanting to get wiped out in the D4E tho. But if they didn't like management, the time to call an EGM was long ago.

Seems to be a pattern - CRS punt something (be it Northgate, DLAR, ALM, HUR), it goes wrong, they average down, it goes more wrong, they eventually kick up a stink.

Unconvinced the discount's large enough here. Effectively paying fees (2% pa) for a portfolio you could replicate yourself (ex the unlisteds), and in sizes you could get out of again. Few if any of CRS's holdings are sellable if/when things go wrong (eg 14% of DLAR, 23% of EQLS, 21% of ALM).

And to top that, the stock-picking seems particularly poor. S/P where it was a decade ago.

spectoacc
19/5/2021
07:58
While totally agree with the requested action to hold the failed management at Hurricane responsible, what about the responsibility of the fund itself in its repeating support of a failure of investment? Someone taking that stupid investment decision to be sacked or fee deducted?
riskvsreward
19/5/2021
07:50
being wrong and knowing the company has value but needs the brooms at the top changing is different. i like his gumption.
edwardt
19/5/2021
07:19
Wouldn't it be better to just admit you're wrong, and move on?


"Since 2013, the Fund has been a shareholder in Hurricane. To enable Hurricane to commence and continue its workstreams, the Fund was, on three separate occasions, asked to provide capital to Hurricane. Each time, the Fund responding favourably, investing a total of more than £25 million. The board of Hurricane had previously presented the company as a strategic asset of national importance. However, it has failed to reconcile its earlier estimates of the value of Hurricane's West of Shetland portfolio with its latest, downbeat assessment."


"Requisition of General Meeting


Hurricane Energy plc, the UK based oil and gas company, announces that it has received a requisition notice (the "Requisition Notice") from Crystal Amber Fund Limited pursuant to section 303 of the Companies Act 2006 (the "Act"), requiring that Hurricane's board (the "Board") convenes a general meeting of shareholders for the purposes of considering the following ordinary resolutions:


1. That Steven McTiernan be removed from office as a director of the Company with immediate effect.

2. That Dr David Jenkins be removed from office as a director of the Company with immediate effect.

3. That John van der Welle be removed from office as a director of the Company with immediate effect.

4. That Sandy Shaw be removed from office as a director of the Company with immediate effect.

5. That Beverley Smith be removed from office as a director of the Company with immediate effect.

6. That John Wright be appointed as an additional director of the Company with immediate effect.

7. That David Craik be appointed as an additional director of the Company with immediate effect.."

spectoacc
14/5/2021
09:21
Latest NAV down 10.3p on disastrous Hurricane Energy loss, no cash, disproportionate portfolio dominated by De La Rue - 45% of total portfolio. Time for the largest shareholders to take action!
cricketcrazy
01/5/2021
08:39
I think the fight there has just begun.
edwardt
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