Condor Gold Share Discussion Threads

[jeanesy2] 05/8/2013 08:41

it is time the price moved up though !

[warmsun] 05/8/2013 08:39

volume 130k.....

edit. 141k

[warmsun] 05/8/2013 08:33

nearly 90k volume now...and we are up :)

[usmcgs] 05/8/2013 08:13

Jeanesy .... as you say patience

Volume almost 41k already

[jeanesy2] 05/8/2013 07:32

Patience still needed, where is our news ?!!

[warmsun] 03/8/2013 10:45

Looked like a rolled trade to me jeanesy? Didn't move the share price either...here's hoping for news his week.

[jeanesy2] 03/8/2013 08:10

Nice to see a couple of 10k buys at the end, POG back above 1300. Now let us hope that we finally have the long awaited news next week and it is good... please !!

[saturdaygirl] 02/8/2013 14:10

Yes muted US job figures , another nail in the coffin .




Some light reading for the afternoon ..

Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

There is one vitally important number that everyone needs to be watching right now, and it doesn't have anything to do with unemployment, inflation or housing. If this number gets too high, it will collapse the entire U.S. financial system. The number that I am talking about is the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries.

When that number goes up, long-term interest rates all across the financial system start increasing. When long-term interest rates rise, it becomes more expensive for the federal government to borrow money, it becomes more expensive for state and local governments to borrow money, existing bonds lose value and bond investors lose a lot of money, mortgage rates go up and monthly payments on new mortgages rise, and interest rates throughout the entire economy go up and this causes economic activity to slow down.

On top of everything else, there are more than 440 trillion dollars worth of interest rate derivatives sitting out there, and rapidly rising interest rates could cause that gigantic time bomb to go off and implode our entire financial system. We are living in the midst of the greatest debt bubble in the history of the world, and the only way that the game can continue is for interest rates to stay super low. Unfortunately, the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries has started to rise, and many experts are projecting that it is going to continue to rise.

On August 2nd of last year, the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries was just 1.48%, and our entire debt-based economy was basking in the glow of ultra-low interest rates. But now things are rapidly changing. On Wednesday, the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries hit 2.70% before falling back to 2.58% on "good news" from the Federal Reserve.

Historically speaking, rates are still super low, but what is alarming is that it looks like we hit a "bottom" last year and that interest rates are only going to go up from here. In fact, according to CNBC many experts believe that we will soon be pushing up toward the 3 percent mark...


Round numbers like 1,700 on the S&P 500 are well and good, but savvy traders have their minds on another integer: 2.75 percent



That was the high for the 10-year yield this year, and traders say yields are bound to go back to that level. The one overhanging question is how stocks will react when they see that number.



"If we start to push up to new highs on the 10-year yield so that's the 2.75 level-I think you'd probably see a bit of anxiety creep back into the marketplace," Bank of America Merrill Lynch's head of global technical strategy, MacNeil Curry, told "Futures Now" on Tuesday.



And Curry sees yields getting back to that level in the short term, and then some. "In the next couple of weeks to two months or so I think we've got a push coming up to the 2.85, 2.95 zone," he said.

This rise in interest rates has been expected for a very long time - it is just that nobody knew exactly when it would happen. Now that it has begun, nobody is quite sure how high interest rates will eventually go. For some very interesting technical analysis, I encourage everyone to check out an article by Peter Brandt that you can find right here.

And all of this is very bad news for stocks. The chart below was created by Chartist Friend from Pittsburgh, and it shows that stock prices have generally risen as the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries has steadily declined over the past 30 years...

CFPGH-DJIA-20

When interest rates go down, that spurs economic activity, and that is good for stock prices.

So when interest rates start going up rapidly, that is not a good thing for the stock market at all.

The Federal Reserve has tried to keep long-term interest rates down by wildly printing money and buying bonds, and even the suggestion that the Fed may eventually "taper" quantitative easing caused the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries to absolutely soar a few weeks ago.

So the Fed has backed off on the "taper" talk for now, but what happens if the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries continues to rise even with the wild money printing that the Fed has been doing?

At that point, the Fed would begin to totally lose control over the situation. And if that happens, Bill Fleckenstein told King World News the other day that he believes that we could see the stock market suddenly plunge by 25 percent...


Let's say Ben (Bernanke) comes out tomorrow and says, 'We are not going to taper.' But let's just say the bond market trades down anyway, and the next thing you know we go through the recent highs and a month from now the 10-Year is at 3%. And people start to realize they are not even tapering and the bond market is backed up...



They will say, 'Why is this happening?' Then they may realize the bond market is discounting the inflation we already have.



At some point the bond markets are going to say, 'We are not comfortable with these policies.' Obviously you can't print money forever or no emerging country would ever have gone broke. So the bond market starts to back up and the economy gets worse than it is now because rates are rising. So the Fed says, 'We can't have this,' and they decide to print more (money) and the bond market backs up (even more).



All of the sudden it becomes clear that money printing not only isn't the solution, but it's the problem. Well, with rates going from where they are to 3%+ on the 10-Year, one of these days the S&P futures are going to get destroyed. And if the computers ever get loose on the downside the market could break 25% in three days.

And as I have written about previously, we have seen a huge spike in margin debt in recent months, and this could make it even easier for a stock market collapse to happen. A recent note from Deutsche Bank explained precisely why margin debt is so dangerous...


Margin debt can be described as a tool used by stock speculators to borrow money from brokerages to buy more stock than they could otherwise afford on their own. These loans are collateralized by stock holdings, so when the market goes south, investors are either required to inject more cash/assets or become forced to sell immediately to pay off their loans – sometimes leading to mass pullouts or crashes.

But of much greater concern than a stock market crash is the 441 trillion dollar interest rate derivatives bubble that could implode if interest rates continue to rise rapidly.

Deutsche Bank is the largest bank in Europe, and at this point they have 55.6 trillion euros of total exposure to derivatives.

But the GDP of the entire nation of Germany is only about 2.7 trillion euros for a whole year.

We are facing a similar situation in the United States. Our GDP for 2013 will be somewhere between 15 and 16 trillion dollars, but many of our big banks have exposure to derivatives that absolutely dwarfs our GDP. The following numbers come from one of my previous articles entitled "The Coming Derivatives Panic That Will Destroy Global Financial Markets"...


JPMorgan Chase

Total Assets: $1,812,837,000,000 (just over 1.8 trillion dollars)

Total Exposure To Derivatives: $69,238,349,000,000 (more than 69 trillion dollars)



Citibank

Total Assets: $1,347,841,000,000 (a bit more than 1.3 trillion dollars)

Total Exposure To Derivatives: $52,150,970,000,000 (more than 52 trillion dollars)



Bank Of America

Total Assets: $1,445,093,000,000 (a bit more than 1.4 trillion dollars)

Total Exposure To Derivatives: $44,405,372,000,000 (more than 44 trillion dollars)



Goldman Sachs

Total Assets: $114,693,000,000 (a bit more than 114 billion dollars - yes, you read that correctly)

Total Exposure To Derivatives: $41,580,395,000,000 (more than 41 trillion dollars)



That means that the total exposure that Goldman Sachs has to derivatives contracts is more than 362 times greater than their total assets.

And remember, the biggest chunk of those derivatives contracts is made up of interest rate derivatives.

Just imagine what would happen if a life insurance company wrote millions upon millions of life insurance contracts and then everyone suddenly died.

What would happen to that life insurance company?

It would go completely broke of course.

Well, that is what our major banks are facing today.

They have written trillions upon trillions of dollars worth of interest rate derivatives contracts, and they are betting that interest rates will not go up rapidly.

But what if they do?

And the truth is that interest rates have a whole lot of room to go up. The chart below shows how the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries has moved over the past couple of decades...

10 Year Treasury Yield

As you can see, the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries was hovering around the 6 percent mark back in the year 2000.

Back in 1990, the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries hovered between 8 and 9 percent.

If we return to "normal" levels, our financial system will implode. There is no way that our debt-addicted system would be able to handle it.

So watch the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries very carefully. It is the most important number in the entire U.S. economy.

If that number gets too high, the game is over.

[serious punter] 02/8/2013 14:07

scyther

I see what you mean, thanks.

[scyther] 02/8/2013 13:58

Yanks missed their manipulated jobs numbers

[serious punter] 02/8/2013 13:56

Gold has just shot up by $26....$1316...What's happened to cause that ?

[serious punter] 02/8/2013 13:55

$1500 by Autumn...hxxp://www.kitco.com/news/video/show/on-the-spot/388/2013-08-01/Gold-To-$1500-By-Fall-Van-Eck-Global

[jeanesy2] 02/8/2013 07:17

I expect price to fall today especially as POG fallen below 1300 again , 1288 as i write !

[serious punter] 02/8/2013 07:10

No News today, so Monday 5th it is then IMHO.
PoG $1292.4 as I post, will it recover to £1300 plus - personally I can't see why it's dipped particularly baring in mind that relationships with Russia & USA are souring.

[saturdaygirl] 01/8/2013 20:26

Looks like we are working towards a Doji candle with complete indecision

Only news can help against the negative tilt .

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[saturdaygirl] 01/8/2013 13:23

SP

I did not see your BB post either last night , I have seen these glitches before on ADVFN

To post screen shots you will need an Image Shack account and a screen grabber such as Wisdom-soft Screen hunter 6.0Free.

I save the image from screenhunter to my desktop then open imageshack and it browses desktop . double click the saved image and imageshack converts the pic to a pastable link . Takes about 90 seconds to do .

[serious punter] 01/8/2013 08:08

SG

Posting on ADVFN is weird. When I posted the link to BB, there was no other posts after Mikes. Today I find your post posted 3 mins B4 mine. Clearly if I'd seen your post I wouldn't of wasted anyone's time by posting the link. Thanks for your posting, because I don't know how to do it.

[jeanesy2] 01/8/2013 07:45

August is now here - Where are our results ?!

[saturdaygirl] 31/7/2013 23:30

Also looks like a bullish wedge from 24 July

[serious punter] 31/7/2013 23:26

Mike

For one interpretation hxxp://www.britishbulls.com/SignalPage.aspx?lang=en&Ticker=CNR.L

[saturdaygirl] 31/7/2013 23:23

Looks like its more about the recent pattern


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Pattern Description

This pattern appears in an uptrend and consists of a white candlestick and a black candlestick in which the black candlestick opens below the preceding day's close and closes below its open. The pattern looks similar to the Bearish Harami pattern. The only difference is that the second day closes lower, which stops the engulfing of the black body by the preceding white body.

[mlangton1] 31/7/2013 23:15

SG are 3 consecutive blue days significant in charting terms?

[saturdaygirl] 31/7/2013 20:12

CIBC: Fed Statement Delays Any Decisions On Quantitative Easing