Conder Environmental Share Discussion Threads

[andy] 11/9/2006 12:56

The bid is now 0.25!


11/09/2006 09:20:56 0.25 75,000 O 187.50

[robin_of_loxley] 11/9/2006 12:51

oops just googled it...singapore prison was where leeson was....

sing sing is a prison in US



They are not to exchange a word with each other under any pretense whatever; not to communicate in writing. They must not sing, whistle, dance, run, jump, or do anything that has a tendency in the least degree to disturb the harmony...or regulations of the prison," wrote Captain Elam Lynds of New York's Auburn Prison in 1824. Such was the guiding wisdom of 19th century penologists who were convinced that the "silent system" was the path to righteousness and a return to normal life.



The ominous walls of the original Sing Sing Prison constructed in 1825 by inmates from Auburn prison. (Courtesy of Burns Patterson)


Prison reformers felt that inmates had to be isolated from the rest of society. They believed this separation had to be done for the criminal to truly reform. Only after an inmate confronted his criminal past and acknowledged his guilt could a convict rebuild his shattered life. One penologist of the era said that this separation from society had to be so complete, that a prisoner had "to be literally buried from the world!" This philosophy needed to be reflected in the architecture of the institution as well. In the minds of many penologists, there was a potent link between reform and prison design. One citizen's group in Boston said that "the prospect of improvement in morals depends in some degree, upon the construction of the buildings."

In 1825, the state legislature gave the job of building a new, more modern prison to Captain Elam Lynds, a prison warden from upstate New York. Lynds spent months investigating possible locations for the facility including Staten Island, the Bronx and an area called Mt. Pleasant on the shores of the Hudson River. He also visited New Hampshire where a prison was successfully constructed by inmate labor using stone that was available on site. For this reason, Lynds selected Mt. Pleasant, located near a small village in Westchester County with the unlikely name of Sing Sing. It was derived from the Indian words, "Sint Sinks" which translates to "stone upon stone." The legislature appropriated $20,100 for the land and the project soon received the official stamp of approval.



Marble stones cut by 19th century inmates that were part of walls of Sing Sing prison. (photo by author)


In May 1825, Lynds and 100 inmates from the depths of Auburn prison were loaded onto a wooden barge and sailed down the Hudson River to Mt. Pleasant. There, under the most stringent conditions imaginable, exposed to the elements, with little food, no buildings or shelter of any kind, construction began on Sing Sing prison, warehouse for society's worst criminals and destined to become one of the most repressive institutions in America.

[leeson31] 11/9/2006 12:49

LOL.

funnily enough tho i look nothing like that bald git tho :-)

[robin_of_loxley] 11/9/2006 12:48

I know youre IOM m8, sing sing is singapore prison where the real leeson was banged up....

[leeson31] 11/9/2006 12:44

dont know what sing sing is robin, but am in iom....

[robin_of_loxley] 11/9/2006 12:38

Leeson, I thought you had been let out of sing sing? at least they give you a laptop...

[andy] 11/9/2006 09:40

wassaper,

Yes I will be there tomorrow.

Looking forward to the forum season again!

[leeson31] 11/9/2006 09:02

no idea mate. i personally wouldnt bother....... probably cos im not in the uk.

[johnyee7] 11/9/2006 08:59

Does anyone on here know where the agm is,or are they just pretending they know.

[wassapper] 11/9/2006 08:54

Andy - I will see you at the AGM. I would not miss it! Maybe see you at Minesite tomorrow?

[leeson31] 11/9/2006 07:57

one of those camping ones....

:-)

[johnyee7] 11/9/2006 07:56

I thought it was bring your own tea and biscuits,oh and a chair to sit on.

[mikeysbeast] 10/9/2006 23:08

I heard a rumuor it is byo tea, coffee and biscuits as they are trying to conserve their £595K.

[johnyee7] 10/9/2006 20:50

Oh bye the way, where is it?

[mickey take] 10/9/2006 20:08

Ask them what's going on Andy.....

[andy] 10/9/2006 20:06

I may, I have a free day that day.

[mickey take] 10/9/2006 19:55

johnyee

LOL!!!!!!!

[johnyee7] 10/9/2006 19:54

Is anyone going to the agm/egm on the 29th sept.

[ttnyrp] 07/9/2006 22:06

Russia's Transneft demands guarantees for Arctic pipeline - 1

07/ 09/ 2006

MOSCOW, September 7 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Transneft will put a project to build an Arctic oil pipeline on hold until it receives guarantees from domestic crude suppliers and foreign customers, the state-owned pipeline operator's chief executive said Thursday.

The proposed $2.2-billion pipeline will stretch for more than 450 kilometers (280 miles) and is designed to pump 12 million metric tons per year (240,000 bbl/d) of oil from a major deposit in northwestern Russia to the country's Arctic coast. Under existing plans, the crude will then be loaded onto tankers and shipped to customers in Europe and North America.

"We will not begin the Kharyaga-Indiga pipeline's construction until we have received guarantees from oilmen on filling the pipeline to capacity and a reply from American partners stating they are willing to accept the crude, of a quality different from theirs, at their refineries," Transneft boss Semyon Vainshtok said.

In April, the Transneft chief executive said a feasibility study for the pipeline, to source oil from the Timan-Pechora basin, could be completed in November this year. He said once the Kharyaga-Indiga oil pipeline went on line, higher-grade Timan-Pechora crude would not have to be mixed with Russia's standard Urals blend, which has a higher sulfur content.

The Timan-Pechora field's recoverable reserves have been reported at 20 billion barrels oil equivalent, with crude accounting for 66%, natural gas for 30%, and condensate 4%.

[mujahid2] 06/9/2006 16:56

well said zengas and good to hear from you, any other stocks your in which are about to launch.

[zengas] 06/9/2006 16:25

The factor here was delay for so long in acquiring the asset - ie Pechora Energy. Delay after delay and the subsequent raising of equity at a serious discount to the then share price after the delay was announced.

It's a matter of keeping your eye on the ball in relation to changing circumstances - ie the stock your invested in not on the posters!

[leeson31] 06/9/2006 16:16

Im glad I can laugh of 4 k's......... ut theres always hope :-) altho i did lose 13.5k's on PCM in 97.... which was nice :-)

[andy] 06/9/2006 16:08

Leeson31,

Yes capitulation is here, 0.50 - 1.50p BID/OFFER spread now!

06/09/2006 14:41:12 0.50 50,000 O 250.00
05/09/2006 10:02:25 0.50 100,000 O 500.00
04/09/2006 14:17:21 1.90 50,000 O 950.00


Only one trade today, but the MM's simply don't want them.

[andy] 06/9/2006 16:07

spanner55,

OK< I should watch out for his threads more, apparently they do rise, the trick is knowing when to get out!

I reckon if the price doubles, sell half and top slice, thus preserving your original capital, is a decent ploy.

If they double again, repeat, and so on.