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[fidra] 03/5/2016 10:09

According to the CHL RNS (13/4/2016) on 11/2/2016 the tribunal were looking for "fees in connection with the tribunals further deliberations and drafting of its upcoming ruling."

We are now three months on from that date (almost).So I still expect around June.

My opinion re the non payment is it was a political decision taken within the GOI.
Possibly GOI were no longer prepared to "support" the previous East K administration assertions.

If this is the case then it may become more interesting .

DQ and DS clever letter to the Australian Parliamentary committee (?)highlighted amongst other facts that the concession had been expropriated and the Indonesion state were not the benefactors of that expropriation as one might have expected.

This also highlights the nature in which it was expropriated without CHL being informed

What is sometimes lost is that we are not infidels from abroad but a company with a large number of shares held by Indonesians.

[theorb] 03/5/2016 09:59

Masarap, commendable attempt to get some 'honest' communication from government departments, MP's etc. The responses you are getting are the typically evasive stuff that is so frustrating of Governments and their servants, it is a pity that they do not see themselves as 'our' servants! Might there be better results by perhaps contacting and copying in other organisations, maybe Financial Times or alternative publications that are happy to bring publicity to subjects that others try to keep hidden?

[debbiegee] 03/5/2016 09:40

Yes 2 week deadline for response tomorrow.
Then they can request Rule 42
It is the request for rule 42 that could take up to 6 wks by the ICSID.
To me that does not matter though because we are still waiting for forgery result and as I understand it rule 42 is what allows us to continue without them [probably at a quicker pace]

When asked about the timing of the forgery result Quinliven said "How long is a piece of string ?Probably by June we will know "

That could have been a conservative estimation or an optimistic guess.
Who knows it could be May July or longer ?

[debbiegee] 03/5/2016 09:23

Yeah ,what a councillor!!!
LOL !

[webshares] 03/5/2016 09:22

Isn't tomorrow the 2 week deadline that CHL asked ICSID to set for ROI response to confirmation of committing to the case? Or will ICSID set 60 days for response?

[daddy warbucks] 03/5/2016 09:20

Sounds like Mr Graham could be a councillor! ;0)

[andy] 03/5/2016 09:18

Pat,

I agree, after a while people can see through the ramping.

Debbie can only rinse and repeat so many times before the MO become transparent.

[p@] 03/5/2016 09:13

Hope I got that right!

[p@] 03/5/2016 09:12

Indonesia is a country!....LOL

[masarap] 03/5/2016 09:10

Last attempt with the Govt is via my constituency MP sent just now :-

I forgot to copy you in to this reply. Your colleague, Richard Graham, might find it convenient to pretend a UK treaty hasn't been violated but it doesn't make it any less of a provable fact. Make no mistake this isn't some subjective interpretation as he conveniently contends.

I look forward to hearing from you with regards to the stance on UK treaty violation in general and specifically this case by both the PM and Lord Price. I sincerely hope they have a different outlook to protecting UK treaties and Britsh business than Mr Graham has. At the present time his stance (and by implication the PM's) is that treaty violation is of no interest to the British Government.

Whilst trade with Indonesia must of course continue, the Government must surely engage with Indonesia and the EU on a diplomatic level and not just simply give a £1b trade credit facility or promote closer relations as if nothing has happened.

I sincerely hope you will read through the email chain because it's very clear that the regularly repeated words 'treaty violation' or any synonyms simply don't register with Mr Graham.

Best regards,

[patviera] 03/5/2016 08:44

Stephen. U got me all excited!Bl dy down on the Day!!I think all these posts from Debbie and crew are irrelevant to short term performance hereWe are long cos we are confident about tribunal decisionI'm not selling on up or down days

[debbiegee] 03/5/2016 08:31

Saint Masarap :-))))))))))

Thankyou !

We have enough TRUTH to work with I cant see the need for the constant ramping

[reesyheli] 03/5/2016 08:26

Excellent work Masarap

I think everyone on here and further afield owe you a huge vote of thanks

[masarap] 03/5/2016 08:17

P@ thanks, yes I intend to do that. As I mentioned to Richard Graham I wasn't looking to score political points hence giving him umpteen opportunities to engage his brain and give an appropriate reply. Still, if he is going to be inept and lazy then it will be given on a plate to shadow ministers and any interested journalist. He would be able to get away with his 'can't be bothered' approach were it not for the fact that a UK treaty has been violated. Ironically, this is helpful for Churchill because it means that the UK Govt has an obligation to step in otherwise it makes a mockery of the validity of our treaties and international law. That's the key bit he avoids recognising and either he can't read or can't be bothered to read.

[pathai3] 03/5/2016 08:17

Buy
Target price
28.37 p
Potential
+41.50%

[debbiegee] 03/5/2016 08:10

the 20.625 trades were all buys the 10.001 was mine

[p@] 03/5/2016 08:01

Masarap-Thank you for your great letters,the earlier suggestion by a reader to send them to the labour opposition ,for them to pass the letters on to Graham was a good one IMO..

Thanks again

[aimsharesone] 03/5/2016 07:55

Screenshot 7.15am thanks pathai3 keep up your good work

[debbiegee] 03/5/2016 07:51

It was declared late on Friday not pre open

[4627192] 03/5/2016 07:49

Pre open 45% up, 10p

20p is coming, shell is the one compensating. Highly material


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[sos100] 03/5/2016 07:47

i can't see it!

[pathai3] 03/5/2016 07:44

£10k PRE-OPEN

[patviera] 03/5/2016 07:11

Thx warbucksAppreciate it