Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[pb01] 04/12/2015 20:46

Rossannan

I agree the ICSID have to conduct a proper and fair tribunal. The i's do indeed need dotted but my point is some of the issues have been withdrawn via Mr Noors no show (a substantial amount of evidence) and some of the issues regarding licence registery are clear cut and overwealming. Therefore the workload on the ICSID panel is not as big as it was previously.

We will see who's right but I certainly would not want to be out of this. When the RNS comes it will be huge for CHL imho.

[pembury] 04/12/2015 19:52

Please just follow rossannans posting history across the boards!

[debbiegee] 04/12/2015 12:49

Very good post.
I still think there are some with an investor mentality and the minute the market gets a whiff of a win on the forgery case the stock will be rerated and investing at these prices will only be a dream.

[pb01] 04/12/2015 11:55

Rossannan, Looking at previous ruling timescales provides a good guide but I also believe we will get the results much earlier than June.

Why?

1) The RoI are a complete shambles and the ICSID know this
2) They have changed their story several times
3) Inconsistent, unreliable and non-credible witness statements
4) Mr Noor non attendance and substantial removal of evidence from the process

Taking the above points into account the ICSID in my view don't have a difficult complex job in making a ruling apart from writing a lengthy report, the evidence is clearly in CHL favour.

So with DQ setting expectations at the recent meeting in London - sure he has done exactly the correct thing. Under promise / over deliver. Say June as a date - its a safe date and every possibility of a much earlier result.

I believe both parties already know the where this is heading and it is going to be a major headline embarrassment for the RoI. A result somewhere between January and March is my estimate, I could be wrong but my shares are all paid for and I don't really care if takes a little longer.

I still don't think we should rule out an OOC - the RoI want to save face and pride. The results are likely to be damning of the RoI system and internal corruption which will hurt them politically and economically. An OOC to prevent the report being published I would say is still a strong possibility.

In the meantime, the current share price provides a low entry level and top up level for quite staggering gains to come. The share price is likely to gradually increase as the days and weeks pass in anticipation for the eventual RNS.

[marmar80] 04/12/2015 11:54

Daddy, yes and probably no. I know Indonesia is not Uzbekistan, but there in Uzbekistan even large companies had troubles with government. So no option is possible.

[daddy warbucks] 04/12/2015 11:43

If this had been Glencore, BHP or the likes, they would never have taken the actions they did.They thought a tiny exploration company, we can do whatever we like.Classic Bullies!

[bones30] 04/12/2015 11:01

rossannan. This should be priced rather like an option as time moves on the price should progress higher (if a win looks likely) as closer to the end game.

Whilst I agree the end game may not be as close as some would like, we are getting closer to further derisking.

IMO, this should trend higher now.

OXS whilst not a red herring, is a different case. This one is a lot simpler now, I believe.

I am reading a lot about foreign investment in Indonesia and they just don't seem to be attracting it as they would like. Churchill will not be helping this, until dealt with. Irrelevant if they want investment in other sectors as this is about the perception of how fairly they treat investors.

[bones30] 04/12/2015 10:24

Bargain down here, given the de-risking that has occurred lately.

I think the presentation in London perhaps spooked some there may be more fundraising. It's not looking that way is it?

[debbiegee] 04/12/2015 08:40

With a rerating possible as early as January I would hope and think highly likely we have now seen the lowest ebb.
Although nothing ceases to amaze me.

[trjones2] 03/12/2015 15:02

there ya go

[trjones2] 03/12/2015 14:28

blue by close,mms cant keep them down much longer

[pembury] 03/12/2015 14:23

Some would argue that 17.5p offers attractive value for the short to medium term

[trjones2] 03/12/2015 09:23

i dont yhink that will be the case here ross,arb cases are averaging 3years 6months,and this case started 22nd may 2012 so come the 22nd of december we are already a month over,think these will just tick up a half to a penny a day until the herd catches on,

[debbiegee] 03/12/2015 07:05

42K bought after the close last night bodes well.

[carlo sartori] 02/12/2015 21:23

Nice feedback Edie, thanks!

Carlo.

[fidra] 02/12/2015 17:12

thanks edie and pug good reading indeed.

[frak] 02/12/2015 17:01

Some interesting reading:



Sorry if posted before.

[debbiegee] 02/12/2015 16:24

Santa rally anybody ????????