Centrica Share Discussion Threads

[nortic 007] 28/3/2018 12:26

Good posts whatsup32

[mercer95] 28/3/2018 12:26

I should turn off my heating now but I’m worried the share price will fall lol I’m gonna turn it up

[whatsup32] 28/3/2018 12:25

NG,PNN, SVT, UU all up near 4% so far today. Defensive is in motion

[whatsup32] 28/3/2018 12:23

You are presuming charging of vehicles will take place at home or petrol stations. I think the local councils can make money out of having charging points strait out of a lamp post. Electricity is there so why not .

Other options.

Parking bays
7/11 type stores
Supermarkets
Libraries

This will be the way. There is going to be lots of options . Future is electricity

[careful] 28/3/2018 11:43

It is ok for jumbo jets to go on auto pilot at 35,000 feet, in an empty sky flying in a straight line for thousands of miles.
I get that.
..but a car on a country road or in a built up area, forget it.

I read the other day that semi autonamous driving depended on driver involvement every 0.8 miles.
How does a sensor detect the difference between a wheely bin left at the side of the road and a child about to step into the road?

[strutt12] 28/3/2018 11:35

Careful,

Four year old Nissan leafs still going strong and also have plenty of battery left in them otherwise they wouldn't be snapped up as an alternative to battery storage.

As you are a Toff, I assume you drive a Tesla which is the fastest production car out there and very luxurious.

hahaha

[nortic 007] 28/3/2018 11:33

I've often wondered how you would sort out insurance claims......I'm be serious. I just don't get these driverless vehicles for so many reasons but that's just my opinion.I hope my analogy work out.

[careful] 28/3/2018 11:31

I get annoyed when it takes me 10 minutes at the garage to top up with petrol for another 500 miles.

This charging ritual will be a pain.
My electric golf trolley needs to be on charge after use.
Within a 2-3 years the battery becomes weaker and unreliable.

Study the life and power reductions of older car batteries.
They are ok when new, but become feeble very quickly.
Need replacing every 4 years.
Cost thousands.

The real toffs, important people such as us on this thread will drive luxurious, powerful reliable conventional cars.
Those of a lower caste will struggle with battery power.

[strutt12] 28/3/2018 11:29

Careful,

I was aware of the uber crash, where a woman walked infont of the vehicle but wasn't aware of another self drive crash.

"All 'proper' modes of transport will be ICE." are you saying electric vehicles are not a 'proper' mode of transport?

[strutt12] 28/3/2018 11:23

Capeview,

Totally agree, and don't get me wrong we are still in the infancy of this technology. 150KW chargers are already available in europe and soon here, this will dramatically reduce charging time as will battery technology.

Not all the vehicles on motorways are doing 300 mile journeys and therefore will not need recharging until they reach their destination. you also can't refill your ice at home whilst in the comfort of your bed. ;-)

[careful] 28/3/2018 11:18

Hybrid possibly.
But all electric will never happen for serious motoring and neither auto drive.
This silicon valley hype has almost run its course.

I see Tesla shares crashed again yesterday, and yet another self drive accident.
What a con, but it will go away.

We were entering a new ice age in the 1970's, and by 2000 we would have run out of oil.
I don't think so.

You should not let them con you, it will never happen on a significant scale.
All 'proper' modes of transport will be IC.

[optomistic] 28/3/2018 11:10

You only have to look at the huge number of vehicles driving past the motorway services and then consider how many are going to come in to top up the batteries. How many will be in the queues to the charging stations, yet more and more cars will be stopping off to top up because there is nowhere else on the motorways to top up.
The ICE is a must have and not a luxury.

[capeview] 28/3/2018 11:10

Strutt,

Totally agree with what you're saying. It's not so much an issue I have with the Charging Stations, but that they take quite a while to charge your car which is why we really need faster charging.

Go to the Petrol pump and you're done in about 2-5 minutes depending on your tank, paid and gone. Electric, your car is there for at least 30 mins or more depending on the charge needed. And some times you can have a queue of cars on extremely busy days waiting for petrol, let alone what Charging points would be like.

The only way they could change that, would be that all parking bays have charging points at service areas in the future, or they have extremely fast charging to make it a viable solution.

I do agree its a shame that the big car makers aren't helping the cause, then again they have a lot of money invested in ICE and want to make as much from that as possible, which is a real shame because those cars just aren't really advancing much more. Would have loved to see a decent sized 5 series with far better fuel economy than my 96 5 series 2.5 litre 6 cylinder that is a sweet drive other than going diesel, which I really don't want.
Wouldn't have bought the Diesel Verso if we'd known about all the issues with Diesel.

[strutt12] 28/3/2018 11:00

Capeview,

In the last three years the amount of charging stations has increased dramatically and are set to continue with Shell placing them at all fuel stations and now BP looking to do the same. The only difference with long distance travel is you plan your stop where there is a charger.

The likes of Jaguar Porsche Audi and BMW have electric vehicles planned and other manufacturers following suit dinosaur juice will soon become a thing of the past. It's just a shame car manufacturers are not spending more in developing the charging infrastructure instead of leaving it to others.

[capeview] 28/3/2018 10:50

Strutt,

I agree most daily commutes are only in the 100 mile Range, but when you need that larger range a 300-400 mile is a nice thing to have. It means that you don't need to recharge until you reach your destination, but not saying that a stop off along the way won't be a must, but that is whether there is enough Charging points when you do stop off.

Not forgetting that most people only have the room for one car in there lives, because of all the costs involved in keeping a car as well as the lack of parking.

Recharging stations is the key here, because as more and more people get one, not only do the cars need to recharge fast enough, there needs to be enough capacity to cater for all those cars.

[jpjohn1] 28/3/2018 10:47

I have only done that once capeview, drove from Oxford to Edinburgh none stop ( other than getting petrol) and that was 44 years ago !!

[mercer95] 28/3/2018 10:46

Centrica holding up well today, all I know is my central heating is still on & it’s nearly April, Utility companies must be making a mint, if we see a turnaround in the US markets later I reckon £1-40 will get hit

[strutt12] 28/3/2018 10:37

Capeview

Why do people need 300-400 miles range the average daily commute is under 100 miles. I for one cannot go more than 200 miles without needing a toilet stop in which time I'm recharged to continue my journey.

[jpjohn1] 28/3/2018 09:57

At least we're holding up today like a good defensive stock should do. When we start to hit the 1.40s + there will be a lot more interest here. Just over 2 weeks ago we were hit 1.44,95p. The nearer we get to x-div you should see this start to rise. If there is speculation about a takeover the share price would rise very fast. I have said this before, when anyone bids for a firm they often go up about half there current share price So I would expect a cheeky bid would be 1.90. - 2.00 a share. I don't think in the short term there are any buyers but you never know what's happening in the boardrooms of BP & Shell. All I know personally I bought this company about 6 months ago Aver 1.87 (183,000) and I'm down about 50p or -49,000 pound, if I was silly enough to sell them. We do seem to be stuck in the 1.30 - 1.40. for a long time now. If you bought all your shares at this share price then you are not feeling any pressure but if like a lot if us bought at a lot higher price it can be very frustrating not seeing it getting back up there. Rant over. :)

[nortic 007] 28/3/2018 09:54

My apologies Diku but I've been on the phone so sorry for replying late. Thanks for your thoughts, as regards to mine....... well I've had so many theories I think I've covered all my bases :)All the best and good luck

[capeview] 28/3/2018 09:53

Electric car use is slow going. It's a huge expense for a lot of people to get anything that will give them 300-400 mile range without the need for an ICE vehicle.

Until we get those cars cheaper, it's going to be on drip feed for a few years yet.

[whatsup32] 28/3/2018 09:33

‘National Grid backs plans for earlier petrol diesel ban ‘

Source the Guardian

Not sure why we are not making enough noise about this. There will be serious money to be made here for the ‘first of the block’

If all cars are run on electricity, this could add ??? 10% to usage

[supermarky] 28/3/2018 09:21

6 weeks tomorrow until bumper xd day