Bt Share Discussion Threads

[essentialinvestor] 16/10/2017 09:07

Close period.

[dmf] 16/10/2017 09:06

Are the directors buying ? Probably waiting for a much lower sp!

[minerve] 16/10/2017 08:41

In the case of BT isn't it 'sell on the news sell on the rumour'? LOL

[essentialinvestor] 16/10/2017 08:29

PE is a generous measure as the pension deficit is not factored in,
neither is the net debt.

[montyhedge] 16/10/2017 08:17

I think p.e 14.45 is high for basically a ex growth utility company, regulated to the hilt by good old Ofcom.There may be a relief rally on the update, but I not holding my breath. My forecast is 255p if the updates happens to disappoint, if good then 305p.

[diku] 15/10/2017 17:01

wasfactory...you can call muppet or what you like...markets work in a mysterious ways...& yes I know the saying buy rumour & sell on the news but equally the opposite reaction can also happen...as markets digest the news thinking the worse is baked in...so rally on the news...I guess you not heard of that before...

[careful] 15/10/2017 13:34

To serious long term investors the results will be important.
A big test for the CEO who is under great pressure.
Not only has he had to contend with the Italian problem , the share price has collapsed on his watch.
His strategy will be outlined, and he will be tested.
Hopefully he will be allowed to improve the pension deficit with some minor modification.
Nov 2 will be judgement day for Gavin, and the share price action will be a judgement on his new strategy.

[essentialinvestor] 15/10/2017 11:23

If he means a significant share price decline in anticipation of poor news
is sometimes met with a price rise on the news, it can happen.

Share price declines on bad news are usually the result of unexpected events,
in BT's case the recent Italian accounting scandal,
which was not expected in advance.

In terms of referencing a specific future price as a buying level,
that's just largely guesswork.

[waspfactory] 15/10/2017 10:55

diku - The adage is "buy on the rumour, sell on the news" you muppet! And why will the share price go all the way down to 248p and then rise to 280p? Can you explain your thinking?

[toon1966] 15/10/2017 10:00

So Diku, if the 'news' is bad you would buy.....?

[diku] 15/10/2017 09:16

Sell on the rumour buy on the news...but think the next move down to 248 - 250p followed by a rally o 280p...

[toon1966] 15/10/2017 08:59

I suspect if the next set of results miss estimates, even worse a 'profit warning' then the share price will fall. A solid set of results in-line (or better) with expectations with some positive forward guidance will help support share price at current levels. I would like to see updates on BT Italia and Global Services restructuring/sale as a minimum.

[shanieboy01] 14/10/2017 20:22

This share price has collapsed. I dont thing results will have a huge negative effect

[dmf] 13/10/2017 16:31

If results are below market expectations, this stock will plunge

[toon1966] 13/10/2017 15:33

metalsguru - just to let you know I've notified HMRC and the IRS of your comments on this forum. Your IP address will be a good starting point.....

[montyhedge] 13/10/2017 14:59

Wow, sellers 2 to 1 late Friday afternoon.

[diku] 12/10/2017 23:36

Surely with that position you can become a bluey!...

[metalsguru] 12/10/2017 21:10

Updated post x2
Thanks Wllm.

[wllmherk] 12/10/2017 20:28

Your a brave man metal, hope your trade works out for you. Out of curiosity, why don't you just buy and hold shares in BT, why take such a risk with a SB ?


wllm

[metalsguru] 12/10/2017 16:23

Yes Monty it worked well for me in HSBC but they continued to rise after xd date. This fall in BT since going ex-div. muddies the water somewhat.

[metalsguru] 12/10/2017 16:14

Updated post:-
Thanks Essential, that's how I see it too, BT should get to 350p before it sees 200p.
I could be wrong ofc.

[montyhedge] 12/10/2017 16:05

Metal
You got the dividend credited to you, so price 289p if you look at it that way, helps pay for DFB interest.

[essentialinvestor] 12/10/2017 15:57

Fair does, best of luck.

I can only say on risk/reward medium term this looks reasonable.

If people have better current ideas then would like to hear them!.

Whether we have seen a significant low I can't say, but long since given
up trying to catch the very best price, that's just luck, not judgement.

[metalsguru] 12/10/2017 15:51

Thanks Smurfy, I look forward to all longs doing well albeit to a lesser degree than myself. Just now it's an easy decision to hold, the difficulty will come when I get past my b/e point then the temptation to take profits is hard to resist and it makes for a long haul from 306p to my target of 368p (currently).