BAR

Brand Architekts Group Plc

33.50
0.00 (0.0%)
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Brand Architekts Group Plc LSE:BAR London Ordinary Share GB0008667304 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 33.50 25,893 08:00:00
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
32.00 35.00 33.50 33.50 33.50
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Perfume,cosmetic,toilet Prep 14.30 -4.32 -12.80 - 9.36
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
15:52:36 O 1,000 32.25 GBX

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Date Time Title Posts
09/5/202314:22Brand Architekts Group PLC220
01/2/202316:44*** Brand Architekts ***15
13/10/202020:38Brand Architekts Group28
06/1/202013:36BAR-
05/7/201620:33ECLECTIC BAR GROUP PLC ORD 25P17

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Posted at 21/3/2023 14:32 by dipike
Listing does not mean that they will sell AND deliver profit. If you look back at other brands that BA have pushed (eg Mr Stevens Real Shave, Bagsy, Dr Salts and more), they have all been touted as "good news listing" over the last 3 years or more in various recoginsed retail outlets. But we have to ask, what have these listings delivered at the share price and dividend level? The answer is nothing of any use (share price collapse and no dividends). Presumably because the sales volumes in number of units is low and the margins are thin (remember that these "High Street" retailer heros keep plenty of the selling price for themselves). Just because something is listed in recoginsed retail stores and has a high shelf price, it does not assure share holders that decent volumes will be shifted and that profit will flow back into BA coffers.
I don't know if it still happens but it certainly used to be the case that grocery retailers demand an upfront listing fee before they stock a line (ie the brand owner starts day 1 of goods going on the shelf with a sizable negative net margin).
"In Waitrose" etc does not equate to a sales success - it just means the goods have made it to a shop shelf.

Posted at 03/2/2023 09:32 by beetroot juice
Maybe more. My IDP now BAR holding is showing a Huge Loss. However looking on the bright side, S.T and BAR brands are established some like S.T more than others. Averaging down here for me anyway, is IMO, my only chance of ever re-couping my original Stake. So I have done, somewhat.

I will see how it Pans out from here. Might be throwing good money after bad. Or I manage to get back my original funds with a little profit.

Still would require the share price to be in triple digits However. A long way to go. Correct Ward shafted OLD IDP holders. So did Choudray before him:)

Posted at 03/2/2023 09:26 by chop50
Given the value loss/share reduction deal of IDP shares from the BAR conversion back then thanks to Ward and cronies, some of the longer term holders would have to see something like £1.50/BAR share to probably even break even!
Posted at 03/2/2023 08:24 by beetroot juice
Nice to see the Price moving upward slowly. I agree things are looking much brighter for BAR now, ex holder myself of IDP and checking through you tube vids and S.M looks like sales of Skinny Tan products are doing very well even this early in the season. Have bought a few more here recently.
Posted at 02/2/2023 10:42 by ace ventura11
Price looking to break through the 40p mark.

A little good news here and a solid re rate will be nailed on.

Posted at 04/1/2023 13:02 by dipike
But pension liabilities are linked to inflation and inflation is out-running interest rates..... so the gap is widening not reducing. Same applies to the cash they hold - yes it is going up but the cost of manufacturing and materials is outstripping this. At the same time consumerers are reducing spend and looking for lower shelf prices on indulgent discretionary goods - exactly the category that BAR sells......... I don't think the stars are aligning in a positive way...........
Posted at 08/11/2022 12:18 by arthur_lame_stocks
I'm not going to try to sugar coat the awful results, but there are a couple of bright spots which make me think this might not be as uninvestible as I previously thought.

Firstly, the pension deficit has reduced considerably and if it stays much lower then at the next triennial valuation I would hope the deficit payments can also be reduced significantly conserving cash.

Secondly with the price where it is now the shares are trading at a significant discount to NTAV, NCA and net cash. I don't expect cash flow to be any near as bad next year as it was this year as they invested £3m in working capital, £2m for the acquisition of Innovaderma and £1.3m in the pension fund.

At 25p I may have a small punt.

Posted at 08/11/2022 11:46 by baner
Good volume today - albeit most likely a bit of double counting if not more. However, it is clear the BOD no longer control the destiny of this company┬┤s ownership - this is likely to be the beginning of the end of BA as an independent company. The Q is only what price the tired shareholders will be offered. At 40p i am sure they will all take the money and run - far, far away from McDowell et al……R30;..what a fiasco this is!
Posted at 17/10/2022 08:22 by dipike
Well, we are now past mid-Oct and the share price is sub 29p. I guess the BOD is relying on the 31st Dec deadline for Companies House accounts - with little regard or respect for the small share holders.
Posted at 02/7/2022 12:41 by pldazzle
At 30/6/21 Edale held 11.46% of InnovaDerma = approx 3,137,000 shares (of 27,374,673 then in issue).
The scrip element of the merger involved 0.3818 BAR for each 1 IDP. If Edale still held 3,137,000 IDP at the time of the merger, they would have received just under 1.2m BAR shares which would translate to slightly over 4%. They now hold 953,004 BAR, which suggests their holding has in fact *reduced*.

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