Blue Star Capital Share Discussion Threads

[hazl] 21/7/2017 08:09

Edpick you have shown completely mixed messages in your posts.
It seems it is mostly disappointment from missing the rise as you say in post 1830.
Then you go on to justify to yourself I suggest, why you didn't get them .

You cannot expect reassurance from anybody for your own decisions I'm afraid.
Again in one of your posts you said you would consider buying and holding long term.

Of course this is a risk and not guaranteed but one that I personally am excited about.

[potter25] 21/7/2017 08:08

In the price what ever it was so let's move onwards and upwards

[comedy] 21/7/2017 08:05

potter25 think it was a buy would explain couldnt buy stock but sell as much as you wanted.

[potter25] 21/7/2017 08:03

Alot of buying pressure in the background imo.

[potter25] 21/7/2017 08:02

Moving higher onwards and upwards agree.

[ramas] 21/7/2017 08:02

Onwards and upwards ?

[potter25] 21/7/2017 08:01

Comedy looks like it was soaked up there is big buyer in the background..

[comedy] 21/7/2017 08:00

7.5mill delayed trade at 0.46p from yesterday!!!

[potter25] 21/7/2017 07:55

Looks like its ready to move higher on the open!!

[potter25] 21/7/2017 07:15

Will be an interesting start with yesterdays close. I suspect the mms are very short..

[potter25] 21/7/2017 07:07

Morning all, so a possibility of an update after the GM, or early next week.
Once this 31.% is signed off it will be game on..

[comedy] 21/7/2017 06:55

Great post errol.anyone going to meeting today?

[errollc] 21/7/2017 06:31

Good post xcap and APF.
I will do the maths again..
At .5p the market value is £9m.
Less £2m of cash and non Satoshipay investments= £7m.
So the implied valuation for 31% of Satoshipay is £7m.

That suggests Satoshipay is worth £22.6m in total.

To my mind for a disruptive technology, in a huge market place (nano payments) with first mover advantage and tie ups with IOTA and PayPal (and media company Axel Springer)...that is too low.
Some may disagree but that's what makes a market.
Personally I think this should be 1.5p in near term (Next 4 weeks around IOTA integration) 3p by Xmas and then who knows...why not 10p?

[apfindley] 21/7/2017 06:31

Amongst all the dross, Don't lose sight of what satoshipay is..... ... A competitor to Google ads, an alternative revenue stream for website and content owners, in a world where everyone is sick of having to watch endless 30sec adverts, or be bombarded with a page full of advert banners and irrelevant 'sponsored links', just to view the content on web pages. With satoshipay, we can say goodbye to the data hungry, time consuming adverts which we're not interested in, and pay a fee of pennies or less, to view (only and exactly) what we want. ...... And what does Google do to threats to their business... Their acquire and use, or they acquire and neutralise.

[comedy] 21/7/2017 06:13

To get satoshipay exposure you have to buy blu. Rto next logical step.

[comedy] 21/7/2017 06:11

Good post xcap. Yesterday late afternoon people couldnt even buy 100k in shares.could seĺl 6miĺl.look at volume done last 4 days.the mms cant keep up with buying demand.

[xcap] 21/7/2017 05:08

2186Your values and in fact ours, by that I mean people like me who think BLU mcap could be 1p or 2p right now, don't mean a thing we are in the tech disruptive space. There is no upside limit to the value because the market is so colossal. The normal simple matrix of valuation calculation does not apply here so there's very little point you trying again and again attempting to This share could be frankly .1p or 3p And at 3p there would be complete justification because investors are investing in the 'future' potential of the company which is BLU Sky Look at Tesla

[upthepool] 21/7/2017 00:51

Maybe the full picture of the deal needs to be looked at.

Obviously the negative poster only posts the information that maximises the case for his argument (in this case the up font payment). Any number of reasons a company needs to get their hands on cold hard cash.

But why not then mention the warrants - ok, Coinsilium would need to pay cash at a later date (maybe when they do have their hands on cold hard cash) but it still gives them the opportunity to be involved in Satoshipay via BLU.

So, be reticent when posters say that Coinsilium have completely sold out and use it as one of their main arguments to bash the company.

Also, remember that the negative poster repeats the same information to justify his case. What Satoshipay is worth now is irrelevant, if you believe the story, what it will be worth in 3 years is the relevant part.

[comedy] 21/7/2017 00:38

ps £100mill m/cap is on low side:)

[comedy] 21/7/2017 00:38

pmsl..wait for my post tomorrow..and your numbers will look even more bizarre..numbers is my bread and butter..

just a quick one which is we are getting to buy consilium shares at same price we bought are second lot and i think our first lot too(need to check rns for 100% surety)..r u therefore saying satoshi hasnt increased in value since jan 2017???

my take is sellers need cash as most aim co. run on spending rather than earning...even fast forward took i think 100k less just in order to monetise their shares when we took them back of them and placed them with other investors.

anyway gl...shame you will miss a growth stock right under your nose. but we all have to balance our own research with our own appetite for risk.

[edpick] 20/7/2017 23:47

£100 market cap? Where did you pluck that figure from?

I'll tell you what the market cap of Satoshipay is. In the coming days, Blue Star will buy 12% of Satoshipay from Coinsilium for 725k euros. That values Satoshipay pay at 6m euros, of which Blue Star will own 31%. That's how much it's worth.

Are those experts at Coinsilium idiots selling their stake for a fraction of what it's worth, Tony Fabrizi a negotiation genius, all the pumpers on here some kind of Warren Buffett investment gurus?

Or maybe this is a pump and dump?

[upthepool] 20/7/2017 23:39

And there you go ........

And my last word ref: edpick, the majority of your "concerns" are due to you trying to apply traditional methods of valuing mature companies to an early life cycle growth stock - which is obviously ridiculous and means you shouldn't be anywhere near stocks such as this.

The remainder of your "concerns" are based on your opinion of entities such as investment companies. How can those possibly be refuted. Frankly, a ridiculous request.

By the way, it is my opinion that you are 100% negative.

[comedy] 20/7/2017 23:35

lol..well maybe you need to phone iota up $700mill m/cap co. and tell them they are getting taken for a ride by satoshipay??


pmsl if you are going to construct a counter argument at least use some logic.

meinahrd benn from 2014 has created satoshipay...now why would paypal with 200milion users sign up with him???

why has he left blockchain and bitcoin??

all the press reports reinforce what he has said..so would i stick with blu???yep...do i think we are worth £30mill?? yep..as i beleive satoshipay should be £100mill m/cap at moment.

just because it isnt valued as such at mo means..either I am ahead of the curve and the market hasnt caught up?? or i am wrong???


but if i am wrong why is paypal here?? why is iota £700mill m/cap co. here??

why was an attack launched on the share price yesteday and today???

why when people started to buy share price moved up..and we didnt get the same proportion of buys to move us up as had come on the way down??

why did they shut it donw so you couldnt buy 1 share late this afternoon???

31.1% hopefully tomorrow and then rto..then we will be able to see true value for our shares.

[edpick] 20/7/2017 23:27

I'm not entirely negative. I'm intrigued by the concept (that's all it is, no business, just a concept) of web-based nanopayments and believe it could catch on.

However, I have a number if reservations about BLU and Satoshipay, which I have previously outlined, and these haven't been meaningfully refuted by any bulls on here.

Investing is all about entry and exit points. I believe this stock is currently in the midst of a pump and dump, as evidenced by the share price rocketing to a 135% premium of the 0.2p placing price and huge premium to NAV.

Most on here seem to think that Satoshipay has unlimited value and infinite potential. Greed, excitement and delusion seems to be masking rational judgement of some on here. That kind of thinking is the fast way to the poor house.

[comedy] 20/7/2017 23:02

THE TANGLE
Service layerData formatApplication layerTransport layerConnectivity layer
Stack
Trinary/binary, JSON
IoT applications, Device management
IoT
MAM, MQTT, XMPP
IOTA
HTML, XML, JSON
Web applications
Web
MAM, HTTP, DNS, TLS/SSL
IOTA
Wifi, LoRa, Bluetooth etc.
Wifi, LoRa, Bluetooth etc.
The main innovation behind IOTA is the Tangle, a revolutionary new blockless distributed ledger which is scalable, lightweight and for the first time ever makes it possible to transfer value without any fees. Contrary to today’s Blockchains, consensus is no-longer decoupled but instead an intrinsic part of the system, leading to decentralized and self-regulating peer-to-peer network. Read our Whitepaper.