Bidstack Share Discussion Threads

[angel333] 20/8/2019 20:56

Also do bear in mind that the Prints (trade reports) you see are generally both SEAQ and also the RSP.

SEAQ is the two way price put up by the market that they are obliged to trade at, so is normally a wider spread than the RSP (as mentioned earlier)- Bidstack is quoted in 20,000 as the EMS (Exchange obligated Market Size)

BUT do you see ALL executions/prints - The answer is NO....

Any execution traded in a 'dark pool' is not reported to the Exchange but generally reported through the CBOE (previously BATS trading)

hxxps://markets.cboe.com/europe/equities/market_share/market/venue/#ct=1vrCD&;m=0vcED&rg=0vNED&sc=2NrCD&sv=3vrCD&v=0vrCD&me=nc&dr=day&mt=1&ms=0&hc=1&f=0

As an example, one of the largest Dark Pools is Turquoise which trades Aim stocks and is actually owned by the London Stock Exchange and reports to the CBOE.

[haz101] 20/8/2019 20:50

I bought over 30k at close

[haz101] 20/8/2019 20:49

Folks check out bidstack LinkedIn jobs.....

[angel333] 20/8/2019 20:48

Luke

Why do you feel they are weird?

The final price seems to have been 31.82 - 33p...

Hope they open at that level tomorrow or maybe higher...

[global nomad] 20/8/2019 20:07

so i suppose we have to be grateful for a hapenny rise...

[lukehold] 20/8/2019 19:35

Telephone orders from the big man himself. Got it, thanks.

[moneygenxyz] 20/8/2019 19:21

Holy number just ask angel.

[lukehold] 20/8/2019 19:10

Some weird buys at 33p today.. what's that about

[hazl] 20/8/2019 18:42

Given two more days and VOLSUNG would have won the competition.
Wonder if we wait long enough it will work up to fudge?!

[lukehold] 20/8/2019 18:01

Have you had your bidstack meeting yet Roley? Quiet day here, lull before the storm I reckon.

[roleybirkin] 20/8/2019 16:41

There you go again Aidanabeggin...

I am learning stock market etiquette all the time.

[moneygenxyz] 20/8/2019 16:37

The only positive in this lull is that BIDS now know that the market is expecting translation of deals into revenue. Keeps them focused. Deals alone won't give them what they want... it has to be commercially viable too. That can only be good for holders. Maybe they need to shift their communication to what these deals spell out in terms of commercial values.. money talks.

[aidenabettin] 20/8/2019 15:58

Parasites paradise.And aptly named

[roleybirkin] 20/8/2019 15:24

You have clearly worked in the stock markets Aidinabettin..... Full of quality insight matey.

[moneygenxyz] 20/8/2019 15:17

Makes sense thanks.

Guess one positive is that warrants are unlikely to be executed at this level unless there was a real issue internally

[aidenabettin] 20/8/2019 15:12

So many words just to say 'insider info'

[angel333] 20/8/2019 15:05

Hi Moneygen
The Market Makers have insight that the retail investor does not have.

Firstly, they will be in constant contact with the house Broker namely Peterhouse... That gives them intel into there thoughts on the company - is it a buy, sell or hold for example....

Secondly, they will get the calls from the House Broker and other Brokers as and when there is an order too large to trade on the RSP. They will very often have live 'sizeable' orders as well as sizeable limit orders sitting on there books.

Finally, pre market open there is a short period where they take open market orders and hence if there is solid buyers at 'open' then they mark the price up and fill those buy orders.

All in all, it would only take a couple of ongoing sell orders for say up to 1mn shares or more and that overhang will keep the share price around current levels as it would take a lot of retail buy orders to clear the sell order.

Hope that makes sense.

[angel333] 20/8/2019 14:58

Deacon - Bids are all at GamesCom - Likely back end of the week - No interviews likely for now.

[moneygenxyz] 20/8/2019 14:57

Angel, your insight is very welcome here. Sometimes feels like a black box.

You asked yesterday 'what do the market makers know that PIs don't?'

Are you inferring that the only thing they can know is that there is a large seller?

If not, what else could they know that influence their share price decisions?

[richardjohn10] 20/8/2019 14:56

This will be higher in a months time than it is now. It really is that simple.

[angel333] 20/8/2019 14:55

What are you talking about aidanandabettin?

'Institutions have been brought in to control the share price'.....

What are you talking about. Please explain...

[angel333] 20/8/2019 14:52

There is no wide spread Scotty666....

Seaq yellow strip (Stock Exchange Automated Quotation system) can show 30 - 33p
but the trading is done predominantly on the RSP (Retail Service Provider) which at this moment shows:-
31.03 - 31.88p

Brokers (when a retail order) hit the RSP bis and offer

Brokers (when an institutional order or a larger than quoted order) ring the market makers direct to negotiate price and size.....