Avocet Mining Share Discussion Threads

[biswell] 26/7/2004 12:47

So much for the wisdom of waiting for the results.

They have been delivered and now the exit for the door stage right has started.

B

[jeddah jo] 26/7/2004 12:27

Scotinvestor is clearly very shrewd.

Unlike Bis who is just a gimp.

[dimsum] 26/7/2004 11:07

please take it outside the both of you

[biswell] 26/7/2004 09:05

scotinvestor

We all die someday, I look foreward to meeting you in the afterlife.
We can hold hands and talk at length on POG and other matters of import.

B xx

[biswell] 25/7/2004 20:13

GOLD IS HEADED LOWER

Friday's decline in gold brought an end to wave 2 up and was a start for wave 3 down. According to Friday's EW report, gold is now headed down with no logical support above 350 dollars an ounce. I can almost hear the bulls wailing to me thru my computer screen

Since all of my gold was sold at higher prices, I intend to commence buying small quantities at prices below 350 dollars. This could be the last big opportunity to accumulate the precious metals.

B

[andy] 25/7/2004 16:31

holdontight,

Re your first comment on post 4794, I have had the same feeling for months!

[biswell] 24/7/2004 09:56

Ash funny you should say that, I am thinking of setting up a Psychologiical guidance business when I move to NZ in addition to a Realty business, would you like some?

biswell - 24 Jul'04 - 09:25 - 5953 of 5953 edit

Catch this


Looks like $usd chart has put in a bottom
bottom chart
Gold going down $380 next week

B

[theberg] 23/7/2004 21:15

Holdontight,

I would like to have thought up Biswell, the character mentally and emotionally deformed as he is, nevertheless is now a BB Legend.

Not Moi Sir

Ice

[holdontight] 23/7/2004 21:08

I am still not convinced that Biswell and AJ are not one and the same.
Anyway, to respond to the earlier comment by one of them that AVM will dive when 300000 not reached by 2006 - why ? They are undervalued at current prod levels by ANY standard !
Share price IMO has held up well. Expected sell off by T-traders has not occurred and even POG down below $390 has had no impact. And Artemis still hold, as they did with Cairn and Minerva.....they know a bargain when they see one ! Maybe Bis/Berg work for them !!??!!

[theberg] 23/7/2004 20:55

Bis,

This will help I would have thought (seeing as you posted it)



The Dollar and Rising Rates


Adam Hamilton



June 18, 2004

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The coming interest rate hikes will certainly affect the US dollar. Wall Street believes the dollar will rise immediately, but contrarians are not so sure.

While the currency markets usually move with all the sound and fury of a glacier, some rare crosscurrents are converging to make for an exceptionally interesting summer in this enormous arena. The world's reserve currency, the mighty US dollar, is ground zero for these titanic colliding forces.



What chill winds are beginning to buffet the greenback? First, the Federal Reserve is preparing to raise interest rates in the States from their nearly half-century lows. Second, inflation is on the rise as the massive excess liquidity pumped into the economy by the Fed bids up prices on nearly everything important to living.



It is not too often that rate hikes from the lowest levels in modern American history coincide with a major surge in headline inflation, so the ultimate impact on the dollar ought to be interesting. Wall Street believes higher rates are going to be very bullish for the dollar and attract new foreign investment into the US stock markets, but contrarians like I am not so sure.



Per classic economic theory, the rising rates indeed ought to be bullish for the dollar. The higher the returns that a given currency offers, the higher its international demand grows. While this economic principle commands much airplay these days, the more I ponder it the more I conclude that key foundational elements are missing this time around in the peculiar case of the US dollar.



In order for higher rates to boost demand for a currency, several core conditions must be in place. First, the rising rates on the currency must be attractive relative to those available in other major currencies. Second, the rising rates must move up relatively faster than those of alternative major currencies in order to maintain this competitive advantage. Finally, the actual real rates of return in the currency must be positive.



Unfortunately the US dollar fails all three of these core condition requirements underlying the classic economic theory on international currency demand, leading me to believe that it is not wise to expect rising rates to significantly boost the dollar's flagging fortunes any time soon.



In the States today, the overnight rate that the Fed directly sets is only 1.00% now, a half-century low. The futures market is now discounting a Fed Funds rate of 2.25% by year end, or a 125 basis point increase from today's incredibly low levels. The markets expect these rate hikes to begin in the next couple weeks, at the Fed's meeting at the end of this month. And Wall Street expects a big surge in dollar demand.



But, compared with rates of return available in other countries today, the initial rate hikes will not be able to make the dollar relatively attractive to foreign investors. In the US, a 1-year Treasury Bill only yields 2.14% today in nominal terms. If the Fed hikes by 50bp, a big initial move, then this 1y T-Bill yield will probably migrate up to 2.60% or so. Will this be relatively attractive? Not really.



In the United Kingdom today for example, the local 1-year government bonds equivalent to US 1y T-Bills are currently yielding 4.98%, or 1.9x as much as US T-Bills would after the initial 50 basis point move! On the other side of the world in Australia, its own 1-year government bonds are yielding 5.20%, or twice as much as the American yields. Even after the initial US rate hikes, the US dollar returns are going to be far below those available in other major First World nations. The dollar is not going to look relatively attractive by any means.



And central banks are notorious for acting like a herd of sheep. When one acts, the rest tend to move in sympathy as well. Peer pressure in central banks appears to be worse than in high school. So there is a significant probability that a doubling of overnight rates in the US this year would spur other central banks into action. And any foreign rate hikes would make the relative increase in the States look smaller in comparison, reducing its impact in the global currency markets.



Finally, in addition to being relatively unattractive even after the initial hikes, the real inflation-adjusted returns on the dollar will remain abysmal. Foreign investors who buy the dollar are guaranteed to lose purchasing power in dollar terms every year that they own US securities. These negative real rates are glaringly obvious to prudent global investors. Rising nominal rates while real rates remain negative is like lipstick on a pig, a small cosmetic band-aid woefully inadequate to mask a huge underlying fundamental problem.



The US Consumer Price Index inflation report this week really highlighted the rising menace of inflation. Year-over-year, the CPI is now up by 3.05%. And this official number is almost certainly lowballed as the US government has huge economic and political incentives to report inflation as low as possible. Hedonic deflators and other black statistical arts are actively employed to ensure that this headline inflation number remains tame.



With inflation now running at least 3.05% annually in the US, and 1y Treasuries now yielding only 2.14%, real rates are negative 0.91% now. Even after the first 50bp hike by the Fed, real rates will still likely be negative 0.45% or so, guaranteeing foreign investors real purchasing-power losses if they buy dollars. The economic theories on the effects of interest rates on currencies are all based on normal positive real returns, not anomalous central-bank-spawned negative real-rate environments.



And as rates in the States rise, inflation is only expected to grow worse. The Financial Times just reported that a whopping 87% of fund managers surveyed expect higher inflation in the US in the next year. Odds are this higher inflation will effectively offset rising nominal rates, keeping real rates of return in the US negative for some time to come and short-circuiting economic currency models based on positive real rates.



All of this theory is certainly not difficult to understand, but the surging US stock markets and recent dollar strength seem to back the bullish thesis asserting that much higher dollar levels are approaching. If you are immersed in the day-to-day newsflow of the American markets these days, I think you would have to admit that the general sentiment ahead of the coming rate hikes has been remarkably positive.



Provocatively, however, the technical evidence on the dollar charts is not bullish at all but actually is rather bearish right in line with the contrarian theory on relative international returns and negative real rates. Our next two charts highlight this fascinating divergence between the prevailing dollar sentiment and the actual current technical dollar scene. At the moment, at least technically, the contrarian case for dollar weakness is dominating the price charts, both short term and long term.







The first half of this year witnessed a very impressive dollar rally, which was expected in early January as the dollar bounced off key technical lows. From its ultimate trough near 85 in mid-February to its peak near 92 in early May, the US Dollar Index managed to carve a very impressive 8.2% rally over 61 trading days. This is really a major move in the world's reserve currency, which tends to move as slow as molasses.



Like most major rallies, the dollar proved no exception in establishing a well-defined uptrend pipe as 2004 marched on. This is drawn in blue above. The dollar behaved rather nicely from a technical perspective, grinding its way higher while bouncing within its uptrend channel several times from its lower support and upper resistance lines. The dollar bulls indeed had good reason to be excited in recent months, until late May.



Towards the end of May, the dollar started selling off as it had a couple of times before during its 2004 rally. This time, however, the selling didn't stop at the dollar's lower support line. As you can see above, the venerable US Dollar Index plunged below its short-term uptrend support, a technical breakdown. And even after three valiant attempts to break back above in June, this former support line is now acting as oppressive overhead resistance.



When price trends are changing, it is not uncommon for former support to become new resistance. As more and more traders perceive that an old support line is now becoming resistance, they grow discouraged and selling increases. Since so many countless market players watch the charts, to a very real degree the charts directly influence speculator psychology which drives actual buy and sell decisions. After three successive attempts to break decisively above the old support line were repelled and failed, the dollar's short-term fortunes are looking increasingly cloudy.



Adding even more intrigue, today's stubborn resistance now coincides exactly with the 200-day and 50-day moving averages of the US Dollar Index. These important lines are as widely followed as the linear trend lines and the inability of the dollar to break above these soon will further poison sentiment among short-term currency traders. If speculators don't believe a price can head higher, then it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy as they cease buying and start selling.



At any rate, the short-term dollar chart that was so bullish between January and May has now turned bearish. Former rock-solid support is now acting as resistance and the short-term trend seems to be changing for the worse. This uninspiring technical picture supports the bearish contrarian thesis that rising rates, at least initially, are not going to be anywhere near as bullish for the dollar as Wall Street stock perma-bulls are desperately hoping.



And if the short-term dollar scene is rapidly fading to the dark side as the dollar's 2004 rally fades, the long-term picture is even worse. On a long-term chart the major dollar rally we just witnessed earlier this year looks like nothing more than a garden-variety bear-market rally within the dollar's powerful secular bear market.







Since topping in 2001 after a very powerful six-year secular bull, the dollar has been firmly entrenched in its current secular bear. Just like winter inevitably follows summer, bear markets inevitably follow bull markets. This endless cycle has always existed in the financial markets and I suspect it always will. The biggest problem for bulls right now is the current duration of this secular dollar bear.



Using the most conservative lifespan possible for this long-term bear, it topped in mid-2001 in absolute terms so it is only three years old now in mid-2004. In reality though, it carved a second slightly lower double top in early 2002 so it would not be at all out of line to consider it a half year younger than three years today. In modern history, the average secular bull or bear market in the US dollar has run five to seven years in duration. So at only circa three years old today, odds are this dollar bear is only halfway over or so!



Further complicating life for the bulls, the average decline in the previous secular dollar bears ending in 1980 and 1995 was around 40%. If this historical precedent holds true today, then we are looking at a potential secular bottom in this dollar bear around 72 on the US Dollar Index. If you are keeping score, that is another 20% lower from here. Thus in historical context this dollar bear is not only half over in terms of duration, but only half over in terms of depth. No, the current long-term dollar outlook is certainly not pretty by any stretch of the imagination!



This secular dollar bear has also carved an excellent downtrend pipe in the past few years. The major support and resistance lines are drawn in above, with the lower support line better defined with three interim-low bounces so far. I am fascinated by the parallel top resistance line at the moment though, which has so far held as overhead resistance even in spite of our strong bear-market rally in 2004.



Of the four major bear-market rallies of this dollar bear to date, labeled above, our current fourth specimen has been the largest. While it looked so impressive on the first short-term graph, this long-term view really puts it in proper strategic perspective. The dollar had plunged to its lower support line by the end of 2003 so a major rally was due.



This rally erupted right on schedule and carried the dollar all the way back up through its downtrend channel to its upper resistance line. Although challenged in May, this key technical level has not decisively fallen and remains in force. Today the intercept between this major overhead resistance line and the US Dollar Index is running around 90 or so, which not so coincidentally was about as high as the dollar could march before these graphs were created on Wednesday evening.



Thus, from a long-term technical perspective as well, the near-term fortunes of the dollar look quite bearish. All the 2004 bear-market rally did was carry the dollar from the bottom to the top of its secular downtrend channel. So far it just looks like another garden-variety bear-market rally, no big deal. And the dollar already appears to be rolling over and topping since it has not yet been able to re-challenge its 92 USD Index highs achieved in early May.



This behavior fits the natural rhythm of a secular bear amazingly well. During bear markets, prices tend to fall for a while until they grow short-term oversold, then a bounce is due. These resulting bear-market rallies are necessary to bleed off speculative excesses on the short side to prepare the way for the next downleg. The bear market rallies typically give up their ghosts somewhere near the price's 200dma, just like today.



On the graph above, the red line illustrates this bear-market rhythm beautifully. It is the Relative Dollar, or the US Dollar Index divided by its 200dma. The dollar's downlegs have tended to grind lower until the dollar hits around 90% to 91% of its 200dma, then a major bear-market rally erupts. These rallies carry the dollar up to at least 96% of its 200dma, but sometimes even higher near 101% of it. Yet, just as quickly as they erupted off of rDollar lows, these bear-market rallies soon collapse as the 200dma holds as major overhead resistance.



So, while Wall Street dances around and somehow believes that the US dollar is about to surge into a new multi-year secular bull on rate hikes, the charts just aren't buying this argument. Short-term support just failed and long-term resistance is holding. Technically at least, the bearish arguments on the near-term fortunes of the dollar are far more convincing than the bullish ones.



Finally, another major reason that I suspect that rising rates will actually hurt the dollar, at least initially, is because foreigners are already heavily invested in US Treasuries and other American debt. Rising rates are great news for new investors, but for investors with existing debt portfolios they are like the Black Death. There is nothing that can obliterate the wealth of bond investors faster than rising interest rates.



The latest stats I have seen indicate that slightly more than half of all US Treasury debt is held by foreign investors, so this is a nontrivial issue. To illustrate the huge risks to these foreign investors the moment the Fed pulls the trigger, imagine an investor from Europe holding 3-year US T-Notes today. These are neither ultra-short-term nor ultra-long-term in maturity, but pretty average. Today the US 3-years yield about 3.27%, but we will use 3% in this example to make the math easier.



At 3%, every $1000 face value in bonds our European investor purchased yields the equivalent of $30 per year in coupon payments. As long as three-year rates remain near 3%, the European investor does not lose precious principal and earns the 3% per year that he expected. But as soon as rates rise, all hell breaks loose with any bond maturing in more than a year or so.



At the moment US consensus calls for overnight rates to move at least 125bp higher this year, so let's assume the market rate on our European's 3y Treasuries soars to 4% in the months ahead. Our European is in serious trouble now, as he owns US Treasuries yielding 3% but the prevailing market rate is now 4%. No one will be willing to buy his 3% bonds when they can buy brand new 4% bonds instead, so the face value of his existing investment will plummet. It will fall until its price is so low that it yields the new market rate of 4%.



Since these bonds the US Treasury sold him at 3% will never pay more than $30 of interest, they will be sold aggressively in the marketplace. While they traded at $1000 a month ago, a few months from now they will fall until they yield 4% like brand new bonds. In order for a contractual $30 payment to yield 4%, the value of our European's bonds will have to plummet from $1000 to $750 in the marketplace, a horrific 25% loss in supposedly safe US Treasury investing. $30 in interest payments on a bond with a $750 market value now equals the market's new 4% yield. Although this example is simplified, it will still be one heck of a kick in the teeth!



For the legions of foreign investors already heavily invested in the US Treasury market, they will face similar and even larger losses on any US bonds they are holding that mature in over a year. Would you risk losing a quarter or more of your portfolio's value to gain a measly one additional percent in return? Me either! I suspect that foreign investors are going to sell ahead of the worst of the rate hikes, dumping their US Treasuries and then selling the dollar proceeds in order to buy back their local currencies.



If they repatriate their capital deployed in US bonds maturing in a year or more now, they can stay safely in their local-currency cash and watch in leisure as the rising rates decimate the US bond markets. Then they can buy dollars later, after the rate hikes, when bond prices are as cheap as they have been in a generation. But initially, up front, they will probably choose to sell their US debt and then US dollars to get out of harm's way before rising rates eviscerate the US bond market.



There are a couple of caveats on this thesis. First, if an investor is willing to hold all of his bonds to maturity then rising rates are not a risk. Bond principal is only lost by those actually selling before maturity. Realistically though, most people would want to sell before maturity since it makes little sense to hold an old lower-yielding bond when new higher-yielding ones become available.



Second, this only applies to individual and institutional investors with common sense who actually care about capital preservation. Thus, the massive foreign government holders of US Treasury debt may not care one bit at all and be content to watch their taxpayers' money burn in the coming Treasury massacre. All governments are rightfully notorious for doing stupid things.



While Wall Street trumpets that rising rates are going to boost the US dollar and the US stock markets, contrarians remain very skeptical.



Even after the initial rate hikes, the dollar's returns will remain relatively unattractive compared to other First World industrial powerhouses. Even after the initial rate hikes, the dollar's real rate of return after inflation will still be negative, guaranteeing foreign investors that they will lose purchasing power by buying dollars.



In addition to these factors negating the classical economic argument for a stronger dollar, both the short-term and long-term dollar technicals remain quite bearish. On top of all this, the enormous existing dollar bond portfolios held by foreign investors around the world are going to be crushed when market rates start climbing higher in earnest.



In light of all these serious concerns and bearish factors, odds are the rising rates are not going to boost the mighty US Dollar initially. Indeed, just the opposite scenario seems to be shaping up, with the next major dollar downleg already brewing.



Adam Hamilton, CPA



June 18, 2004

[theberg] 23/7/2004 20:41

LOL, that is why she is called the Mud Warbler!

[corrientes] 23/7/2004 20:40

AVM share price will respond to supposed fear inducing and hypothetical negative comments in the same way as it has responded to previous technical and theoretical drivel by doing what it always does ; virtually nothing.

[theberg] 23/7/2004 20:33

Bis,

There has been no 1m to 2m volume day to accompany a top yet.

C of B at 12p 120% of A of B 10p, but bid to offer looks like it might be going impulse.

Accepted C went to 161.80% of A termination at 16p roughly but I still think there may well be another up to go.

Cold As Ice

[biswell] 23/7/2004 20:30

Ash

Let us talk about buying when AVM is back under 55p once more

Stevie
Dodgy terrace sold and money tucked away
B

[stevie blunder] 23/7/2004 20:15

Biswell, you are often amusing, but even i am getting a bit dischuffed with this stuff.

give it a rest, eh?

By the way, how goes the dodgy terrace?

awarra best,

steve

[thenry] 23/7/2004 20:11

bis fantasy trader, what are you on about? ur position is still against you.
my AVM lowest price 28p and subsequent additions upto 56p are all in profit.
what about you?
bis do you still run fantasy trading courses?

[theberg] 23/7/2004 19:54

Bis, I am looking to buy back again, what do you reckon when it fills that 66.00p gap?

[bionicdog] 23/7/2004 19:36

look forward to it LOL!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[biswell] 23/7/2004 19:27

OK

I will continue tommorrow with some more gems that have been missed from Mr Henry's masterpiece

B

[bionicdog] 23/7/2004 19:26

would have been 9 in a row if i hadn't broken the sequence.
it's friday , why don't you go out with your frinds?
......oh sorry.

[biswell] 23/7/2004 19:24

Bdog
Woof Woof
B

[biswell] 23/7/2004 19:24

Who said this was a cheap producer? The following is an extract from the Results....ZGC increasing to $322/oz ....so break even soon then ?

Penjom's cash costs decreased to US$192/oz with cash costs atZGC increasing to US$322/oz.

B