Atalaya Mining Share Discussion Threads

[iankn73] 20/10/2017 15:59

I'm not gloating here, as I know most of you have averages well over £2 I'm just sharing my strategy. As most of you know. I have my main holding at an average of £1.35 and my plan now and has been for a number of weeks is just to continually buy in very small quantities every couple of weeks or so or when opportunities arise until I feel that the share price has reached a price that I'm happy with, so if it means that I have to continue to add in very small quantities over the next few years then so be it. As this share has a long long way to go from its current position and im sure this will pay off in buckets. IMO

Have a good weekend all.

[zho] 20/10/2017 14:48

Hi rougepierre,

Many thanks for the businessinsider articles.

John Mauldin's article this week discusses VIX, and the "massive" short positions investors have in the VIX: I would never have guessed that this was such a popular trade, not least because as John Mauldin's colleague Jared Dillian puts it, investors short of the VIX are betting that "nothing bad will happen, ever".


JM article at

JD article at

[waterloo01] 20/10/2017 11:20

Scargs


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Number 202 - Friday, October 20, 2017 Page 275 Official Gazette of the Junta de Andalucía Legal Deposit: SE-410/1979. ISSN: 2253-802X hxxp://www.juntadeandalucia.es/eboja BOJA 5. Announcements 5.2. Other official announcements COUNSELING OF ENVIRONMENT AND ORDINATION OF THE TERRITORY Agreement of October 3, 2017, of the Territorial Delegation of the Environment and Territorial Planning in Huelva, of joint public information of the administrative procedure for the modification of the Restoration Plan and the administrative procedure for Substantial Amendment of Authorization For the project that is cited. (PP 2887/2017). Agreement of the Territorial Delegation of the Environment and Ordination of the Territory of Huelva, opening a joint public information administrative procedure for Modification of the Project Restoration Plan Riotinto (File 181/10 / M) and on the administrative procedure of Modification Substantive Environmental Authorization for the Improvement Project Operational and Safety measures to the Project for the Reclamation of the Project Riotinto (File AAU / SC / 003/13 / M1). In accordance with the provisions of articles 6.3 of Royal Decree 975/2009 of 12 June, on waste management in the extractive and rehabilitation of the space affected by mining activities and 31.3 of Law 7/2007, of 9 July, on Integrated Management of the Environmental Quality of Andalusia, by competence conferred by Article 7 of Decree 356/2010 of 3 August regulates the unified environmental authorization, as well as article 83 of Law 39/2015, of 1 October, of the Common Administrative Procedure of the Public Administrations and the article 13.1.e) of Law 1/2014, of June 24, of Transparency Public of Andalusia, AGREEMENT First. The opening of a period of public information, within the procedures concerning the files: 181/10 / M and AAU / SC / 003/13 / M1, under the name: Modification of the Restoration Plan of the Riotinto Project and Substantial Modification of the Unified Environmental Authorization for the Operational Improvement Project and of Safety to the Project of Improvement of the Waste Bin of the Riotinto Project, promoted by Atalaya Riotinto Minera, SLU Second. The publication in the Official Gazette of the Junta de Andalucía of this Agreement, so that during the period of thirty working days, counting from the to the time of its publication, the allegations that are considered pertinent can be made. Third. During the period of public information the documentation will be available for consultation on the website of the Ministry of Environment and Management Territory, through the url: www.juntadeandalucia.es/medioambiente/informacionpublica, as well as in the administrative units located in Calle Sanlúcar de Barrameda, 3, of Huelva, from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., from Monday to Friday, except holidays. Fourth. The allegations, addressed to the person who is the holder of the body adopting this Shall be submitted in writing in any Administration in the General Electronic Register of the Junta de Andalucía, or in any registry of the Ministry of Environment and Spatial Planning, or in any registry without prejudice to the provisions of article 16.4 of Law 39/2015 of October, of the Common Administrative Procedure of the Public Administrations. Huelva, October 3, 2017.- The Secretary General, Antonio Agúndez Rebo

[cufes2] 20/10/2017 10:19

MrOnions

You are a fool IMHO . . .

[scargs] 20/10/2017 09:59

waterloo01

Thank you for the "Juntadeandalucia" link.

How can I read it in English?

Scargs

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 20/10/2017 09:50

#waterloo01, it would seem so, the updated 43-101 feasibility study for the PRT expansion was ahead of schedule and due early Q4.. which is about now, and will make for interesting reading, it will of course be viable to do the upgrade, and the enabling works to existing plant are well underway..

#Onions, you might be right, a safe bet from $10,000/Tonne Copper, but before we were up an running tho'...!

[waterloo01] 20/10/2017 09:35

I assume this has to do with PRT expansion.

[mronions] 20/10/2017 08:32

seriously have all the antics ended ? have the anti-EMED brigade moved on? have their jobs / mandate ended. We want to hear from you !

LANGO, EMEDGATE, CUFE, VAL, VAN, Alberto : anything to say ?


Also Big Dad / Charmer ... closer to EMED than you would think ... you gone to ?

[wanderer1210_0] 19/10/2017 17:51

Looks like a T trade rolling over to me Erric

[erric] 19/10/2017 17:22

Tasty 40,000 buy at 185p, posted at 17.15.

[erric] 19/10/2017 17:20

With that ebitda figure we might even hit Harry’s $1billion value by early 2019

[waterloo01] 19/10/2017 16:34

Touro could be getting interesting as I see the economy minister made some comment (Small holding on iii). I don't see much in the way of getting approvals as long as they give the assurances, which they would anyway. Alberto has no doubt got some interesting mining wheezes on dealing with some of the issues raised and in getting it built at a low capital cost (track record helps here).

I've also looked back at my searches on Linden (who did most of the drilling) and it it looks to me to be of similar size as PRT but potentially with excellent grades and easy mining as the deposit sits in near surface 'slabs'.

The timing should be excellent into a bull copper market. We should get impressive full year numbers and $100m EBITDA for 2018, so a steady and reliable revenue stream and two growth projects.

[rougepierre] 19/10/2017 13:33

Here's a couple of articles that may help...

hxxp://uk.businessinsider.com/vix-price-betting-on-fear-gauge-riskier-than-ever-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

hxxp://uk.businessinsider.com/vix-creator-bob-whaley-interview-investors-dont-understand-wall-street-fear-gauge-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

Of course you're right in general, that VIX goes up when share prices fall, and that might affect ATYM, but I'm more interested in a gut feel that VIX has fallen to low anyhow (recently an all time low); that the US markets are far too complacent after one of the longest bull runs ever; that a correction is coming; and that even short term bounces can be very lucrative if you read the first article and see my earlier post...

Meanwhile, my big long term hold in ATYM is based on a belief that this company is massively undervalued over a 5-10 year period and also that if stocks fall, the resilience of metals/minerals rise may outweigh it...

Why? Because the Dow/S&P500 seem to be a one way bet by US investors ATMO (unlike the FTSE) and funds from other asset classes have been sucked in...the smart money will be looking for hedges/alternate investments soon...if not already...

AIMHO as usual...

[waterloo01] 19/10/2017 12:12

Rouge, have also bought a few VILX as a hedge, however if it does spike up it also means the market is over heating and that will effect all shares (and I have a tiny short position compared to my longs) so kind of hope it doesn't!

Still might be an interesting play as VIX is way too low given where th markets are. Cheers

[cufes2] 19/10/2017 11:37

Anyone for a game of darts . . . Double top to go first . . .

[zho] 19/10/2017 10:59

Thanks rougepierre

[rougepierre] 19/10/2017 10:49

Ah...I see the confusion now...I've been looking at the US equivalent which trades back a lot longer, but...

the news gets better, because VILX was 54 in August 2017 (now 20.4) but in June 2016 it was 2559!!! That's a prospective gain of almost 140 times from my buy price yesterday...that would turn £2,000 into £280,000 if it happened...

Anyhow, enough of this off topic...just wanted to share a punting prospect with you guys...there's nothing in it for me, because its an ETF not a share...

GLA and AIMHO as usual...

[rougepierre] 19/10/2017 10:32

18.6 is in pence...800p is in pence...$28.6 is in dollars...

meanwhile...

I believe Nasdaq is leading S&P is leading Dow Jones and...

Nasdaq slipped 74 points (1.25%); S&P slipped 18 points (.75%); DJIA slipped 166 points (.75%) at one time before recovering somewhat...

And look at the huge volumes on the drops...

Is this the first sign...?

AIMHO as usual...

PS I'm already up 8% on my VILX investment...

[mronions] 19/10/2017 08:35

any comments from the The Stroker, Charmer, Lango , Emedgate, VanJr, VanHal, Cufe ?

[zho] 18/10/2017 17:51

I'm still puzzled.

The LSE and ADVFN graphs go back to the middle of last year, suggesting that's when trading VILX over here started. Fine.

The Bloomberg graph at goes back 5 years but the numbers don't appear to tally with yours: the current price is given as $18.6 (not $28.6) and price at 4/11/16 is roughly $800 (not $126).

[rougepierre] 18/10/2017 17:29

that's the actual traded ETF...the graph doesn't lie...

you pays your money...

have a good one!

[zho] 18/10/2017 16:52

Hi rougepierre,

Thanks, I've seen that, but it's not telling me very much. It looks like a synthetic ETP from wisdomtree. Am digging around.