Anglo Asian Mining Share Discussion Threads

[bumpa33] 19/12/2018 09:12

Winterfloods have that 50k, there’s a 15 and a 10 offered too. 10k on the bid. WINS tend to be just retail these days, though didn’t check beyond the rsp.

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 09:09

AAZ - HL - Buy 50000 shares at 89.4p on offer, Sell 10000 shares at 87.0001p offered right now,,, so I'd say the seller is still around and share price more likely to fall from here, am I reading this right??? cheers Wan

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 08:59

welcome oakey1, very, very wise move that... I'm sleeping ok at the moment with my AAZ exposure,,, but,,, should it turn down fast and start heading towards my 60p average I'm sure I may have a few sleepless nights and so on....:-) Hopefully, rule number 9, AAZ without a black swan event such as a mine collapse, flood, earthquake, POG crash, war, political unrest, riots, accounting scandals, mercenaries steeling the mine or gold shipments, government doing the same etc etc.... scary :-) lol,,,,,, should be valued at a much higher price than 89p,, to me the risk/reward equation is more biased towards that happening than it not, or the black swan occurring, hence my large position (large for me that is).... As a newbie I've had to wrestle with my decisions all the way through this ride, question everything to try and establish that view without simply taking others (well respected others!!) words for it.... I'm comfortable with it for now, if I lose the lot, I just have to work longer until I can retire,,,, if it goes well I can either retire earlier or raise my living standard in retirement... all good fun right now, but lets see what life's going to throw at us!!! it has a very regular habit of wrecking the best laid plans :-) wish you the very best with all your investments and totally respect your risk approach... thanx for posting, cheers Wan

[bumpa33] 19/12/2018 08:57

Some of the mm’s used to run the stops in big retail favorite stocks, was easy money. Some really horrendously obvious cases in the past, PRM sticks in mind but has happened to many...

Don’t EVER use stops with CFD providers.


Short YU pre market at 85, out at 72.5. Pocket money trade, not enough liquidity - again :(

[oakey1] 19/12/2018 08:47

I don’t use stop losses either
But then again I only play with money I can afford to lose

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 08:47

also, how interesting

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We believe the current system works against the private investor as buys are shown as sells and vise versa according to the ask and bid price set by the market makers at the time of trading. We believe this is wide open to manipulation and misinterprets the facts. We would like to see a new, fair system that will report a trade factually. In turn this will lead to greater transparency on the London Stock Exchanges.

AIM in particular seems manipulated by the Market Makers.
Actually defeating their roll of creating a real and fair market for investors.
Altering spreads to hide the status of transactions isn't transparent.

Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 08:42

from Market Watch;

Another problem with a stop loss order is that when you enter it into the computer, the order is transparent. A game that some market-makers played (these days, it will be computer algorithms) is “run the stops,” when the stock is forced low enough to trigger a large cluster of stop loss orders (usually at round numbers or well-known support and resistance levels). After the stock is sold at a popular stop loss price, the stock reverses direction and rallies.

Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 08:38

Stop Losses - good point bwana, can they see them?
do they appear as orders on MM's systems?
how does that all work??
I will see what I can find on that...
Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 19/12/2018 08:35

good morning all, things look to be winding down for the xmas break, feels very quiet out there, I could use a rest to be honest, sometimes its hard work to keep up with everything :-) cheers Wan

[callmebwana] 19/12/2018 08:35

Good morning all.
Yesterday I mentioned that FFX had taken a bit of a hit. We got a very good RNS at 16.30.It is back up this morning. I bet some stop loses were triggered yesterday.
I don't use stop lose as I think the MM's can see them.

I think the FED would raise interest rates by 1/4% today. They will make a statement that they will not raise any in 2019 unless they see inflation going up too high.
They may have left rates as they were but now can't be seen to back down because of pressure from Trump.He does more harm than good by his Tweets.

Oil..Watch PFC,yesterday there was a trading statement from them. Not bad, it gives a yield of 7%. The share price falls with the price of Oil.There is still investigation pending from the SFO.I think that is all priced in the share price. It used to trade over £10 before the SFO investigation started. I did very well out of it this year.in @ £4.30 out @ £6.50. NAI.

Gold price on the up. See how AAZ preforms today. I hope the big order has been filled and we start our march towards £1.
ATB.

[lefrene] 19/12/2018 05:25

Good to see gold nudging over the $1250 level, can't do AAZ any harm.

[2sporrans] 19/12/2018 00:12

fwliw, i'm expecting Fed to raise tomorrow [Weds.], though a few dissenters.
as Matt says, they don't like to do the unexpected; that gives the impression they aren't keeping abreast of the changing situation nor are their forecasts reliable.
[the donald hasn't helped either, pressuring for a total cessation of rate rises but the perception the fed didn't hold because of trump would be as damaging as they cut because of his pressure.]
the last thing the fed will want to do is to knock increasingly fragile confidence, just as econ. growth is slowing, notwithstanding the slowdown in USA is far less acute than in europe, japan and elsewhere.

1 rise and done for 2019 looks v. likely to me.
Fed continuing to let bonds they hold mature and not repurchase probably won't impact much upon the real economy as it's still flush with liquidity. however rate rises will; just it takes several months to over a year for all the impact to work through.
qt may well reduce demand for financial assets though, gold included.
but hopefully a stabilised, if not depreciating $ will outweigh this qt effect and contribute to a global net rising demand for and price of gold through 2019.

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 23:03

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Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 18:49

ORM - wish I knew how to find a similar chart for tungsten!!!!??? lol

Cheers Wan

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 18:48

AAZ _ gold looking good :-)


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lots of positive indicator trends about & broken out...

Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 18:42

TXP - Oil not looking too clever right now!!!


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lots of warning signs around and broken down now :-)

Cheers
Wan

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 18:16

lol...... :-)

[ntv] 18/12/2018 18:13

exactly, though I might have done to spite him just to see him turn purple instead of the savage orange colour !!

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 17:57

me too NTV, don't let trump get under your skin and raise to spite him!!!!! cheers Wan

[mr roper] 18/12/2018 17:49

He'll raise with a softer outlook for 2019

[ntv] 18/12/2018 17:25

I reckon he might leave rates as they are this month

[ntv] 18/12/2018 17:23

I reckon he will leave rates on hold this time

[wanobi] 18/12/2018 16:58

interesting mattjos, thanx...

and thanx again NTV

cheers Wan

[ntv] 18/12/2018 16:50

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[mattjos] 18/12/2018 16:50

fwiw, I use ADVFN L2 …. have done for 10 years. Arguably not necessary but, when you get familiar with a stock you also get familiar with which MM is dominant & their position on the book can be useful to know at times eg. When Bashirov was selling his AAZ stock, it was clear he used Cantor towards the end and I therefore bought when Cantor were camped on the Offer as buying from them did not tend to move the price.