Apc Technology Share Discussion Threads

[pugugly] 05/1/2016 17:46

Looks as though the big seller is still there unless someone owns up to purchasing 200K at 9p (a late mark so difficult to tell if a buy or sell but given the apparent prior buying activity it suggests a sell)

Could this still be down to pumping ?? I suspect (and know from earlier) that there was a big overhang BUT market action (imo) suggests it may have cleared OR still thre and there is a cheer party whipping up buyers interest.

Very much (imo) a binary bet on whether RH can sharpen up cost control to incrase bottom line percentage.

You pays your money to be in but (imo) no certainty.

Remember House Brokers usually look on the bright side !!

[webpax] 05/1/2016 16:51

It's been a mixed bag re the placings. While the May 2013 placing was for acquisitions, the Dec 2014 and Feb 2015 placings were largely for working capital.

In fact they've raised £6.5m in placings - not much less than the current market cap - in less than three years.

Still it's what happens going forward that counts and Hodgson seems to be doing a better job than his predecessor.

[simon templar qc] 05/1/2016 16:43

Markets look forward not back and by the way take no notice of buys and sells as majority were buys as I said earlier, I should know as I took the 50.

[simon templar qc] 05/1/2016 16:40

I wouldn't worry about a placing guys the balance sheet looked OK so far as I was concerned. The reason for the placings in the past were more necessary for the acquisitions. Otherwise I think the note would have indicated so.

Will have to route the note out and see what I can post. I can probably post some ball part figures on.

As for the losses its more to do with exceptional items so that hasn't concerned me.

Gearing low!

[webpax] 05/1/2016 16:02

Thanks rinson.

The other concern is a potential placing as cash seems tight. We've had one every year for the last 3 years, will 2016 be an exception?

[rinson] 05/1/2016 15:52

webpax, the 1.47 is very close to the 1.5 I heard mentioned a few weeks back so probably correct unless the smoke and mirrors play their part.

Whatever, it's all about current trading and forecast and, not making the crazy errors of last year.

[webpax] 05/1/2016 15:30

Thanks for info Simon and playful - it would be good to see the broker note if someone cares to share but understand if you can't.

Digital Look are quoting pre-tax losses of £1.47m, Stockopedia suggests £5.93m loss.

I'd be interested to know if either of these figures tie in with the broker note.

Re Final Results the date quoted by 3D is last years.

[3dimensional] 05/1/2016 15:18

rinson
22-Jan-15 07:00 RNS Final Results

[playful] 05/1/2016 15:13

The CFE note highlights the fact they had previously assumed that all the exceptionals were a cash charge. It is now more likely that a significant proportion is non-cash meaning a lower cash impact on forecasts.

The 20p target price gives a historic PE of 19.5x. We now forecast 2018 EPS
at 2.2p giving a CAGR of 21% from 2014. This puts the shares on a PEG of 0.9 which is attractive.

I hold a modest amount...

[rinson] 05/1/2016 15:02

Simon and 3D
Firstly I do understand about Cantor and thank you for what you have indicated.

Secondly someone posted that the results would be better than last year on the LSE board this morning and that didn't ring true so I'm glad I waited before committing based on that information.

3D, you mentioned the 22nd. Can you tell me where that date came from as I can't find anything on the Company website about results or AGM. Thanks for the Utube links!

[3dimensional] 05/1/2016 14:52

rinson i think the mkt is telling you there has been a big change results due 22nd but might drop earlier expect loads of esos stuff couple of nice UTW videos today same game big diff in mkt cap very little stock here.

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[simon templar qc] 05/1/2016 14:49

3D and rinson,

Let me think about it! However I will give you limited insight at the moment.

Losses are going to be a few million but mainly due to exceptional items but won't have a major bearing on cash.

The company knows exactly where they are I expect its how to deal with the accounts, there are many ways of presenting the figures.

I will need to refresh on the matter and see what I can post. 2018 forecasts place co on low single pe ration. I can see this share motoring in due course as year progresses.

Cantor held their 20 p target after update in November but bear in mind we are well into new Year now so market will be factoring in 2016/17.

I don't want to be awkward over note but they are confidential so have to be careful what I post. I don't mind giving limited information however.

edit:

Am now holding 200,000

[rinson] 05/1/2016 14:22

Simon, appreciate that Cantor notes are kept private to their clients but can you give an indication of how bad the losses will be. Going forward no problem as the pe is heavily reduced because of the trading hiccup but now that appears to be over I think the share price will motor. Not sure how fast though because I have no idea how bad the profit was last year. That's the only thing holding me back from buying 100k shares.

[3dimensional] 05/1/2016 13:42

Simon Templar QC why not post the broker note m8 and i agree buy pressure mounting

[simon templar qc] 05/1/2016 13:35

Mostly buys today as the larges buy was mine at 50,000!

I put my money where my mouth is I am confident about trading going forward my position is increasing.

I expect a further upgrade after results have checked out latest broker report and longer term prospects in 2 years places company on ridiculous low pe.

[3dimensional] 05/1/2016 13:01

BUY Pressure building buyers at 9.2p wont stay here long results imminent and the mkt has wind of them back to 20p+

[3dimensional] 05/1/2016 13:00

oh dear hatey/sharetips6/trader_mick are removing you on the LSE posts are vanishing FAST

[simon templar qc] 05/1/2016 08:16

Buying pressure increasing by the day now.

[singer8] 04/1/2016 19:42

you are such a fool hatey and tomorrow you will what a fool you are

[singer8] 04/1/2016 18:58

LOL you are so stupid hatey LOL

[sharetips6] 04/1/2016 18:56

What is funny is I finally found which of my twitter followers you were and instantly blocked you mr ian@researcher

:-))

[singer8] 04/1/2016 18:55

LOL you are so stupid hatey LOL

[singer8] 04/1/2016 18:55

how much did you lose on ADSS hatey ??????????????????