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Accsys Technologies Plc LSE:AXS London Ordinary Share GB00BQQFX454 ORD EUR0.05
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.40 0.43% 93.80 92.60 95.00 95.00 92.60 93.20 68,988 16:35:10
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That's BT, I will contact you soon. Have a good weekend. Tight lines.
Spudders I am peter at
Hi BT, I still hold AXS but written off ever breaking even. I lack the enthusiasm to research this crock of ##### anymore as my time is best spent elsewhere. I would love to come over and cast a few flies within the next few weeks. I am hopefully handing over a house to my client soon, so I will get in touch and arrange a date. I assume I will contact you via rodeo rivers or I can put up my email if its easier. All the best, spudders
Was in Hong Kong last week and heard a rumour (good source) that Diamond Wood was going or had already, gone bust... Diamond was their agent over there I think in practice, a license holder. anyone still reading this board may like to comment, I am not doing the in depth research here that I used to do so am out of touch. Spudders, if you want to come over for the start of the brown season there are some good over wintered fish beginning to rise to dry fly plus I put some carp in the main lake to keep the weed down, these take a nymph and can be a surprise on a 5# rod...
Actually its the Shortbridge River that runs into the Ouse 1/2 mile above the Uck, and the Batts Stream joins on the property, thats where the sea trout run up into, and here too, some over 10lbs. There are a few surprise fish in the lake that will take a fly to keep it interesting, one is 70lbs bring a decent rod. You can contact me through
bt - Certainly will check in next spring, I assume its the Uck that runs through. Many happy days in my youth fishing Isfield Mill/ Worth Farm :)) Be lucky.
SPudders, you must have seen my flyforum posts as yes, I do have some lakes but I live there so they are not open to public but I do invite local fly fishers over. the main lake 8 acres, is stocked with browns mainly but has a good run of sea trout as its actually a dammed section of an Ouse tributary, the others are cropping lakes, mainly carp and tench and not fished at all, apart from by cormorants. Its closed season now but check me out in the spring when the dry fly is best.
bt- Yep still here with my heavy loss. Still hold though. Lost interest in AXS just check in every now and then. I believe you have a lake which you have stocked with trout, if its a day ticket maybe next season I could have a go at hooking a couple of rainbows, much more fun than watching the AXS share price. I hope you make a decent living from your exports. All the best, spudders
Looky, thanks, have been in touch, similar products in timber, slightly different features, pricing very similar. Privately owned.
brightontrader You should look at Lignia. Looks like a hardwood and has the durability of Accoya. I understand it is manufactured in New Zealand from the same pine as Accoya
I see quite a drift downwards, oh dear. Spudders, if you still visit this board, I live in Maresfield, was Brighton hence screen name) and also have a joinery firm, though not in Lewes, but down the road a bit in Guang Dong. I currently produce 3 x 40 foot high cube containers for the UK every 5 days on average of timber and MDF shutters, and now am making an engineered waterproof shutter in ABS, but our best seller is a n engineered MDF product with polypropylene coating, we are now about to make same product with a waterproof mdf filler and drop the ABS product because the cost of ABS is too unstable. The tricoya would do the job but it prices the product we want to produce out of the volume end of where we want this product to compromising and hoping that an added PP coating on "waterproof" mdf will cope.. I keep hoping that this company will make it and would like to use the products, and will when the price becomes more realistic, I will also invest in the shares too, big time when I can see this happen. Sadly cannot right now, management costs are still top heavy. Holland is probably the most expensive country in Europe to live, and staff costs there are huge. My manufacturing partners just shut their european offices in the Hague because of this and relocated.
I was involved in importing MDF when it first came onto the market, (imported from Zealand). It was a hard sell, as it was at least double the price of chipboard, slowly but surely manufacturers began to use it because even though the product was more expensive, different methods of manufacture were employed which made it cost effective. I wouldn't be at all suprised to find the same scenario with accoya/Tricoya. The other thing to bear in mind, is that uses may well be found for accoya/tricoya where timber is not currently used. With regards to window frames, when it becomes apparent that the upkeep of accoya over the lifetime of the window will probably be many times cheaper, plus it will keep it's appearance longer, it is likely to be viewed as a far supperior product. If it was all down to the price of the timber, there wouldn't be any hardwood frames. Am not yet a a shareholder, but just starting to have another look. Cheers Iasike
monopoly or virtual monopoly, presume the latter. If so there must be a reason why joinery forms don't buy accoya and that would be that its an extra sell because it more expensive. When I first offered FSC registered timber shutters I had to charge 15% more for the products, no one wanted to pay and my sales staff said they had better things to do with their sales time.Same thing. The marketing Accsys do must cost loads, always huge stands at expos , lots of marketing and management staff, maybe they should do what I did to become market leader, cut management, cut marketing and lowered prices, and let the price and product do the talking. When you have investors in high tech businesses that are floated its all about sizzle, or it was in the boom years, never mind the profit, how is this for a story, the computer industry realised that they had to produce profits eventually and this died down a bit, but not here.
bt - westgate have a monopoly for Accoya in South East. If you are replacing windows you would be better off buying the timber through International Timber and getting a local joiner to construct them. If you want a few joiner's numbers, let me know as I used to have my own joinery in BN7. Lots of alternatives being produced using engineered timber on the market, but I still keep holding AXS at a loss :(
BT - Personally I would never use a polythene wrapper on softwood fence posts; water can enter from above and just stay there in the wrapper. I would rather coat the base of the posts in bitumen paint and set them in concrete - which to my mind would seem to make the whole thing more expensive, and mean more work. Then of course the above ground sections and fence panels (or rails) have to be regularly treated too. I know most land owners just let them fail and replace them when they fall off. That is why I would choose Accoya, rather than treated softwood, and oak would be out of the question because of the price of oak. That is also why I can't understand why building a jetty out of oak would turn out to be less expensive than using Accoya...unless the reason is the limited size of the products available (at the moment). As for window frames and shutters, they may well last a long time above ground, but that is because they are nowhere near the soil (unless you include window boxes) and regularly painted. Accoya however, does not need to be painted, wherever it is, and looks a lot better for it - at least to my eyes. I don't believe guarantees which last 20 years, however well intentioned. The company may have disappeared by then. You either trust the product to last that long or you don't. PS. I'm not thinking of digging out my old fence posts just yet, so no quotes please :-)
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Also should add that wood rots but not as quickly as you may think. Look around London at sash windows, some are over 150 years old, most are 100, made of pine mainly, they are rotting but still there largely. Modern paint systems can allow timber window manufacturers to offer 20 year guarantees.
When you put in fence posts you use a polythene wrapper below the and at ground level in acidic soil, cost .05p.. I have a 40 acre estate with about 3/4 mile of post and rail. I also posted while ago I looked at building a jetty with accoya and it was really expensive compared with Oak or greenheart and came in limited sawn widths 75x100mm from memory (at timber merchant stockists), had to bolt 2 sections together, its not as simple as you think, as using treated pine.(The stainless steel bolts pushed the price up too.) TSK, at the risk of appearing a know it all, I should add that I am in the timber products manufacturing business with a T/O of £10M+ and own the company, so know a bit about timber..25% of all shutters sold here in the UK are made by me. a prime market you would think for accoya, even says so on their website, however we looked and could not make it work for us, because of price. Benefit was not great enough. Am still looking though and having some windows quoted in accoya by When price gets to the right level it will sell.
I'm not so sure... "Good morning sir" "Good morning. I'd like two dozen fence posts please" "Okey Dokey. How old are you sir?" "Me? I'm sixty four" "You'll be wanting some preservative as well then...for the fence posts I mean" "Will I?" "Oh yes, unless you want your fence to fall over when you're sixty five" "How much will that cost me?" "That depends" "Depends? On what?" "On how long you live. You can keep coming back to buy 5 litres each year - or you can buy 100 litres now and keep your fingers crossed" "Have you anything better? Apart from five tons of bricks?" "Of course. Accoya" "Bless you"
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Reality kicked in...timber is sold on price.....price is too high. Its the facebook of the timber world only much worse.
I wish I knew what happened on the 9th February 2011.
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Results look a bit dull, more of the same, drip drip losses, more marketing spend, companies not honouring license agreement promises. Looks like some good selling goes on and then the companies concerned get buyers remorse. They talk about tough trading conditions for timber products and blame results on this, not true. The timber window business is growing, my shutter business is growing, in fact I have moved into windows as well because of the growth. My guess is that the coatings you can use today give 30 year protection for a lot less than the premium for accoya and 30 years is plenty of guarantee for most people. you really only have to look at victorian terrace Sash Windows, these are 120 years old and some are still OK although need replacing now because single glazed, you would think accoya would score here but no one does a house up for 2 generations ahead, they do it for the lowest price that works and looks good..
The Russians are coming? Zurab Lysov Owner, SWIFTLINES Location Russian Federation Industry Transportation / Trucking / Railroad
Good news, mentions it on the bp. page as well so bit of exposure there...
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