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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Accsys Technologies Plc LSE:AXS London Ordinary Share GB00BQQFX454 ORD EUR0.05
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  10.40 12.01% 97.00 95.60 97.00 107.00 87.80 88.40 1,644,050 13:42:56
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 83.6 1.3 1.8 53.5 159

Accsys Technologies Share Discussion Threads

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15/8/2010
19:49
Overhang from 4 Aug 2010 should be clear this week and patient holders begin to see some positive gains. I declare a modest holding...........
ebomber
10/8/2010
13:28
This Youtube video shows the Accoya production process - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZM2njWxgxM
pifedayo
10/8/2010
13:15
agreement to open a new factory in China doesnt seem bad.
pezza4
10/8/2010
13:05
Still an overvalued bag of spanners. Minimal sales; massive losses; cash running low; dodgy contracts. Years from profits - I'd rather invest in a back street garage.
philjeans
09/8/2010
08:47
Seriously, though, I presume you would find it here ? info.redhotpennyshares.co.uk/company/aboutus
asmodeus
09/8/2010
08:11
Where is it? I would like to read it.
horneblower
09/8/2010
08:04
The tip reads very well - nice to see price moving in the right direction!
32fred
07/8/2010
20:53
Rocky Horror Picture Show? :)
asmodeus
07/8/2010
10:11
I hear its been tipped by RHPS yesterday so should bring a lot of interest and a much needed boost to the share price
pezza4
07/8/2010
10:01
Why, Robson?
asmodeus
06/8/2010
16:46
well done to long suffering axs holders, you might want to be up early on Monday :-p
robson1974
04/8/2010
13:24
tbone - i agree entirely that the Company should be marketing (promoting) the product, and are so-doing, in fact. But that's different from actually selling it (to the end user, or retailer)if, by that you mean literally invoicing it, delivering it, chasing payment etc.
asmodeus
04/8/2010
11:51
Distributors of timber are a valuable market, especially for outside timbers, as that is where builders get their timber from. As distributors have to buy in stock too it does generate cash and gets the name out there. whether the distributor's salepeople then sell it to their punters is another matter and always the most perplexing problem for product manufacturers. Only marketing can get what a distributor will always say to a manufacturer, "my customers do/don't ask for this" . If the product is too expensive for what it does then yo will get the don't bit. I don't know what the split is that Accsys look for between distributors and product manufacturers that will use the treated timber, or what is is generally in the timber market but I would suspect that in soft woods its proportionately with distributors. Hardwood the other way around, ie: furniture makers, shutters etc made in large factories. So they are doing the right thing presumably, it comes down to price again. This recession has caused a lot of businesses to look at their operating margins, mine for instance, on one product area I liked to double up, now I am contemplating reducing to say 35% from 50% to take remaining share and am looking again at reducing overheads to compensate. Better to have 35% of a lot...
brightontrader
04/8/2010
10:52
Asmodeus, I had not intended to suggest that AXS should be selling direct to the public, but merely that there appears to be something wrong with this emphasis on more distributors, and that this emphasis appears to be symptomatic of failure rather than success. However, going on from there it is notable that the model of distribution which you (and apparently they) envisage, probably does not work in the markets which I have suggested as most suitable for the product. In these sort of places the product does have to be marketed to the end user in one way or another, for things tend to be bought by brand name (because in a difficult environment there is a lot of stuff which simply does not work). There needs to be some sort of outlet or salesman pushing the particular product until it becomes sufficiently established to be sold by word of mouth. Tbow
tbow112
03/8/2010
18:04
Keep away from TNT, though :)
asmodeus
03/8/2010
17:18
Well I understand distribution more than anything else as effectively I am one, so I agree with asmodus, I have to;=) I have been in the process of setting up a meeting to see if there is further progress we can make and also had more discussions with my manufacturer in China and the story is thus: They feel that the product is only interesting for external applications (which its undoubtably designed for) although we have some interest for waterproof internal apps such as bathroom products, but these are relatively low volume, for us. However the process is relatively easy to emulate should you wish to, and any close contact with them would bring on law suits quicker than if you developed a similar product totally independently of them. Ie: less risk of accidental infringement of patents, like a song writer not wanting to get too inspired by someone else I guess. Of course a chinese large manufacturer would only think like this if it was cheaper to produce this material themselves and invest in the process if the other route was too expensive, ie: buying licenses or even raw material. And trust me, this is exactly how large Chinese manufacturers think. So once again it comes down to price and if the material is too expensive to produce right now against alternatives, and you cannot add the marketing "green" element onto the products price then you have a problem. I would love to have a product made in this material as it would help me in a number of ways and the timbers we use now are only 7 to 9% of a shutters cost, but there is a large cost in changing even a timber when you guaranteee the products stability for 3 years due to lifecycle testing, machine changes etc, not to mention buying a large enough qty to make it worthwhile. Of course these is also the mdf product, this may in fact be the one that flies. We use huge quantities of MDf now and its problem has always been moisture take up and swelling. Also the strength in mdf is in the skin largely, when you machine it you get a very porous surface, and rough too with fibre nibs, whether this is negated or not I have yet to discover. I play around with a large SIPP and some I gamble and some I stick in Centrica and the like for divis. I would only put money I was prepared to completely lose in this one right now on the information I have got so far. Hence my presence on this board. For those locals, I just moved from bn3 to tn22....its a different climate out here.
brightontrader
03/8/2010
14:10
I beg to differ, tbow (1225). It would be a bad move to try selling direct to users. Far better to have, say, 20 Distributors (wholesalers), and let them have the responsibility to run a delivery service and hundreds of relatively small accounts. It would certainly be disastrous for Accsys to sell direct to users on the same terms as to distributors - or to start selling to users and then having to change their terms after appointing distyributors.
asmodeus
03/8/2010
12:41
Also most poeple do not buy timber to last 50 years, they move house every few years and don't want to pay more than they have to. It certainly seems that AXS have failed to locate a market where their product has a significant competitive advantage. It seems to me that there are regions in the world (eg mountainous parts of France, West coast of Scotland) where the weather may ensure that the virtues of Accoya (particularly dimensional stability) make it superior to any other product and that it would be worthwhile paying a premium price. However AXS seem to have set up their distribution so that the product does not even get to these markets. In particular I do not understand the emphasis on signing up distributors; it seems simply to illustrate a failure to sell the product to the end user.
tbow112
02/8/2010
19:39
Interesting discussion. damanko - I know "Clegg the Elder", he's a great guy and would appreciate the product feedback. (Critical comment often gets diluted by management before it reaches the top!) K.
kramch
02/8/2010
19:26
And I live in BN6 !
asmodeus
02/8/2010
18:54
brightontrader, Excellent posts, thanks for taking the time, every potential investor needs some education, especially if they think long term (as I tend to). Funnily enough, I'm in BN1, and I think you're based in RH15, so just around the corner. Take your point about people and houses, however I imagine their target market is the housebuilders, not the DIY market. I'm minded to send some of this stuff to Clegg The Elder, if you have no objections? AXS (should) need to know what potential customers think of their product, and their pricing policy. With this stuff marketing is key, and if they are fobbing customers off in the way you write, then something is wrong.
damanko
02/8/2010
13:41
Where did you read the price was competitive? Last time we looked it was expensive compared with tropical FSC hardwoods which have almost the same life cycle. When you make products telling the customer they have to pay more for eco doesn't work. Also most poeple do not buy timber to last 50 years, they move house every few years and don't want to pay more than they have to. The reason this is interesting is that the default on Diamond licenses has made them sit up and smell the coffee, or should have done.
brightontrader
02/8/2010
13:15
I too liked the Sunday Times piece and was interested to read that the price is competitive. If you are comparing it to balsa wood I would imagine that it is pricey, people are obviously buying the product - the fact that it is guaranteed for 50 yrs is a bit more compelling. In terms of an investment, I like the messages coming out of this one and will dip in and watch.
ell1ot
02/8/2010
08:10
I never invested in this, but have a holding in a private, unlisted company that did. Now wondering if, after all the hype and un-hype, whether it might be worth a punt. At this level it may be a good time to get in, and forget it for a while. Any idea what Clegg The Elder's background is?
damanko
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