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[asmodeus] 19/1/2012 16:15

Before you get too carried away, important to read posts 1305 and 1307, by an actual timber merchant.

[dunluce] 19/1/2012 15:43

Been here for some time( a few years ) and made a few pounds on trading but currently under water on longer term hold. I have always felt that both Accoya and Tricoya have huge potential - hence the longer term hold and still feel they will increase in volume even if I no longer have blue sky figures in mind. Cost has been discussed as a hurdle a number of times on various BBs with no definitive arguments put forward ( as I see it ) either way.

[tap3] 19/1/2012 14:32

Suspect it could be too expensive to take off? Anyone know?

[damanko] 19/1/2012 13:11

Depends what the definition of long term is, I guess.... Investors who sold out a few years ago at three Euros plus and banked the money will probably look at this now and think: LIGHTNING doesn't ......

[nw99] 19/1/2012 12:53

Long term this could be a winner

[tap3] 19/1/2012 12:10

New into AXS Seems a good product but needs recognition? That ineligant, cumbersome bridge avertised on the web site does the product no favours!

[ukjerry] 19/1/2012 11:46

I'm here (not 'still' as never been here before). Interesting play, not necessarily for fundamental reasons. - Brother of Deputy Prime Minister as Director so must be well networked/connected. - Finance Director is German and new factory in Germany - one of the better Euro economies. - Business is linked to construction industry cycles, housebuilding etc so should be straightforward to recognise growth and shrink opportunities. - Product technology is fundamentally sound and low-tech - Portfolio speaks to the green lobby as does not destroy hardwood real estate. On balance I think we are in the early stages of what over the next five years could be an excellent stock to have in a pension fund. Shame it's not FTSE as it would be an excellent ISA candidate.

[dylanl2] 19/1/2012 08:53

Yes, didn't sell as I may have implied - intruiging. Although I've invested I know very little on this one and it's a bit of a play...

[lufc5] 19/1/2012 08:49

Pretty much doubled since end of Nov'. Anyone still here????.....lol

[ptgint] 20/12/2011 17:02

I've been thinking the same Dylant..........just intrigued as to why its slow movement upwards.

[dylanl2] 19/12/2011 13:41

Agree, the market is seldom wrong - would it be prudent to move any money here elsewhere as we stand? I'm thinking it probably will be....

[damanko] 17/12/2011 21:15

selowen - could well be a who cares question. A few years ago this was 'worth' well over 3 Euros a share. I got out at two and something, very much doubt ACCYS will get close to those heady levels again. The market now rates this a complete dog. The market is seldom wrong. Please turn off the lights........................

[selowen] 17/12/2011 12:12

how much cash lefT?

[asmodeus] 16/12/2011 20:49

"Accsys (Cleggs) needs partners to grow"....

[5benny] 16/12/2011 18:24

Quiet here - anyone watching this dog? I see it had a bit of a rise today probably due to a mention in Money Week by Tom Bulford. http://www.moneyweek.com/investment-advice/penny-shares/2012-could-be-the-year-for-this-intriguing-penny-share-56815?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Money%2BMorning

[brightontrader] 15/9/2011 13:14

I suspect that the move was becuase of Cleggs statement about not losing as much money as usual...

[ebomber] 14/9/2011 09:44

Following a year of considerable change and challenges, I am optimistic about the future. We now have the right team in place that is focused on delivering increased sales and further improvements to our technology and processes. We continue to target the signing of a total of at least 30 distribution, agency or supply agreements and our objective of establishing Accoya® wood as a truly global brand. Together these are expected to deliver the level of sales which will result in the Arnhem plant breaking even and ultimately moving into overall profitability, even without taking account of any licence income. The progress in negotiating new licence agreements has been steady but we strongly believe the longer term value of Accsys continues to be in its ability to licence our technology. I am pleased by the progress made in the on-going development of Medite Tricoya®. This ground-breaking new composite panel product is being developed with our joint development partner, Medite Europe Limited, and delivers a new degree of reliability in exterior and wet interior applications. Significantly, the Building Research Establishment (BRE) carried out independent testing that concluded Medite Tricoya could meet demands for a desired service life of 60 years when used in exterior applications. Three industrial production trials have successfully been carried out over the last year and I am confident that following further production and market trials, the commercial feasibility stage of the development will be concluded. While wider economic conditions remain challenging, we are confident that Accsys is well placed, in particular we believe the longer term trend to move away from unsustainable tropical hardwoods will lead to ever growing demand for Accsys' superior, environmentally focused products. Finally, I am delighted to announce that the first Accsys Worldwide Conference will take place in Arnhem from 13-15 September, 2011, with a representative from each of our distributors worldwide invited. The conference will facilitate the sharing of ideas and knowledge and enable the showcasing of new products, projects and sales support tools. It will also provide a forum for highlighting opportunities and attendees will have the chance to visit our plant and see live projects in situ. Paul Clegg Chief Executive Officer

[ebomber] 14/9/2011 09:30

3 day dealer / distributor conference that started yesterday!!!

[dunluce] 14/9/2011 06:50

Anyone know anything to cause the upsurge?

[lufc5] 13/9/2011 17:58

Most of trades in last 5 mins. Could be interesting in the morning.

[spudders] 13/9/2011 17:44

Big move today, something happening at last :)

[brightontrader] 11/8/2011 07:12

The interims are showing a company in slow motion......trying to survive and pay the directors. For all the noise and marketing for instance, 90,000 visitors to website over a year is pretty poor, I have an old ecommerce site www.discountblindcentre.co.uk that gets this in unique visitors (8-9000 a month) with no marketing whatsoever and just me as a director, and this is just one of my sites. The MDF is interesting and this may be the key for the future. MDf is not used in potentially damp/wet place due to absorbtion and swelling unless expensively treated, we for instance extrude plastic coating (PP)using expensive tooling and another process over spindle molded MDF as mdf also has most strength in skin, so when cut loses this. Maybe the Medite product counters these properties, but at what price. Get the price right then you are into some serious sales. The factory that I use for my shutters would buy more MDF a year than all of Accsys' turnover, and thats just one factory. So there is a story here but really, what price is the mdf going to go out at, if this is competitive with mdf using 2-3 stage processes to get the same result then it will sell.If its priced too high it simply will not, as manufacturers already have processes to achieve the results they want. It has to offer significant savings over other processes it replaces. When we looked at this product a while back the mdf (future) was interesting, although not available, only an investor sizzle story. 11 years ago I was employed by a dotcom as Sales director, they had written some software that didn't work basically and booked at stand at Comdex in Vegas at £100K plus, I wanted to cancel the show and use the money to re write the software but the board outvoted me because they needed the sizzle to keep the investors happy. I left and bought the office furniture and computers a few weeks later for £1000 from the administrators when I started my own company.(Parable of the week)

[spudders] 10/8/2011 13:01

Anyone interested in the interims, things are looking up. I need this to 10 bag to break even :( still like the product but not convinced the building trade will embrace Accoya until the price is alot cheaper.

[brightontrader] 31/5/2011 11:15

I still watch this board as hope product makes it, but still think that problem lies in price,as link below supplied by Gio demonstrates clearly. Cost to buy is more than anything else, even if cost of ownership is better over time, this does not take into account (I think) inflation. So capital cost is high. Only really makes sense for a municipal project where that investment is necessary and councillors can argue their choice was a long term decision. http://www.cleantechinvestor.com/portal/documents/Presentation_Accsys_15sept10.pdf For my shutters I have found a timber (cannot say it s name for commercial reasons, or where it comes from) but its cheap, plentiful, has good properties, is a fast growing hardwood and has FSC status, resists water, is harvestable in 8 years for our purposes, 4 years for fibre for MDF, and so good we are leasing several 1000 of hectares to grow this specifically so have guaranteed supply. Compared to Accoya its less than a 1/4 the price.......adn will last, as an interior product longer than the buyer will live, job done. for exterior, tiny market in UK, holland is a bigger market, it may be still be interesting, but its still a lot more than western red cedar, thats the price point they have to match.

[giovannina] 12/5/2011 23:39

Tests conducted by the BRE have shown that windows made from Accoya wood can last up to 60 years. Accoya is a timber that has undergone a treatment process called acetylation that enhances natural timber's durability. The BRE conducted field tests over 13 years that demonstrated acetylated timber lasted longer than wood treated using ASA preservatives.;o)