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Posted at 07/10/2016 17:25 by rarther In dotcom times this was called Time2Learn. The only thing anyone has learned in these 2 decades is not to invest in this jam tomorrow investor fleecing vehicle. When their ship does finally come in one day investors will not see a penny. There is no reason for them to be listed other than for fleecing investors for cash and then devaluing the company for the eventual discounted MBO.They should rename it Caveat Emptor Plc |
Posted at 07/10/2016 09:34 by the patient investor just sent this to investors relationswhy dont u do the same? Will they care to reply? investor.relations@p To Whom it may concern. Briefly, I would like to know if you still intend to publish your results today as per recent announcement and, if not, why. Many thanks. Best regards Mr Impatient, share holder |
Posted at 07/10/2016 08:36 by mally6 patient investor not very patient r u it will come what's in it remains to b seen |
Posted at 04/12/2015 08:57 by rarther Can anyone believe one Mr. Donald Stewart has joined Fitbug PLC and claimed to have successfully increased the sales and headcount at Progility? Apparently he "was involved in the implementation of its growth strategy, taking it from a GBP17m turnover business with around 80 employees to a GBP60m turnover business with nearly 700 employees in the UK, Middle East, India and Australia by 2015".So which Progility investors will also be backing fitbug under the command of Mr Stewart? Sign below... |
Posted at 17/8/2015 13:58 by graham1ty And Growth Company Investor tipped PGY at 7.87p in January 2015. How come they are 2.75p now Wayne and everyone has lost 65% of their money Wayne |
Posted at 06/12/2013 13:24 by graham1ty Smithie I had not yet posted my ILX EGM report on this new board. So that anyone suckered into PGY gets a bit more background, here it is ( written in Oct):I am sorry if this is long, but only four shareholders bothered turning up. The following is all just my opinion. DYOR. I attended the AGM and EGM of ILX on 3 Oct 2013. Price 8.5p, market cap £3.3m ILX held an EGM to approve the reverse takeover of the new CEO's Australian interests. This will give his Concert Party 86% of the equity and dilutes existing independent ILX holders down to 14% of the equity. Background. ILX is a training company, quoted on AIM for years. They train via presentations, apps and online, mainly in project management. After some disastrous acquisitions, training stopping dead in the City, a bit of debt and excessive Director Pay ( paid £4.7m over ten years, the former CEO taking £2.4m from 2002-12) this was on its knees and the share price dropped over 90% under the helm of Chair Paul Lever. In Aug 2012 "white knight", Wayne Bos, an Australian entrepreneur, injected some cash, then more cash, ending up with 29%, some juicy warrants at 10p, cleared out the expensive Board but found more of a mess than he expected. There has been enormous restructuring, a change of Head Office, two new Board members and write offs of £2.4m in the year to 30 June, just reported. WB had undoubtedly saved the Company. Did ILX have a future ? The Annual Report shows that the turnaround was substantially completed. Costs were down, revenue was steady, debt was under control ( though there were still large net current liabilities) and the Board reported "adjusted Profit before tax of £1.1m" which translate into 3.8p according to new house brokers WHIreland. There had been a couple of bolt on acquisitions for revenue, further cost savings and the Board reported that "the full benefit of the resulting reductions in operating costs are not expected to be reflected until the new financial year" so things looked on the turn for this undervalued business, supposedly on a historic adjusted p/e of under 3x. The bolt from down under. With the announcement of results came a reverse acquisition of Wayne Bos' Australian telecoms interests into ILX. He ( and a few other co-owners, together the Concert Party) would be issued 159m shares ( above the current 40m) and the Concert Party would own up to 86% of the enlarged business, to be renamed Progility ( henceforth I hope nicknamed Prodigality.....look it up, it means excess. The Prodigal son ( WB?) was so called because of his excess, not because he came home). The AGM was a formality. I will say here that, due to a family bereavement, the Executive Chairman was not present ( and he missed the last AGM, so I have not met the Prodigal Son). The EGM. Paul Lever, the sole survivor ( £39,000, pretty good for a non-Exec) chaired the meeting in the absence of Wayne Bos. First, and most objectionably, the Chair tried to stop questions before the vote. One of the (rather wet) Directors stated that "all information for shareholders was in the Offer Document" but within minutes, and a few questions, it was quite clear there were many unanswered questions. There followed c30 minutes of questioning before the voting began. Valuation methodology. There is nothing in the Offer Document to justify the valuation given to the Oz businesses. On questioning, it turned out the SOLE non-Exec Paul Lever ( representing us shareholders, remember) had not even been to see the potential acquisition !!! The Board stonewalled, relying on valuations done by outside advisers. And were these advisers independent of the Company ? No, ILX' own advisers SPARK. There was no attempt in the document, or in the meeting, to justify the valuation of £16m placed on those interests. Apparently Grant Thornton had looked at the numbers. There was no indication whether they had just checked the numbers or whether they had been asked to give an opinion on the quantum: I assume the former. Value of Progility. Progility lost A$2.2m last year on revenue of $41m. The previous year there were losses of $100,000. The Balance Sheet looks no better with cash outflows in the last three years of $400k, $3m then $2.5m in 2013. They borrowed another net $3.5m in 2012 and another $3.2m in 2013. Net assets in the balance sheet are $600,000, yes £370,000. Net tangible assets are NEGATIVE $3.7m. They have loans of $7.5m from their shareholders. I asked the question whether they were only solvent because of related party borrowing and got a non-answer about "private companies". I asked about Bearcom, which provides $19m out of $41m turnover. This appears from Note 23 to have been bought in March 2012 for $2.3m, or £1.33m. I asked about the valuation of Bearcom and there was stony and embarrassed silence. I am not sure the Board were being deceitful, I just had no confidence they knew intimately what they were buying. Paul Lever tripped himself up at one point when saying that he had extensive discussions with Wayne Bos about the valuation of the business.....but, er, the document states quite clearly, that as a related party, "Wayne Bos has not taken part in any of the Board's deliberations". Another shareholder asked about potential profits. ILX had in the past, he stated being making operating margins of 10%. From the limited information on the Australian businesses, operating margin had never been higher than 3.5%. So, a business that will contribute c 60% of the enlarged groups turnover of £40m, and has made losses of each of the last two years is valued at £16m. ILX, making an adjusted £1.1m is valued in the market at £3.3m. ILX had net assets of £6.6m.....it gets 20% of the equity. Prodigality had net assets of £370,000 and gets 80% of the equity. Eps, brokers and undisclosed material. It was stated ( as a stone walling technique by the Board) that all relevant information is in the Offer Document. There was therefore a very important disclosue made in answer to a different question. I asked how the market was possibly going to value a hodge-podge of interests, much in Australia. Was there a plan for a dual listing ? : No. Who would follow ? "WHIreland our new brokers have already put out new forecasts". I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE THIS AS A RETAIL INVESTOR, PRECLUDED FROM SEEING INSTITUTIONAL RESEARCH. I have a copy in front of me now. First WHI have no clue what the new business is and there is no description of it and no indication they have visited it. However they must have been fed some numbers as their representative was perfectly willing verbally to reveal their forecasts: adjusted pretax of £1.7m to June 2014 and £2.5m to 2015, giving eps of 0.82p and 0.98p. So, inadvertently, they had disclosed that Prodigality would add little to ILX proforma of £1.1m for this last year AND that eps would be diluted four fold by the massive equity issue. WHERE DID IT SAY IN THE OFFER DOCUMENT THAT THIS ACQUISITION WOULD BE MASSIVELY DILUTIVE AND REDUCE EPS BY 75%. The value of ILX shares without the takeover ? While there were no forecasts on the existing ILX business available, we were certainly being told that progress was being made, that the bulk of the cost savings were done, and that the ship was stable. Would ILX have traded on just 3x earnings ? Without the Prodigality acquisition ( and the 20% drop in the ILX price on the announcement) one would have hope the Board would have considered the shares undervalued at 10p ? The Prodigal Son had made his investment at 10p, and either he is a bad investor, or presumably he wanted to make a return on his investment and thought ILX was worth more than 10p ? I asked the SOLE non-Exec, the sweaty Paul Lever, whether all options had been considered and whether there was greater value to shareholders in other routes, such as a trade sale. I got a straight bat answer that everything had been considered, which I personally did not believe. The value of Prodigality ? Loss making Australian interests ( in transition apparently), no visibility, a broker's note saying eps fall from 3.8p to 0.82p ? And not really any growth the following year ? How would you value that ? 5x ? 8x ? 6p ? 8p ? certainly less than the pre announcement 10p. The EGM. I suppose I must report that shareholder indifference rules. There were three other shareholders present, only myself and one other asked any questions. The acquisition was steam rollered through. My only, vague, vague hope is that I believe the Board when they say the two other main shareholders Octopus and Peter Ward voted for the deal. Octopus had a big holding of ILX at much higher levels ( 2m at 25p in Jan 2010) . They then took part in a first bail out, taking 5.4m shares at 26p. These have both been disastrous investments. Rather than jumping ship, voting against the Prodigality acquisition and trying to get some value out of ILX, they have jumped on the bandwagon. Maybe someone wants to go and visit the Company during the forthcoming Ashes ? The Board. Noone from Prodigality is joining the Board. Board meetings will be held in London. I find that very odd. Have to rely on the Prodigal Son providing all the info on his businesses. We were introduced to a new Board Member, about to be appointed ( new information, not in the Offer Document). It turns out he has known the Prodigal Son for three years, so we do NOT have another independent non-Exec. Share price. A Takeover Panel waiver was granted so that the Prodigal Son did not have to back his investment and actually buy ILX. The Concert Party that will now hold up to 86% of the Company includes a few minority Australian shareholders. I am not sure who will be precluded from buying in the market, but given the waiver I think the main man cannot do anything, in the market, to support the share price. Not sure who else will. A few private shareholders will suddenly realise they own Prodigality and will sell. Who would buy ? Noone know the business now ? Eps are down the pan for a number of years of uncertainty. I believe existing shareholders have been well and truly shafted. We await the return of the Prodigal Son to see if he is welcomed home As always I welcome any feedback from the Board. I apologise for any unintentional errors and will immediately correct them on request. Chambers Dictionary: "Prodigality......st |
Posted at 06/12/2013 13:23 by graham1ty I am posting on the PGY boards my EGM comments from October. I am sorry if this is long, but only four shareholders bothered turning up. The following is all just my opinion. DYOR.I attended the AGM and EGM of ILX on 3 Oct 2013. Price 8.5p, market cap £3.3m ILX held an EGM to approve the reverse takeover of the new CEO's Australian interests. This will give his Concert Party 86% of the equity and dilutes existing independent ILX holders down to 14% of the equity. Background. ILX is a training company, quoted on AIM for years. They train via presentations, apps and online, mainly in project management. After some disastrous acquisitions, training stopping dead in the City, a bit of debt and excessive Director Pay ( paid £4.7m over ten years, the former CEO taking £2.4m from 2002-12) this was on its knees and the share price dropped over 90% under the helm of Chair Paul Lever. In Aug 2012 "white knight", Wayne Bos, an Australian entrepreneur, injected some cash, then more cash, ending up with 29%, some juicy warrants at 10p, cleared out the expensive Board but found more of a mess than he expected. There has been enormous restructuring, a change of Head Office, two new Board members and write offs of £2.4m in the year to 30 June, just reported. WB had undoubtedly saved the Company. Did ILX have a future ? The Annual Report shows that the turnaround was substantially completed. Costs were down, revenue was steady, debt was under control ( though there were still large net current liabilities) and the Board reported "adjusted Profit before tax of £1.1m" which translate into 3.8p according to new house brokers WHIreland. There had been a couple of bolt on acquisitions for revenue, further cost savings and the Board reported that "the full benefit of the resulting reductions in operating costs are not expected to be reflected until the new financial year" so things looked on the turn for this undervalued business, supposedly on a historic adjusted p/e of under 3x. The bolt from down under. With the announcement of results came a reverse acquisition of Wayne Bos' Australian telecoms interests into ILX. He ( and a few other co-owners, together the Concert Party) would be issued 159m shares ( above the current 40m) and the Concert Party would own up to 86% of the enlarged business, to be renamed Progility ( henceforth I hope nicknamed Prodigality.....look it up, it means excess. The Prodigal son ( WB?) was so called because of his excess, not because he came home). The AGM was a formality. I will say here that, due to a family bereavement, the Executive Chairman was not present ( and he missed the last AGM, so I have not met the Prodigal Son). The EGM. Paul Lever, the sole survivor ( £39,000, pretty good for a non-Exec) chaired the meeting in the absence of Wayne Bos. First, and most objectionably, the Chair tried to stop questions before the vote. One of the (rather wet) Directors stated that "all information for shareholders was in the Offer Document" but within minutes, and a few questions, it was quite clear there were many unanswered questions. There followed c30 minutes of questioning before the voting began. Valuation methodology. There is nothing in the Offer Document to justify the valuation given to the Oz businesses. On questioning, it turned out the SOLE non-Exec Paul Lever ( representing us shareholders, remember) had not even been to see the potential acquisition !!! The Board stonewalled, relying on valuations done by outside advisers. And were these advisers independent of the Company ? No, ILX' own advisers SPARK. There was no attempt in the document, or in the meeting, to justify the valuation of £16m placed on those interests. Apparently Grant Thornton had looked at the numbers. There was no indication whether they had just checked the numbers or whether they had been asked to give an opinion on the quantum: I assume the former. Value of Progility. Progility lost A$2.2m last year on revenue of $41m. The previous year there were losses of $100,000. The Balance Sheet looks no better with cash outflows in the last three years of $400k, $3m then $2.5m in 2013. They borrowed another net $3.5m in 2012 and another $3.2m in 2013. Net assets in the balance sheet are $600,000, yes £370,000. Net tangible assets are NEGATIVE $3.7m. They have loans of $7.5m from their shareholders. I asked the question whether they were only solvent because of related party borrowing and got a non-answer about "private companies". I asked about Bearcom, which provides $19m out of $41m turnover. This appears from Note 23 to have been bought in March 2012 for $2.3m, or £1.33m. I asked about the valuation of Bearcom and there was stony and embarrassed silence. I am not sure the Board were being deceitful, I just had no confidence they knew intimately what they were buying. Paul Lever tripped himself up at one point when saying that he had extensive discussions with Wayne Bos about the valuation of the business.....but, er, the document states quite clearly, that as a related party, "Wayne Bos has not taken part in any of the Board's deliberations". Another shareholder asked about potential profits. ILX had in the past, he stated being making operating margins of 10%. From the limited information on the Australian businesses, operating margin had never been higher than 3.5%. So, a business that will contribute c 60% of the enlarged groups turnover of £40m, and has made losses of each of the last two years is valued at £16m. ILX, making an adjusted £1.1m is valued in the market at £3.3m. ILX had net assets of £6.6m.....it gets 20% of the equity. Prodigality had net assets of £370,000 and gets 80% of the equity. Eps, brokers and undisclosed material. It was stated ( as a stone walling technique by the Board) that all relevant information is in the Offer Document. There was therefore a very important disclosue made in answer to a different question. I asked how the market was possibly going to value a hodge-podge of interests, much in Australia. Was there a plan for a dual listing ? : No. Who would follow ? "WHIreland our new brokers have already put out new forecasts". I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE THIS AS A RETAIL INVESTOR, PRECLUDED FROM SEEING INSTITUTIONAL RESEARCH. I have a copy in front of me now. First WHI have no clue what the new business is and there is no description of it and no indication they have visited it. However they must have been fed some numbers as their representative was perfectly willing verbally to reveal their forecasts: adjusted pretax of £1.7m to June 2014 and £2.5m to 2015, giving eps of 0.82p and 0.98p. So, inadvertently, they had disclosed that Prodigality would add little to ILX proforma of £1.1m for this last year AND that eps would be diluted four fold by the massive equity issue. WHERE DID IT SAY IN THE OFFER DOCUMENT THAT THIS ACQUISITION WOULD BE MASSIVELY DILUTIVE AND REDUCE EPS BY 75%. The value of ILX shares without the takeover ? While there were no forecasts on the existing ILX business available, we were certainly being told that progress was being made, that the bulk of the cost savings were done, and that the ship was stable. Would ILX have traded on just 3x earnings ? Without the Prodigality acquisition ( and the 20% drop in the ILX price on the announcement) one would have hope the Board would have considered the shares undervalued at 10p ? The Prodigal Son had made his investment at 10p, and either he is a bad investor, or presumably he wanted to make a return on his investment and thought ILX was worth more than 10p ? I asked the SOLE non-Exec, the sweaty Paul Lever, whether all options had been considered and whether there was greater value to shareholders in other routes, such as a trade sale. I got a straight bat answer that everything had been considered, which I personally did not believe. The value of Prodigality ? Loss making Australian interests ( in transition apparently), no visibility, a broker's note saying eps fall from 3.8p to 0.82p ? And not really any growth the following year ? How would you value that ? 5x ? 8x ? 6p ? 8p ? certainly less than the pre announcement 10p. The EGM. I suppose I must report that shareholder indifference rules. There were three other shareholders present, only myself and one other asked any questions. The acquisition was steam rollered through. My only, vague, vague hope is that I believe the Board when they say the two other main shareholders Octopus and Peter Ward voted for the deal. Octopus had a big holding of ILX at much higher levels ( 2m at 25p in Jan 2010) . They then took part in a first bail out, taking 5.4m shares at 26p. These have both been disastrous investments. Rather than jumping ship, voting against the Prodigality acquisition and trying to get some value out of ILX, they have jumped on the bandwagon. Maybe someone wants to go and visit the Company during the forthcoming Ashes ? The Board. Noone from Prodigality is joining the Board. Board meetings will be held in London. I find that very odd. Have to rely on the Prodigal Son providing all the info on his businesses. We were introduced to a new Board Member, about to be appointed ( new information, not in the Offer Document). It turns out he has known the Prodigal Son for three years, so we do NOT have another independent non-Exec. Share price. A Takeover Panel waiver was granted so that the Prodigal Son did not have to back his investment and actually buy ILX. The Concert Party that will now hold up to 86% of the Company includes a few minority Australian shareholders. I am not sure who will be precluded from buying in the market, but given the waiver I think the main man cannot do anything, in the market, to support the share price. Not sure who else will. A few private shareholders will suddenly realise they own Prodigality and will sell. Who would buy ? Noone know the business now ? Eps are down the pan for a number of years of uncertainty. I believe existing shareholders have been well and truly shafted. We await the return of the Prodigal Son to see if he is welcomed home As always I welcome any feedback from the Board. I apologise for any unintentional errors and will immediately correct them on request. Chambers Dictionary: "Prodigality......st |
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