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[maxk] 28/6/2010 12:01

Bonkham for new manager, he cant be any worse!

[tobythedogk] 28/6/2010 11:57

Hi FOT, What did you think of the match? - With proper officials we could be taking on the Argies next weekend - what more motivation would we need?

[father o toole] 28/6/2010 11:54

oh my goodness toby? well i never !!!

[juju43] 28/6/2010 11:51

look at the previous 5 matches against no hopers - we were worse than them

[sos100] 28/6/2010 11:43

even if the goal was allowed, we are bad.

just no sporting talent in this country(good at boxing though),probably go through the same in 4 years time.That's an average German team made to look like world beaters.

lampard ,Gerrard ,Terry,Ronney etc etc just over hyped ,overrated.Its not that they don't try but we just aint got it.

the manager aint that good either.

[tobythedogk] 28/6/2010 11:35

Although we were eventually well beaten the outcome might have been very different had the goal been allowed - we would have gone in all square at half time and come out with a more positive mindset and the Germans would have been more cautious after the restart. The same thing happened to the Mexicans - first goal was clearly offside. This handed the initiative to Argentina at a stage where Mexico were more than holding their own. Its a disgrace that incompetent officials are allowed on the greatest stage in football. Blatter needs to resign.

[juju43] 28/6/2010 11:14

not enough players coming into clubs as they are choked with foreigners. financial greed has ruined british football . if you dont have money your club is irrelevent .as for our media hyped prima donnas ....

[prambigear] 28/6/2010 11:08

#45 Good job the Germans allowed no opportunity for doubt then, eh? Or is hitting the back of the net not allowed for our teams.

[maxk] 27/6/2010 22:42

Tommo's mate has "form"




England's referee Jorge Larrionda has previous in missing 'goals' and was once suspended for six months by Uruguayan FA
By Matt Fortune
Last updated at 7:23 PM on 27th June 2010


Referee Jorge Larrionda's error in failing to spot that Frank Lampard's first-half shot against Germany had crossed the line has an unnerving sense of familiarity.

The Uruguayan official, once suspended for six months by his country's Football Association for alleged 'irregularities', was at the centre of a World Cup storm in South America six years ago for just the same reason.

In a key qualifying clash between Brazil and Columbia, Larrionda deprived the world champions a winner midway through the second half when a close-range effort from substitute striker Adriano bounced down off the underside of the crossbar and landed half a metre behind the line.

It caused disbelief as much as did anger among the players and fans yet the man in the middle was still selected to officiate at the 2006 World Cup.

In this year's tournament, where he has refereed three games, Larrionda has already attracted criticism for his failure to spot Tim Cahill's clear handball for Australia which ultimately cost Serbia a place in the last 16.


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[juju43] 27/6/2010 22:27

nothing will change regardless of the disgust

[diku] 27/6/2010 21:23

fb1nc...and may I ask what are the allowances?...no salary but they make money out of the overall Worldcup event!...all those players appear on the booze packages and etc etc...you know what I mean!..

[tomkin] 27/6/2010 21:21

Vorsprung durch: precision, accuracy, practice, discipline, team spirit, national pride...

[primitive] 27/6/2010 21:03

You're on the money wdurham, spot on.
Very sad.

[diku] 27/6/2010 19:07

wdurham...totally agree and I could not have put it in words better than you have...excessive money paid to individual players has taken the team spirit out of the England team...players are put up on high peddlestool by the tabloids coverage...I also thought that last Wednesday's England win was more of luck than judgement...and as for the game against USA...No comment!!What exactly does the England Manager's job entail?...Must say the Germans goal scoring was truly an art of team spirit which was a joy to watch...

[spawny100] 27/6/2010 18:14

Great post wdurham and agree entirely with the content, Shocking performance. Defence might as well have stayed in England. Same goes for Rooney; did the overpaid primadonna do anything whatsoever in 4 games? I'm no footballing talent but could have played with more passion, and quite probably more influence. Anyway I bet on germany to win way back and it's looking like a potential winner.....

[tomkin] 27/6/2010 17:43

England should have conceded defeat and not played at all. Easy one for Germany to bag.

[wdurham] 27/6/2010 17:28

"prima donnas" - says it all.

Pay 'em tens of thousands of pounds a week at club level and they all think they're God's gift to football, when in fact they don't perform much better than Eddie the Eagle, especially in a team situation where they might have to submerge their massive egos for the good of the team.

Not a vestige of team play in the whole damned match. Selfish behaviour throughout. How many times did players like Gerrard and Lampard try to score from stupid positions when giving the ball to a team member might have done the trick? (Assuming a team member was onside and ready to take the ball, which wasn't often....) England were outplayed and UTTERLY outclassed by a new, young German side. The unallowed goal was a shame - but it made no difference. It would have merely lifted England's performance from utterly abysmal to pretty damned poor.

The Premier League Clubs might like to rethink what they pay this motley collection of half-baked "professionals", who have struggled to reach the last 16 in the first place, and go out with their first real challenge.

Alan Shearer - ex-captain of England - was savage in his commentary.

And yes, a manager that could speak English might help. His post match assessment was gibberish - he actually said England played well. Not even the most ardent England fan could possibly agree with him. They played abysmally badly, as you'd expect from 11 individuals on a football field.

I'd be very interested indeed to hear David Beckham's assessment - he who would probably have been captain if fit, in spite of being long in the tooth - but of course, we never will. An unselfish goalmaker who ran the team on pitch from the middle, made the plays and fed the ball to the forwards, and was always where he should have been, and if he WAS where he shouldn't have been, a goal usually resulted. Shearer was of the same type.

There isn't a single England player now who is working for anything other than his own glory. And that goes for the Manager too.

And THAT'S why England lost today.

I would not normally post about football, nor would I normally watch a match, having had a surfeit of the "beautiful game" after years of living with a football-crazed husband. But today was important. Sadly it was a travesty of what football ought to be. It shouldn't even really have been called a football match.