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Posted at 20/9/2003 23:11 by a harris Ok. ive been thinking about the press releases of last week. Edgar Bronfman is on record as describing Bella Films (US) as a division of the new Bella Media PLC (Mobilefuture). The same mbf could be an unlucky vehicle for development costs or it could be the new company at the heart of bella films expansion into IMax cinamas.. My view is that the bella media could be the real thing. Why would E Bronfman quote bella media as the owning company if they later intend to bury the company with development costs. so this is the quote. Now we need info to come to confirm that MBF is the holding company. I will be looking. IMAX Corporation (Nasdaq: IMAX; TSX: IMX) and Bella Films, the US division of Bella Media PLC, |
Posted at 17/9/2003 14:01 by spurrier Yes, we're the mushrooms alright. Can't see that PCM would have sold their shares in MBF as this would have made some disastrous impression on the price, would it not?Don't y'all hanker after the good old days of the gold rush of '99? Turn on the screen and the blue arrows clicked up minute by minute and the "profit" grew and grew..... Perhaps we should all be looking for stocks bearing dividends and get sensible? Nah. |
Posted at 17/9/2003 13:09 by cableguy00 Actually, it's possible that PCM are selling back the 24.95% stake that they bought - total of approx 297M shares @ mostly 0.18p.In part, what this would acheive for them would make a certain amount of sense as they had said that it was an 'investment' as opposed to the original plan of a reverse takeover. Ed Bronfman Snr had loaned them £1.3M @ 10% interest earlier this year and the profit PCM would make from selling back that 24.95% stake would yield them, guess what?, - yes - approx £130K, which, funny enough, is 10% of £1.3M. Pretty clever eh?? - that's if I'm on the right track... There's got to be more reasoning to it also though. For example, PCM would no longer have a stake in MBF thus allowing the name-change to carry on smoothly to 'Bella Media' which we haven't been given a date for yet and ED Snr could purchase approx 43M shares in MBF with his interest payment. On the other hand, PCM may have increased their stake to almost 50% in MBF getting the shares cheaply as they had in the past and the reverse takeover could soon be facilitated BUT what would the point of that be, so close to the name change. Whatever's going on, you can be guaranteed one thing - it's being very carefully orchestrated still and ONLY the board members know what's going on. All Imo naturally. Anyone able to offer more theories? |
Posted at 07/9/2003 21:43 by guydaynes a harrisCheck the RNS releases over the last few months. MBF was a cash shell - the "old" MBF called it a day last year. It's now in the very early stages of development as a new company. The only thing it has in common with the old business is the name, and that changes after the AGM this coming Wednesday when it will become Bella Media. |
Posted at 26/7/2003 14:38 by sammyc Hi Ssea, I'm in on AGT too. Got in last week at 7.12 . I am very warey of MBF, but like a fool, I still hold, on hopes of good news this coming week at the EGM. Honestly the IMAX cinema's sounds like an idea plucked out of thin air, and about as clever as their original wireless networking scheme which never took off.What keeps me attracted is the BRONFFMAN factor (have i spelt that right) Not the CRAZY antics going on in this news group, nor, the EGM coming up, nor the fact that all MBF is , is a cash shell... but that the 36th richest man in the world is involved, which gives me a little security that it will not go down the pan quite so soon. Who knows.. IMAX in the states and Japan might be a hit for MBF... wait and see! sorry to all readers about the slating there.... I'll remove my post if it upsets! regards sammyc |
Posted at 24/7/2003 14:33 by imorton CableI sold out here 2 weeks ago and went into YOO. MBF is only for very long term (to build cinemas takes years) but YOO is bring ing in cash now Still further gains to be had in YOO but MBF will not move for months everyone Sell MBF and buy YOO |
Posted at 16/7/2003 13:43 by sammyc lucky,mbf used to be in wireless telecomunications industry... i assume supplying wireles broadband speed links to local areas institutions etc to allow other wireless networks to connect. this of course.... did not work out as planned, far too many losses investing +spending the shareholders money on *whatever* and mbf went from 80pence to zilch. The directors last year planned to use mbf as a cash shell and re-invest into another business to help some of the losing shareholders. We can see from yesterdays news that the new investement comes in the form of imax cinemas but b4 yesterday's moment in time, all mbf was... was a cash shell which could have been taking off the market alltogether. leaving us all pocketless. We now await the EGM at the end of the month to talk about the funding of the new IMAX theatre ranges.... or is this just another way of screwing the shareholders out of more money? regards sammyc |
Posted at 16/7/2003 08:13 by cableguy00 Irwin, Sammyc, > cheers fellas, but please do seriously consider that all this is only my own opinion and have no wish to influence whether you hold,buy, or sell - my concience couldn't handle anyone being out of pocket if things went pear-shaped. I do feel however that with an armoury of properly thought out opinions from a variety of posters, then it helps to make up your mind as to how to proceed with your strategy. I've not been posting all that long myself and have made my mistakes (wmg probably the main one) and have learned to look at the negatives of a prospect first (cuts down research time) and then move on to the positives. MBF, in my mind have both - negatives because we could face heavy dilution in the near future due to fundraising (therefore not really a short-term prospect for big profit) and positives because of the business model which is being mapped out.A big factor for me personally is the intrigue of so many factors interlacing pcm, mbf and Bronfman Snr plus the current bid process involving Vivendi. With Bronfman Jnr having assembled a group of investors to join the bidding for Vivendi's entertainment unit, it's useful to bear in mind that one of his group is a company called (I think) 'Blackstone' - those guys own a big stake already(somewhere around 50%, but dyor) in their theme parks. Therefore, even BigEd's son's consortium fails in their bid, the association is already there which could be quite useful for MBF. Enough waffling from me for now - here's to the future...long term!! Oh and by the way, I'm not adverse to cutting losses either. Regards all |
Posted at 16/7/2003 00:55 by cableguy00 Guy >>> Cheers for that insight to the news, very well put indeed and a hearty welcome on your first post - hopefully it won't be your last!!!My feeling here all along has been that MBF is going to be a winner BUT only as a long-term punt as I'm sure you'll agree. It's also very intriguing with having 'Big Ed' on the board considering the bidding going on over at Vivendi with 'Little Ed' and his consortium. The shareprice presently is all that posters on this BB appear to be bothered about and that's fair enough, totally understandable, so that's why I've been saying that I wouldn't put my house on it - yet. What I figure is scaring holders at the moment is that the cash that mbf have in the bank at the moment is going across the big pond and there won't be any value left here. However, if your thoughts on the US co's being owned soon by mbf come into play for real, would not messrs Weinert and Crisman then own close to 50% of mbf's share capital and additional funding raised will then dilute the shareprice further. It's this kind of issue that short-term holders will use as an excuse to jump ship which is also fair enough as there could potentially be no return on their investment for minimum 2 yrs until the cinemas are built and begin to show positive trading in their various locations. Imho the long term prospects are excellent here and there will certainly be more news to be announced - oh to be a fly on the wall at mbf... Again, cheers for the post Regards cg00 |
Posted at 15/7/2003 11:26 by guydaynes cableguy00My first posting here on ADVFN. I normally post over on iii , but I think you're aware I have followed PCM for quite some time, and now MBF. I'd suggest you're confusing yourself a little. Understandably so, it is rather complex. Remember, the reason for MBF was a quick stock market listing for this new venture, and the opportunity to raise funding. Otherwise, it would have needed 3 years accounts. Weinert and Crisman are involved everywhere you look. Between them and an other they will have 34% of Newco LLC, and it is Newco LLC and Bella Films who are building and operating this new IMAX cinema in Springfield. And amongst the directors of Bella Films are... Weinert and Crisman. 15% of Newco LLC will be owned by investors following a fundraising of $600k 51% of Newco LLC will be owned by Newco Inc. Newco Inc. is wholly owned by MBF, where of course the CEO is Weinert and the MD is Crisman. I'll bet the lawyers, advisers and accountants are having a field day here! This is my guess or view, but I would liken this situation to the business with ACOM back in 2000. Weinert and Crisman could well sell their interests in Newco LLC to MBF in return for MBF shares ( as Clive and Chen did with ACOM ). MBF then raises the funding for the next ones. And given the involvement of PCM, it might not be unreasonable to suggest that Asia and perhaps China might be among the favourites for the next one(s). I'd suggest Bronfman's presence makes the fundraising issue somewhat more interesting ( and easier ). Very early days. But some intersting times ahead. Don't think for one minute you have invested in a company which is going to build and operate just one cinema. But they have to start somwhere. Guy |
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