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LONG Longships

8.25
0.00 (0.00%)
17 Mar 2025 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Longships LSE:LONG London Ordinary Share GB00B2PKZ581 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 8.25 0.00 00:00:00
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
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Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 8.25 GBX

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Posted at 06/3/2025 09:28 by igoe104
Disaster of a month so far, and it's only just started. Gone from 2.5% up to 0.5% down, on the year. Mainly down to two inline statements Kitw and SPI dropping and Rnwh continuing to fall because of rail delays.

What I noticed in this current market, that folks react to what others are doing. They can initially like results, but will then change their minds when the share price falls. And sell out...

You can see one or two losing their heads on the SPI forum, when they were fine between 7am -8 about results.
Posted at 19/2/2025 16:59 by pinemartin9
I posted this on the ITV thread, but given the nature of the investors on here it may be of interest:


I've been playing around with ChatGPT. In case it's any good for others on here here's a neat template for asking it to work out CAGR with time weighted dividends:

Compute the CAGR with time-weighted dividends for:
Stock Name & Ticker: ITV (ITV.L)

Purchase Details:
01/09/22: 100 shares @ 62.77p
13/09/23: 100 shares @ 72.22p
16/01/24: 100 shares @ 59.75p
Current Share Price: 75p

Dividend Payments:
28/11/22: 1.7p per share for 100 shares
25/05/23: 3.3p per share for 100 shares
28/11/23: 1.7p per share for 200 shares
23/05/24: 3.3p per share for 300 shares
26/11/24: 1.7p per share for 300 shares
Final Date for CAGR Calculation: 26/11/24


* Position sizes changed for calculation and public sharing. Just substitute the ticker, dates, dividends etc and hey presto. There may be other software or platforms that calculate this automatically for you, but mine don't! Mine comes out at at Time-Weighted CAGR with Dividends of 16.4%. I'm off to apply this to a few other stocks I own. Do people on here tend to look at CAGR or total returns out of interest?


When it comes to evaluating stock investments, the choice between CAGR (Compound Annual Growth Rate) with time-weighted dividends and absolute % returns depends on the specific perspective you're interested in and the nature of your investment strategy. Here's a breakdown to help decide which approach is best for you:

1. CAGR with Time-Weighted Dividends:
Best for evaluating long-term growth:
CAGR is ideal for measuring the annualized growth rate of your investment over time, especially when you want to account for the effect of reinvested dividends and other factors that influence returns over multiple periods.
Accounts for compounding:
This method reflects how your investment grows over time, considering both capital appreciation (share price increases) and dividends (assuming they're reinvested).
Ideal for long-term investors:
If you're holding shares for a long period (years or decades) and reinvesting dividends, CAGR helps you measure the real growth rate of your portfolio.
Time-weighted:
Time-weighting ensures that the growth rate reflects how much time capital is actually invested, which is important when you make additional investments at different times. This makes it more suitable for analyzing ongoing investments.
Use CAGR when:

You want to understand the consistent annual growth of your investment.
You’ve made multiple purchases at different times.
You are factoring in reinvested dividends.
You want a compounded annual return that reflects your growth rate over time.
2. Absolute % Returns:
Best for shorter-term or simple evaluation:
Absolute returns are straightforward and give you a simple snapshot of how much your investment has gained or lost in total, from the point of purchase to the current date. This method is useful for shorter-term investors who are focused on actual returns rather than compounding effects.
Doesn't account for compounding:
Unlike CAGR, absolute returns don't take into account the time over which the investment has occurred. If you’re interested in the total profit from an investment (without annualizing), this is the more direct method.
Ideal for quick evaluations:
If you’re trying to assess the performance of your portfolio in a more direct way (for example, over the last few months or a single year), absolute returns are easier to grasp and can be more informative for that shorter time horizon.
Use Absolute % Returns when:

You’re focused on the total profit over a given period.
You are not reinvesting dividends or want a simple return figure.
You're interested in seeing how much you gained or lost without considering the impact of time.
Key Considerations:
CAGR with Time-Weighted Dividends will give you a more accurate and meaningful picture of long-term performance, especially if dividends are reinvested, as it accounts for compounding.
Absolute % Returns are better for a simple, one-time assessment of how much you've gained or lost since buying shares, without considering reinvestment or the time value of money.
Which Should You Use?
Long-Term Perspective: If you plan on holding stocks for the long term and reinvesting dividends, CAGR with time-weighted dividends is definitely the better measure because it reflects the real growth rate of your investment.
Short-Term or Quick Evaluation: If you're assessing the current performance of your stock in the short-term or want a straightforward measure of how much you've gained or lost, absolute returns might be the better option.
In general, for serious, long-term investment analysis, CAGR (with dividends reinvested) is considered the best way to evaluate your return because it provides a more complete and accurate picture of your stock's true growth over time.
Posted at 19/2/2025 07:24 by igoe104
HSBC results look good, but I bet the share price goes down still.
Posted at 12/2/2025 19:31 by igoe104
Some large trades in the afternoon, has pushed the CNC share price up nicely...
Posted at 11/2/2025 08:40 by igoe104
LTHM is probably No 1 on my watchlist now. P/e 10 plus 30% of its market cap is in cash. Plus one of its main competitor has gone bust, plus in a industry with headwinds, lots of houses should be built over the next decade, and they all need alot of wood to build roofs.

Share price down over 20% over the last 6 months, but the twitter gang aren't interested because it hasn't risen a lot. Twitter gang only buy shares that are close to yearly highs not yearly lows ..
Posted at 08/2/2025 13:19 by essentialinvestor
Does anyone see longer term upside in either GSK or ABF?.

I'm tempted to buy a few of both as longer term holds.


DGE, the growth story looks in tatters.
Very difficult to call a low there.

WTB may be interesting, but fear a nasty trading update to come - this may arguably be priced in - not sure.
I reckon this ultimately gets bid for.
Posted at 31/1/2025 07:37 by igoe104
Bbox numbers look good, and good to see they are disposing assets at a premium above the NAV. It just shows how much these reits share prices are well off the mark.

Definitely a weird share sale, not the way to make a good impression with a new boss. He must be desperate for cash..
Posted at 27/1/2025 07:36 by igoe104
Great to see VLX introduce a Q3 trading update. I wish more companies did quarterly updates, probably response to acouple of companies shorting, thinking the share price will drift in-between news. Love to see these companies that short come unstuck with a unexpected update...

Love companies thinking out of the box, catching these companies shorting company shares out .
Posted at 25/1/2025 10:36 by netcurtains
I used to be a long term investor in TRIAD PLC.. I am now an investor but not sure how long it will last. Will need to hear next update from the company... They are still growing - every month they advertise new vacancies... It all mounts up....

I am now into SBTX - Skinbio Technology..... I can see a long term vision where the UK gets its own specialist big cosmetics biotechnology company..

Also PEARSON (FTSE100) - I feel online education and AI in education will only (generally speaking) grow and grow and grow and a rising tide raises all boats...
Posted at 12/1/2025 13:27 by igoe104
I'm shocked with the amount of folks still using stop losses. All that seems to happen is the MMs seems to have a habit of finding them, then the share price bounces back up...

It may stop the odd big loss, but it also will stop alot of multi baggers...Its very rare when you buy a share of goes straight up, it more likely to drop 15% then rise ..

Its easy for people like no pants, who has loads of followers, so when he announces a buy, his shares will get a instance boost.
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