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Stock Name Stock Symbol Market Stock Type
Zanaga Iron Ore Company Limited ZIOC London Ordinary Share
  Price Change Price Change % Stock Price Last Trade
-0.21 -3.78% 5.35 16:35:13
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30/6/2021
17:20
sooty snipes: Hi. Extrader. I don't know about you but to me this is very disappointing. Reading back over the end of September 2020 update. It seemed things were actually heating up. This isn't an update at all. There is nothing new in fact things look to me like they've gone backwards. COIDIC now seem to be off the scene completely. Trahar made a real big deal about COIDEC when they first got involved. I take this has a very big backwards step. Secondly we had several strategic investors showing interest. Where have they gone? Thirdly we had Yantai Port on board and now no mention of them. I'm glad I've reduced my holding down to 180,000 will offload another 30,000 me thinks. I'll sit on the 150,000 this to me is no longer an investable company. It's become a heads or tails holding now.
25/5/2021
15:10
extrader: The son also rises... Today's hxxps://www.lesdepechesdebrazzaville.fr/ carries p4 an interview with Nguesso fils on his taking charge of the new ministry for International Co-operation and public-private partnerships (COIDIC's idea , as was). Salient points : - Parliament needs to pass a law authorising PPP's , since one doesn't exist atm; - he feels that the business climate in Congo needs to be improved, to make investment safer (Ed.: a good start might be to have a word with your Dad...and a look in the mirror); and - there will be a 'national preference' policy for smaller investments and foreign investors limited to larger ones . So, the lad's starting with a blank canvas : no PPP structure in place....and (on the face of it) 'international co-operation' on Congo's terms. Blank canvas......or blank cheque...? ATB
10/5/2021
12:29
sooty snipes: Gismo, ours is in the ground where it's likely to stay for a good while yet. If they can't sell this project now they never will. Considering Trahar is in charge of investor relations he's doing a pretty poor job. People taking his silence as a positive are being led up the garden path
09/5/2021
13:21
sooty snipes: Extrader I don't suppose our investor relations chappie has got back to you?
05/5/2021
08:15
the count of monte_cristo: probably for due diligence required by a Chinese investor, 2014 is a long time ago, prudent to go through the process if you are going to spend billions of dollars on a brand new iron ore project for the long term.
06/4/2021
09:12
extrader: My guess is because these people wanted more than a 'ballpark' figure : .." Approaches received from a number of strategic investors interested in investing in the Zanaga Project "
26/3/2021
17:02
extrader: Today's Depeches de Brazzaville has a full page article 'Towards a new Sino-African paradigm' that runs through a potted history of China in Africa, its support for economic development , its more recent support for Covid PPE etc, ie lots of 'hearts and minds' stuff. hxxps://www.lesdepechesdebrazzaville.fr/ download (telecharger) today's date It then talks about COIDIC and its role in a more integrated approach to investment by China, making 3 x interesting references : .."most African governments including that of Congo Brazzaville, are gradually opening up to investment, energy sectors, urban transport and services, allowing investors to enter projects through multiple funding models such as than BOT, BOOT and PPP. The objective of COIDIC is to move from the simple export of labor to the export of labor, capital, technology, standards as well as management. (1) As such, we can highlight in this new situation, the entry of the China State Construction Engineering (CSCE) in the capital of the Congolaise des Routes, after having been the builder. This concession of 27 years, will allow this company in association with EGIS International and the Congolese State, to maintain and manage a corridor of more than 1200 km, which goes from the Port of Pointe Noire to the world-class iron ore zone, from the Nabemba Mountains, Avima and Bandondo in the Department of Sangha in northern Congo. (2) Still talking of this mineral, this time in the southern part of the Congo, we can point out the agreement between Zanaga Iron Ore Company Ltd (ZIOC) and COIDIC, relating to the acquisition of a stake in the latter in the capital of ZIOC. Anticipating the involvement of COIDIC in the realization of the ZES of Pointe Noire, both parties hope that the infrastructure planned in this area will be in line with their objectives of participation in the management of infrastructure for one and profitability for the other. (3) This model will also be found as part of an almost 60-year-old project, namely the hydroelectric dam of Sounda in the Kouilou. Estimated at over 2 billion USD and for which the Congo had chosen the IFC, subsidiary of the World Bank, as facilitator, it is ultimately China Railway Group Corporation which will be the developer in the part of a concession contract. In conclusion, we can say that the prospects for a new course in Sino-African relations are emerging with a more pragmatic vision backed by a more realistic legal, commercial and social environment. Africa integrated within the AfCFTA intends in the long term, to promote its industry and to consume what it produces. .." It's probably all a poorly-understood re-hash of 'old news', but (1) is a land route for export of the 3 recently sequestered mines (2) suggests COIDIC taking an equity stake in ZIOC (NB : not Zanaga or Jumelles) and (3) is 'refreshing' an old project for the Sounda dam, which was IFC/World Bank , suggesting it's to be revived by China Railway Group. [This may be a typo : I think one of COIDIC's consortium shareholders is a specialist in dams ?] Watch this space ? ATB
01/3/2021
23:13
gta5: Etrader, as you can see I'm way too young to join those cinematographical dots.. (Or too old to remember them?) I wish I knew which it was... Anyhoo... Sooty, I do feel your pain too, and I echo Ex-traders words; Whatever is going on behind the scenes (IF anything is at all) then AT is def not the person doing any of the... doing. As far as I'm concerned I prefer the total silence as opposed to all this rubbish and distractions about pellets and EPP's. I should have seen through it a lot sooner to be fair, but there you go. As for the likelihood of something being afoot your guess is as good as mine, but at these Iron ore prices, with this outlook for the foreseeable future and the current Chinese spat with Australia you could not ask for more. All the stars are aligned in our favour, a lot more now than they were 10 years ago for sure, -where the valuation of Zanaga was a lot higher than it is now. My bet is that Glencore will have an interest in monetising this dormant project, and perhaps even with the new CEO have a nibble of the actual ownership of the mines, not just the trading rights perhaps. Remember that Glasenberg has been very criticised for completely missing the boat on Iron Ore and despite Glencore's brilliance at commodities trading their mining (and lack of Grenfield exposure) has been a bit of a disaster. Add to that the lofty ambitions to become carbon neutral and shifting away from Coal. Where to now I wonder? Enter Mr Nagle. He'll need some quick wins and something to make a mark with... Either way, I think that GLEN/CHINA/Nguesso should all be very interested in bringing this to life sooner rather than later. Nguesso&Co desperately needs to show the world (and his impoverished country)that there is money to be made in RoC and attract forgiveness from the IMF and interest from international investors again. Glencore desperately need to jump on the Iron Ore bandwagon and pull their finger out. China desperately need to get diversification and geopolitics under their control if they want to be the superpower they're gearing up for. I desperately need to monetise my last 7 years of patient ZIOC gamble (or was it 8 or 9?... darn, I've lost count..) GL, GTA.
15/12/2020
11:03
gta5: Another good article from our friends at Caixing: Aug 25, 2020 06:23 Stalled Guinea Project Highlights China’s Struggle to Reforge Iron Ore Supply Chain By Luo Guoping and Han Wei Simandou, a 110-kilometer range of hills deep in the hinterland of Guinea in Western Africa, boasts the world’s largest untapped iron ore reserves. They could reshape the global supply chain of the critical ingredient of steel, the world’s second-most traded commodity behind crude oil. The rich assets have lured global investors, especially from ore-thirsty China, but pulling the mineral out of the ground has turned out to be a thorny challenge with entangled interests and risks stemming from technical, capital and political uncertainties. It is considered the world’s largest, highest-quality iron ore deposit. Some industry experts project it could produce as much as 150 million tons of iron ore a year, equivalent to 7% of global production in 2019. Developing the deposits could save China, the world’s largest steelmaking country, billions of dollars a year. But building the necessary infrastructure in Guinea, which ranks 160th by per capita GDP of 186 countries according to the International Monetary Fund, would also cost billions of dollars. To make the Simandou project operational would require railway and port construction amounting to the largest infrastructure project ever in Africa. Investors have been reluctant to sink that kind of money into Simandou because of the risk that prices will plunge. The Simandou project has largely stalled over the past two decades, reflecting political complexity, mining rights disputes, concerns over costs and pressures from industry rivals. Discovered in the 1990s, the Simandou deposits hold more than 8.6 billion tons of iron ore with an average content of 65% iron, according to Guinea’s National Institute of Statistics. “The reserve of Simandou is so rich that one can get minerals with a simple shovel,” a mining industry investor said. The Simandou project could maintain a stable 7% share of global iron ore supply in the coming decade if it reached full capacity, giving it the power to influence global pricing, said Andrew Gadd, chief iron ore analyst at British commodity consultancy CRU. It could threaten some high-cost suppliers such as those in Canada, Brazil and South Africa, Gadd said. In Australia, Simandou is known “the Pilbara killer.” Australia, the world’s largest iron ore exporter, produces more than 90% of its ore exports in the western region of Pilbara. Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto Group is a major stakeholder in the Simandou project since 1997 but has moved slowly to develop the project. Chinese investors are among the main forces pushing the project forward as a new source of iron ore that could bring down prices for China’s steel mills. In 2019, China imported more than 1 billion tons of iron ore, 70% of the global supply and 80% of the country’s total demand. About 80% of China’s iron ore imports come from the four largest mining companies — Brazil’s Vale S.A. and Australia-based Rio Tinto, BHP Group Ltd. and Fortescue Metals Group. In the first seven months this year, China imported 660 million tons of iron ore, up 11.8% from a year ago, official data showed. Demand has rebounded as the domestic outbreak of Covid-19 wanes and the government’s pro-growth, infrastructure push drives up steel consumption. Heavy reliance on foreign supply makes Chinese steelmakers especially vulnerable to iron ore prices. Every $10 increase of the price of a ton of iron ore will lead to an extra $10 billion of spending by China every year, analysts estimate. In 2019, a $30 price rise for a ton of iron ore cost Chinese steel mills an additional $30 billion, more than the 189 billion yuan ($27.4 billion) of net profit posted by the country’s entire steel industry, said Chen Derong, chairman of China Baowu Steel Group Corp. Ltd., China’s largest steel refiner. Despite the pandemic, iron ore prices have continued rising this year, touching a six-year high on Aug. 19 of $128.80 a ton and hovering at $120 since then. “If Simandou starts operation, it could bring a drop of global iron ore prices by $40 to $50 a ton,” a steel industry analyst in China said. Since May, Baowu has been trying to lead a consortium of steelmakers to invest in Simandou and break the development logjam. Baowu plans to set up a $6 billion investment fund consisting of steelmakers and financial investors to develop Simandou, Caixin learned. But the Baowu project is no sure thing. Chinese investors including state-owned aluminum giant Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd. (Chinalco) tapped into the project years ago with little progress to show for it. Chinese companies have a poor track record of investing in foreign mining. The painful example is the Sino iron project in Australia. After Chinese state-owned conglomerate Citic Ltd. paid $450 million for 25 years of mining rights to the iron ore deposit at Cape Preston in 2006, it quickly turned into a money pit because of repeated production delays and skyrocketing investments. Simandou “needs a sophisticated dealmaker to coordinate various parties, to share interests and risks,” a senior energy industry investor said. Without the capability to get all parties to act together and figure out a sustainable business model, the development of Simandou will remain out of reach, the investor said. Long-stalled project Mining rights to Simandou have been split into four blocks, none of which has yet been developed. The first two blocks in the north are owned by SMB-Winning, a consortium backed by Singaporean and Chinese companies, while the No. 3 and 4 blocks in the south are controlled by Rio Tinto and a group of Chinalco-led Chinese investors. The Guinean government holds 15% in each of the two parts. Chinalco and Chinese partners entered Simandou in 2010 by acquiring a 39.5% stake in Simfer, a Rio Tinto unit operating blocks 3 and 4. Chinalco is the largest single shareholder of Rio Tinto with a 10.3% stake. But development of the blocks stalled in following years, leaving huge costs for investors. A company document seen by Caixin showed that Simfer invested more than $3.7 billion in infrastructure and mining facilities in Simandou. In 2015 and 2016, Rio Tinto wrote off nearly $2.3 billion of losses from the project. Simfer staff working on the Simandou project has been slashed to dozens from around 1,000 before 2016. Chinalco and partners paid $1.35 billion for the stake in Simfer. A company financial report showed that Chinalco spent $15.5 billion as of the end of 2019 on Simfer and affiliated companies. Industry analysts said they think Rio Tinto’s slow progress on the Simandou project reflects a strategic decision to focus on cheaper development in Australia, and the company doesn’t want new supply to press down market prices. In reply to a Caixin inquiry, Rio Tinto said Simandou will provide a good supplement to ore supplies from Australia and Canada to meet strong demand for high-quality iron ore from China and other markets. Rio Tinto was the first foreign investor licensed to explore Simandou in 1997. In 2006 the company won 25 years of mining rights for all four blocks with an option to extend. But no sustained work has been done on the sites. In 2008 the Guinean government forced Rio Tinto to relinquish its rights to the northern two blocks to an Israeli company, BSG Resources. But BSG’s purchase of the mining rights was controversial and was voided in 2019 by Guinea’s new government, citing corruption. In November that year, the government relaunched bidding for the two blocks, and SMB-Winning became the winner. SMB-Winning is a venture jointly set up by Singapore-based shipping company Winning International Group, Chinese private aluminum producer Shandong Weiqiao, Yantai Port Group and Guinean-French logistics company UMS. SMB-Winning didn’t disclose how much it paid for the mining rights but pledged to invest $14 billion to develop the two northern blocks. Sources close to the matter said the Guinea government hoped to pressure Rio Tinto into making progress in Simandou by inviting in the new investors. In June, SMB-Winning signed a framework accord with Guinean authorities and agreed on a timetable leading to commercial operations within 74 months after signing. But several industry insiders said they are doubtful of SMB-Winning’s ability to raise enough funds to support the development. Shandong Weiqiao, with the strongest balance sheet among the shareholders, has a debt-to-asset ratio of more than 60%, restricting its capacity to tap new credit, they said. SMB-Winning contacted some Chinese banks for potential loans, but most lenders showed little interest, sources said. Game changer The Simandou project is strategically valuable to China as it would diversify the country’s iron ore supply and give it greater bargaining power in price setting, said Lu Guangming, an analyst at CRU. The four iron ore giants — Vale, Rio Tinto, BHP and Fortescue Metals — accounted for nearly half of 2019 global iron ore production of 2.1 billion tons. They have the major say in settling global prices. Heavily reliant on imports, China has accepted almost every price increase by the four major suppliers since 2003 no matter how the pricing mechanism was changed, analysts said. The country has more than 300 steel mills, but their combined interests in foreign iron ore reserves amounts to only 65 million tons a year, or less than 10% of annual ore imports, according to the Metallurgical Industry Planning and Research Institute. The Simandou project could become a game changer for Chinese steel mills. Caixin learned that Baowu’s proposed $6 billion investment would put $4.5 billion into the southern blocks and $1.5 billion into the northern blocks. Under the Baowu plan, 15% of the fund would come from Baowu, 35% from other steelmakers, 25% from the sovereign wealth fund, 10% from other institutional investors and 15% from infrastructure investors. Baowu has held talks with major domestic steel companies since June, including Shougang Group Co. Ltd., China Minmetals Corp. and Jianlong Group. It also met with Simandou’s current investors Chinalco and SMB-Winning, Caixin learned. Baowu Chairman Chen is very enthusiastic about the Simandou investment and wants to push it forward, said a person close to the company. But the plan is still at an early stage, and many Chinese steelmakers are hesitant to take part because of different concerns over iron ore supply, a steel industry professional told Caixin. Meanwhile, financial investors shy away from the long investment period and related uncertainties, a fund manager said. Even if Baowu’s plan wins supports from other investors, it will remain a major challenge to negotiate a way to work with the current project shareholders, analysts said. A person close to the matter said Baowu hopes to persuade Rio Tinto to sell part or all of its Simandou stake. No easy money Getting the minerals out of Guinea’s mountainous hinterland and transporting the ore to China will be a challenge requiring massive investment in infrastructure and logistics, the investor said. The Guinean government is seeking to leverage the Simandou project to expand domestic infrastructure, demanding construction of a 650-kilometer Trans-Guinea Railway and a deep-water port as well as supportive facilities. This would mean a huge additional investment for Simandou developers. A study by Rio Tinto before 2016 showed that overall investment in block 3 and 4 could amount $18 billion. A preliminary study by Baowu projected $15 of billion investment for the two blocks, while SMB-Winning estimated $14 billion of spending for the other two blocks. Such massive construction also means a longer investment period. Analysts said it could take as long as eight years for Simandou to complete construction and start delivery. A greater challenge would come from market response after Simandou commences production. “Once Simandou starts production, international iron ore prices will be slashed, hurting investors’ interests,” a financial institution source said. Average production cost at Simandou might range between $35 and $40 a ton, compared with $15 to $20 a ton in Australia, making it more vulnerable to price wars, analysts said. “It is almost certain that the four mining giants will cut prices after Simandou starts operation to kill it,” a fund manager said. The financial institution source said considering the complexity of the Simandou project, it will need to be pushed forward by state-level coordination and planning. However, another source said authorities haven’t shown any interest in offering state backing to the Simandou project amid concerns over domestic steel industry overcapacity. (Source: hxxps://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-08-25/cover-story-chinas-opportunities-and-risks-in-africas-giant-iron-ore-field-101596543.html )
17/10/2020
11:55
extrader: Hi all, Interesting article interviewing Glasenberg (GLEN) with some insight into his clear-eyed cynicism/realism (unattractive as a human trait, maybe, but good from the investor PoV) and some read-across to Zanaga : hxxps://www.afr.com/companies/mining/coal-demergers-are-a-carbon-cop-out-glencore-ceo-says-20201017-p565y2 I think this gives a much better portrayal of Galsenberg as a cold-eyed, cynical realist : - "We see some of our competitors, South32, selling their coal mines. ... How does that help the world to reach the Paris Accord?" he said. "Those mines then are not depleting or running down, they’re going into the hands of investors, whether the Chinese … or other players who have no intention of reducing scope 3 emissions; if anything, it gives them a free hand to start producing more." - "although environmental disasters and cultural transgressions hurt the industry's image, investors' primary focus is still on whether the companies generated returns..." - His aversion to greenfield : "The reason is because we generally get it wrong. We don’t sit back and generate the cash, let the cash generate; we start getting aggressive and we decide it’s time to build a new mine," he said. A $2 billion mine would often end up costing $10 billion, and arrive three to five years late, Mr Glasenberg said, but many miners were doing it anyway, to prop up production..." - His investor focus :""We are mining depleting assets, that’s a fact of life," Mr Glasenberg said. "As you deplete it, you don’t have to replace it. Because if a new project doesn’t give you the right return, why bother? Why not give that money back to the shareholders? Don’t build a new mine just to keep that line flat..." He's talking coal, of course, and the replacement issue doesn't arise, because GLEN isn't into iron ore production in a big way. BUT, he's laser-focussed on maximising shareholder return (as he should, for personal as well as professional reasons: he owns 9% or so). My view : This reconfirms Ivan's greenfield aversion and restates his prioritisation of shareholder return. GLEN has zero interest in developing Zanaga and Ivan has informally put up a discreet 'for sale' sign. ATB
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