WIN Plc Share Discussion Threads

[elsworth] 02/6/2006 16:38

Another bag of nuts!!..........sell down to 30p

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 11:51

seems like a cross trade, someone wants out, someone wants in or more.
This is now one private investors should steer well clear of, management & house broker not to be trusted, management seem to not want to buy shares in the open market, lack of news given on a regular basis etc etc etc......

[fromtheblue] 02/6/2006 11:49

Funds will exit at a negotiated price - then MMs usually drop the price again. If funds want out it will create a major overhang - remember the slide from £4.00 to £2.65.

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 11:41

interesting, is that a buy or sell, either way I reckon its the fundies, wonder how they are reacting.

[cordone] 02/6/2006 11:35

I very fortunately(for a change!) sold all my holding in this recently at 305p. I agree, the management have a lot to answer for & I'm certainly not planning to buy back in even it falls further.

[aleman] 02/6/2006 10:57

I'm out now. I reread the finals and have decided the management is not to be trusted.

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 10:23

the only positive thing I can think of here, is that with th etie up of major phone operators, Coke, the Sun & The World Cup - this could be a saving thing for them.
I still aint touching them though. The way they & their broker has acted has left me in no doubt that this is a stock no investor should be in.

If they were going to go great guns in H2 - then you would expect to see significant Director Buys at this level - but I bet you dont.

[grebo] 02/6/2006 10:20

Indeed, but you missed my get out clause! "only CONSIDER getting back in" - ie I need proof that these positive noises are correct before I'll even CONSIDER buying - but I'd need to also be convinced that the future is rosy.

Strange that there's not a single mention of these on HSBB today - these were the talk of the town once - yet again everyone on there promotes buying a stock but they all FORGET to tell us when they get out! lol

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 10:02

yes but that means nothing. At full results they were stating that all of 06 was going to be great & they knew they were lying !

[grebo] 02/6/2006 09:46

Been in and out of this a few times over the past 2 years - always worked best when I took a medium term view - attempts at short term trading were always hampered by the spread.

I personally wouldn't touch these for a while. The trading statement did make some positive noises for Q2 - I'll keep them on my watch list and only consider getting back in if those noises turn out to be true.

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 09:34

no bounce here worth having, because:
1; spread to wide to make any money should it happen.
Next week its going to fall further unless fund managers step in, - will they buy or sell ?

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 09:22

I have written a stinking email to Mark Paver the FD who has failed to respond to any emails I sent when I was a shareholder this year. i suggest all existing holders do the same.

[grebo] 02/6/2006 09:19

Ouch. Commiserations to those who still hold. I got out on March 20th cos I felt they were fully valued and couldn't see anything positive in the outlook statement - it seemed too wooly to me, with no real prospect of future growth.

Wasn't expecting this though, and as others have said they must have known about this at the time of the results. I hope those who still hold ask some VERY awkward question at the next AGM. I hope they also ask about the drop the day before the trading statement - did the directors leak the news to their friends and family? Certainly looks suspicious.

[this_is_me] 02/6/2006 09:14

I am just relieved that I sold the last of my (for me)large holding at 290p a couple of weeks ago when I was converting a large part of my portfolio into cash. I wasn't expecting this either, just concerned that the market had topped and growth stocks were getting hammered.

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 08:34

I hope the Fund Managers absolutely slaughter this rabble. They have lied, the house broker was in the know, dreadful in my opinion..

[milesy] 02/6/2006 08:27

Recs - agree completely, the company will never make any friends in the City (which they need if they have genuine growth aspirations) if they play these tricks. There would have been sufficient evidence of the downturn at the time of the March statement and yet I don't read anything particularly cautionary in that.

[recruiter] 02/6/2006 08:19

p.s. how they can be so bullish about second half of 06 is just priceless. They said they were confident for all of 06 in results yet they knew it was going a bit wrong.

[bridggar] 02/6/2006 08:17

Oh dear....

[yorked] 02/6/2006 07:50

Talking about double whammy, through out of WNN some time ago at 312p but have since been hit by the bearish market and new placings with both LEAD and RCG, double whammies!

[beckaroo] 02/6/2006 07:42

Yes, very bad news. I thought with the world cup and every item you see having a promotion for it this company would do well this year, but it looks like it isn't to be. Its a double whammy with both sides to the company being hit as well.. Looks like some people found out yesterday with the 12p hit.

[fromtheblue] 02/6/2006 07:28

When the news from the trading update on UK subscription services starts to circulate, others in this sector will also be hit - particularly MOB I guess. Not good news at all.

[milesy] 01/6/2006 22:56

I suspect ICSTIS have a deliberate agenda here to push enforcement onto the connectivity providers to save themselves the effort of policing. As long as they have someone to point the finger at then the general public are unlikely to be concerned about who is really at fault. ICSTIS have always struck me as one of those govt quangos that tinker at the edges but do little of real substance.

Looking at ISPs as a parallel, it seems there's very little if any obligation on them to restrict/block connection to illegal/immoral websites despite the fact that they provide the connectivity service.

I suspect if the pain gets too great for WIN they'll probably find a way of mitigating the risk, perhaps by pushing more obligations onto the content providers, or just plain refusal to all but the most upstanding of customers.

Funny old world eh!

[aleman] 01/6/2006 17:19

It's no wonder they are complaining. There are several and I'm sure WNN must be getting frustrated. Will ICSTIS respond sensibly and go for the content companies or just view connectivity companies as an easy source of revenue? Can't say I am very optimistic. I think if WNN went to the papers and said ICSTIS is not effectively tackling the problem, leaving consumers, epecially kids, exposed, it could have more effect.